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Does anyone know of any predictive text enhancements?

10 replies · 4,985 views · Started 07 November 2007

I have an issue with the predictive text on the N95. When using it, I sometimes get multiple choices for words that I can scroll through by using the * key. However, the predictive text doesn't seem to learn from the choices I make during this scrolling. For example, if I'm given a specific 3-word choice and I select the third word that I scroll to, the predictive text never seems to remember the word I choose, and next time I want to enter the same word, the same 3-item choice comes up with my chosen word always remaining third in the list.

I recall that the predictive text on my older, 20-key Blackberry didn't work this way. If I had to scroll through several words and chose, say, the third one, the next time I was faced with the same 3-item option, the word I previously chose became the one that showed up first.

Is there a way to configure the N95 predictive text to operate in this manner? Or perhaps is there a 3rd-party app that offers this capability?

Thanks in advance.
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... and I have another issue with predictive text, as well:

As I'm building a long word, I sometimes have to scroll to a given letter combination for the partial word that I have entered so far. Then, if I hit another letter, sometimes the predictive algorithm undoes the selection I made for the previous portion of the word, and it puts me back to the letter combination that it thinks I should be typing. I fix this by scrolling back to the letter combination that I want, but if I then add another letter, I get kicked back to the old, rejected entry again. When this occurs, it continues until I have entered the entire word.

I believe that the predictive text processing should be smart enough to know that once I select a certain letter combination while building a word, that's the combination that should be kept as the rest of the word is being constructed, because, obviously, it's the letter combination that I chose.

Again, when I used predictive text on my Blackberry, it did indeed remember partial words in this exact manner.

So ... again I'm wondering if there is any way to get the N95's predictive text algorithm to start working this way.

Thanks again, in advance.
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HippoMan wrote:However, the predictive text doesn't seem to learn from the choices I make during this scrolling. For example, if I'm given a specific 3-word choice and I select the third word that I scroll to, the predictive text never seems to remember the word I choose, and next time I want to enter the same word, the same 3-item choice comes up with my chosen word always remaining third in the list.

Create a new message, repeat the process you describe several times using the same word separated by a space and eventually (usually 3 or 4 attempts) it will remember the word you want first time.

HippoMan wrote:As I'm building a long word, I sometimes have to scroll to a given letter combination for the partial word that I have entered so far. Then, if I hit another letter, sometimes the predictive algorithm undoes the selection I made for the previous portion of the word, and it puts me back to the letter combination that it thinks I should be typing. I fix this by scrolling back to the letter combination that I want, but if I then add another letter, I get kicked back to the old, rejected entry again. When this occurs, it continues until I have entered the entire word.

Firstly, you can get the phone to 'fix' what you have typed so far by pressing the right keypad cursor (so the word is no longer underlined). It will then continue as if it was a new word (although no space has been inserted).
But the best thing in this case is to enter the entire word into your dictionary, it will then remember it.

Both of these are good tips. Thank you very much.
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HippoMan wrote:

As I'm building a long word, I sometimes have to scroll to a given letter combination for the partial word that I have entered so far.

But there's no need to do this at all, just keep typing the keys for the word you want. Only when you get to the end, if it's not now showing the word you want, do you need to scroll through the options. If the word is not one of the options, enter it through the 'spell' option, and it should be remembered for the future.

Yes, that'll work. I'm used to the way I was using predictive text on my old Blackberry, and I didn't think of this option.

Thanks.
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AndyM wrote:But there's no need to do this at all, just keep typing the keys for the word you want. Only when you get to the end, if it's not now showing the word you want, do you need to scroll through the options. If the word is not one of the options, enter it through the 'spell' option, and it should be remembered for the future.

It suprises me how many people don't realise this about predictive text. Good post.

I always tell people who are new to it (my parents for example) to just look at the keypad and ignore the screen until they have finished typing the word

I do prefer to construct words I don't need frequently as short strings, such as 'allaboutsymbian.com' by typing 'all', right, 'about', right 'symbian.' right, 'com'. If it's something that I'm likely to need often then using the Spell option is obviously better though.

3Shirts wrote:It suprises me how many people don't realise this about predictive text. Good post.

I always tell people who are new to it (my parents for example) to just look at the keypad and ignore the screen until they have finished typing the word

Well, the reason that I didn't "know" about how predictive text works under the N95 is that it's different and, IMHO, less convenient than the manner in which predictive text works under the 20-key Blackberry devices that I and no doubt many other users are already familiar with.

But now, I'm more aware of the differences between these two predictive text methods, and I appreciate the input from all of you who have given such useful and helpful explanations here.
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Mithent wrote:I do prefer to construct words I don't need frequently as short strings, such as 'allaboutsymbian.com' by typing 'all', right, 'about', right 'symbian.' right, 'com'. If it's something that I'm likely to need often then using the Spell option is obviously better though.
Well, I have used the Spell option often, and still, the value that I enter there doesn't normally end up being the first one offered to me, the next time I try to enter the same word. It's as if this option causes the new spelling to be entered into the dictionary without it being given any kind of priority.

It seems to me that once a new word is manually entered into the dictionary, the software should take into consideration the fact that since user specifically entered this word, it should be treated as being a preferred choice. At least something like that is what appears to be happening on the Blackberry 20-key devices that I'm familiar with, and it seems to result in more "hits" the first time around when I'm typing.

At worst, it would be nice if some day, these kinds of prioritizing rules could be managed via some sort of user-settable options. In the mean time, I'm happy to use the current N95 predictive text methodologies, now that I understand them better.

Thanks again to all.
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There's a way of making the phone choose the 'right' word first time by changing the order in which is displays them. I can't quite remember how to do it right now and I don't have the phone with me to try it out but if you do a search on this forum it's there somewhere.