Hiya all,
This might seem like a stupid question to you lot.....but ive never dealt with it before....so my question is:
What is Push Email?
I've heard a few people talk about it and stuff but never really taken much notice, but im thinking it may be something that i can use, and that will be helpful to me, so any information would be great if you can please people :icon14:
Thanks :tongue:
I cant say for sure, but from what I gather rather than your phone checking for email, the email is sent to it.
This is popular because the phone doesnt have to keep using data to check for the email, just the data to recieve it when its 'pushed' to it, rather than 'pulling' it.
Im sure someone will correct me if Im wrong.
Push email is a means by which an server server can notify a device that new email has arrived. For the user, setting up push email means that emails seem to download to your device on the fly. The N95 supports MS Direct Push email using Dataviz Roadsync (and hopefully some open source applications that do the same thing).
In the Microsoft world, push email is enabled because the device creates an SSL connection to the server and just leaves it open. When a change to the user's account happens (incoming email, new contact, calendar) the server "tickles" the device, tiggering a wireless sync. Any changes are downloaded automatically and reflected on the device. It's all very Blackberry-ish, without needing a Blackberry!
MikeW wrote:.... device creates an SSL connection to the server and just leaves it open. When a change to the user's account happens (incoming email, new contact, calendar) the server "tickles" the device, tiggering a wireless sync. Any changes are downloaded automatically and reflected on the device.
And in the N95 world, very battery hungry. Active data connections just suck your battery dry. Well, seem to on my N95, as evidenced when using IM. If being on top of your email is that important, far better to use something like Profimail, which will poll your email server for changes at a user defined interval, say 30 mins. That ought to be enough for most and no permanent data connection needed.
Thanks a lot guys, i totally understand what it means now thats great.
To be totally honest then - thinking about it i sit at work on the net all day, and i have net at home when i get home so i dont really go without mail very long hehe 😉
Thanks for the replies everyone! 😃
chrsfrwll wrote:And in the N95 world, very battery hungry. Active data connections just suck your battery dry. Well, seem to on my N95, as evidenced when using IM. If being on top of your email is that important, far better to use something like Profimail, which will poll your email server for changes at a user defined interval, say 30 mins. That ought to be enough for most and no permanent data connection needed.
You can set the native email app to do this with an IMAP mailbox.
neilhoskins wrote:You can set the native email app to do this with an IMAP mailbox.
Sadly, I don't have an IMAP mailbox. From what I've read, I think I'd like one though. It seems to offer a whole lot more than POP3.
Push email is the killer app for me.
I have been using Emoze (use Google to find it) for about 10 days now - full push email and calendar / task synchronisation all in real time + specific software for N95 - absolutelly first class !!! I got a real buzz the first time I swa an email come in to my desktop and then have my N95 go 'ping' about 2 seconds later.
Works on wireless as well as GPRS plus very easy to install - couldn't recomend highly enough (plus its totall free):icon14:
Perhaps I am spoiled by the world of the Treo and palm. But in full push for ten hours, the N95 battery still lasts a full work day, from about 7am to about 9pm, without a charge during the day. That's not hateful for me, since I always charge devices before going to sleep.
Anyway, it's cool, because now I have my Exchange contacts and calendar on the phone as well!
chrsfrwll wrote:And in the N95 world, very battery hungry. Active data connections just suck your battery dry. Well, seem to on my N95, as evidenced when using IM. If being on top of your email is that important, far better to use something like Profimail, which will poll your email server for changes at a user defined interval, say 30 mins. That ought to be enough for most and no permanent data connection needed.
MikeW wrote:...But in full push for ten hours, the N95 battery still lasts a full work day, from about 7am to about 9pm, without a charge during the day.
Was that on 3G or GSM? I only ask because I can get a "day" out of my battery in GSM using full IM and Profimail polling every half hour. However, as soon as I think about 3G the battery just rolls over and dies.
can someone please confirm one thing
does gprs need to be on ALL the time for push email to work ? Or does the N95 sit in offline mode and it automatically goes on at the right time when an email arrives ?
this is whats confusing for me to understand and if gprs is on all day then that means major ��� costs
thanks
nudda wrote:can someone please confirm one thingdoes gprs need to be on ALL the time for push email to work ? Or does the N95 sit in offline mode and it automatically goes on at the right time when an email arrives ?
this is whats confusing for me to understand and if gprs is on all day then that means major ��� costs
thanks
With Emoze there is a setting to pull your email continuosly or every 5/10/15/30 minutes or once an hour. In my experience continous pull creates more traffic (as you would expect) than when scheduling for 5/10/15/30 minutes. Emoze also works over wifi so you are not forced to use GPRS/3G if wifi is available.
When useing Emoze over GPRS/3G the amount of traffic used simply for the polling is miniscule and itself doesn't appear to mount up to anything - what does create traffic is the emails themselves (email content size) which in itself can be restricted by emoze to a set number of characters per email (mine set to 300) and to ask before downloading attachments.
Big thank's!!
Great software!
I too use emoze for push (OWA) and it's great.
I did notice though, that I missed a voice call the other day even though the phone was right there on the desk next to me. The caller said later that his call went straight through to my voicemail as if I was aleady on a call when he called.
The only thing I can put it down to is that perhaps an email push event was underway when the voice-call tried to connect.
Anybody else experience this?
I was under the impression that the phone itself controls the settings for data vs voice call priority? (as in whether to let a call through if on a data connection or divert it to answerphone) it's somewhere in the settings, maybe double check it's set correctly? failing that I have no idea why it would glitch to not allow a call through or not I don't know, i've accepted calls while i've been actively downloading webpages etc (not just viewing a downloaded page) so it's quite puzzling!
Im using Nokias own Mail for Exchange for e-mail push. Ive been forced to put on a 30 minute poll as it just wipes out the battery on "always on"
Unplugged wrote:Ive been forced to put on a 30 minute poll as it just wipes out the battery on "always on"
Which sort of negates any advantage push email has over something like Profimail, which can poll your mailbox at any preset user defined time interval (30 mins in my case)
Well yes but it still has exchange sync whic is good even if push e-mail is not on. You can set the sync time as well not a custom value but still many options both for peak and offpeak