Nokia are planning iphone

Has been mentioned before, and theres a video knocking about somewhere. However, while it is from nokia, it doesnt look real as theres a fair few tell tale signs in the video. I should imagine its probably under development.

What will happen is nokia will make one, and the iphone lot will knock it because its too complicated.

Its now my opinion that the iphone has such a good interface at the expense of functions - things like MMS, proper bluetooth, video etc would have all added to the menus.

Personally Id prefer having to click, press etc more times and have a greater choice, rather than a crippled phone.

As far as I can see the Iphone is the equivalent to cut down UIQ device without the expandability but gaining some fancy graphic bits for the UI and the gesture navigation. I'd not be surprised if a later SE device incorporates some of the gesture stuff in it, it's the only good thing with the Iphone.

Forget the iPhone, it is just a gimick for estate agents with the mazda MX5's etc.

Functionally the N95 is unrivalled and will continue to be for some time to come.
Touch screen is not great, i mean pocket PC's have had them for years and they have uses but i would rather have a smudge free screen with a BT keyboard or even just alpha-numeric keys.
The accelerometer in the device opens doors for Sony ericsson like shake/tilt control for tracks and even using it to scroll through images etc.
It can also be used for Wii type gaming etc.

bartmanekul wrote:Its now my opinion that the iphone has such a good interface at the expense of functions - things like MMS, proper bluetooth, video etc would have all added to the menus.

That's pretty much the way that Apple always work; compared to other MP3 players, the iPod has few features: lots of other players can natively record audio, and a number offer FM radio, etc. It doesn't support lots of different standards either, or let you freely transfer your music using the mass storage protocol. However, people like the iPod because it does one thing simply and intuitively - it plays music.

Similarly, people like the iPhone because if what you want is an iPod plus a fairly basic phone with an easy-to-use interface, then it's fine; lots of people never transfer files by Bluetooth anyway. It's not a power user solution, however, and its main failing is Apple's hyperactive PR machine making it out to be the Platonic ideal of phones. It's not; it's built for an entertainment-heavy but ultimately non-demanding market, and it's therefore not for everyone. The N95, on the other hand, is an ultra-convergence device designed for people who want to do everything with a pocketable phone and don't mind dealing with a certain degree of complexity to get it.

Youve hit the nail bang on the head.

Most of us on here are phone geeks, lets face it, we contribute to a web forum talking about our handsets. iPhone people arnt geeks. Its a re-run of the Mac vs PC debate all over again...Macs are a better product, made for a non tech market and PCs are ideal for the techie tinkerers. Horses for courses.

The n95 vs iphone wil be a microcosm of that...

First phone with S60 touch it's suppose to come next year.
In this article you can have some interesting reading regarding the "Nokia iPhone".

Mithent, your pretty much dead on, although I do think apple went too far in crippling it.

While I appriciate its easy to use and simplified, I feel the loss of MMS was a HUGE mistake, and video a lesser one. If its going to be called anything, it would be an entertainment device (as you said), and certainly not a smartphone.

If it was marketed for what it was - a very simple phone with an ipod tacked on - I doubt it would get so much grief.

bartmanekul wrote:If it was marketed for what it was - a very simple phone with an ipod tacked on - I doubt it would get so much grief.

Yeah, I agree - unfortunately it's been incorrectly positioned as a high-end smartphone rather than what it actually is. They have announced an SDK for the new year.. might be interesting to see how it evolves once that's available, and how much freedom Apple let developers have. Considering their previous plan was 'none', I can't imagine that they'll completely open up the OS to them or anything..

A friend remarked to me today that in comparision, microsoft was open source compared to apple, amusingly true as far as phones are concerned.