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TomTom and support of Nokia's internal GPS

9 replies · 3,720 views · Started 02 October 2007

Hi,

I'm a software engineer and have got a colleague at work, whose friend works in TomTom company. According to him, TomTom doesn't plan currently to support internal GPS. Allegedly, the protocol to handle Nokia's GPS is not standard, but rather complicated. The effort they would have to put into, is not worth to treat this issue as a high priority task at the moment.

That's not optimistic news, but I wanted to share with you, so that you were not disappointed when the new version of TomTom has been released.
However, this is information from the second hand, so I might be wrong.

Any other information to this topic are welcome.

Greatings 😉.

Could be true, might not be. But either way, many others have managed to do it fine.

Viewranger

Navigon

Route66

Navicore

Wayfinder

And now Garmin.

So if all these can do it, theres absoloutly no reason tomtom cant, even if it is complicated!

However I dont think it is, as viewranger were one of the first to have it working, and they are a very small (but bloody brilliant) company.

Sounds to me more like sour grapes on TomTom's part since the big announcement that Nokia is buying up NavTeq.
Nokia does command the lion's share of the cell phone market, so this arrogant attitude is only going to cost TomTom money in the long run and won't hurt Nokia at all.
Navigating Europe without TomTom on my N95 is like going to war without the French.

Agree, it does smack of sour grapes, in light of the recent purchase by Nokia. Too difficult to do and yet, as mentioned above, Viewranger (brilliant software and company - now that's customer support) were able to implement support of the internal GPS in April! (just checked my email when they mailed me a copy for my N95). Oh, and all the other GPS software available that have managed it.

Well Im sorry to say that I was waiting for tomtom to come out for my phone. Its a sad fact that dispite trying 4 other bits of software, my TT5 on my PDA can do a better job even though its badly outdated.

If navigon would listen to its users and impliment changes, they would easily have the best one on the market for symbian.

Ho hum, watch out for a garmin review then when the new version comes out 🙄

However, I cant beleive a large company would be petty and cut its nose off to spite its face. Ive looked on very many forums concerning TT on the N95, and you wouldnt beleive how many people keep emailing them about it.

I think this complicated thing is bollocks (not saying your mates lying, but it might be a poor excuse by TT), I cant see a big company like that - a leading satnav one to boot - being stopped by something other smaller companies have done no problem.

oi iball, some of us are french here so be nice 😉

I'm well interested to see what will come out from Nokia's aquisition of NavTeq, the future looks promissing.

IF the TT statement is true, sounds like typical market leader arrogance... Lets hope it isnt...

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By "not standard", they probably mean it doesn't deliver raw NMEA strings as you get when connecting via bluetooth directly, which is true.

The API is very easy to use though. Far simpler than parsing the strings, in my opinion. In fact, I believe that someone wrote a python module that converts the callbacks received from the Location API in to NMEA strings.

As mentioned above, TomTom are just being lazy, or have other reasons (I guess that the rampant piracy of R66 that seems to be going on isn't helping).

Just wondering ...

Is there something like "GPS Router" ? 😊

It sit in the system, reading the internal GPS data from the N95 and then feed it to the TomTom by simulating as "external" GPS port ...

I remembered there is app like this for PPC.

This could be done theoritically, because in the post above, someone is able to read the data using Python.

UPDATE:

Search "gpsgate" in Google ...

I am sure it will be used by N95 and TomTom 6 !

andreas1 wrote:Just wondering ...

Is there something like "GPS Router" ? 😊

It sit in the system, reading the internal GPS data from the N95 and then feed it to the TomTom by simulating as "external" GPS port ...

Once upon a time there was a company called GPS Midlands...
I won't say any more, just do a search on the ASS forums for the thread.

Sadly TomTom's main business is selling seperate devices and the resources its put towards Nokia phone is consequently small. This is only being made worse by Nokia Maps. There's other competitors too. Route 66 does a reasonable job for me and I understand Naicore is good too.