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how long till N95 8gb outdated too

37 replies · 8,946 views · Started 10 November 2007

I'm one of those lucky people in life. i finally get a N95 for a good price the day before the N95 8gb is announced!
So if i jump in and get the 8gb version, does anybody know how long it will be before an EVEN BETTER N95 will be released?

Too be honest i only want the newer model for the extra RAM

Who knows? Nothing has been announced yet (other than the S60 Touch platform, and that would be quite different). My guess is that they won't update the N95 any more after the 8GB, but Nokia will probably release a new high-end phone within a year or so; it doesn't do to have people finishing contracts and still being happy with their old phone!

riverboat wrote:I'm one of those lucky people in life. i finally get a N95 for a good price the day before the N95 8gb is announced!
So if i jump in and get the 8gb version, does anybody know how long it will be before an EVEN BETTER N95 will be released?

Too be honest i only want the newer model for the extra RAM

So what phone became outdated then?
I would like to bet my N95 will do everthing the N95 8GB will do and more (accept micro SD cards for one).
I am waiting for the glut of cheap N95s from those who have 'upgraded'.
Should be able to bag a few bargains.

Technology keeps moving on.

If you sit on the fence and wait a few months for the next model you will always be waiting.

Typically a new handset comes out every 6 months or so.

Unplugged is right ....

You have to jump in at some time with technology purchases... whether its a phone or PC or BIG screen TV.

ROT:
Buy the best you can afford at the time, depreciate it against your income tax as aggresively as possible and when you can afford it but buy the next version.

@pa49

As for your comment of

"I would like to bet my N95 will do everthing the N95 8GB will do and more (accept micro SD cards for one)."

Just how much money are you looking to give me sorry meant lose?

How ever big a memory card you buy you can't install another 64mb of Ram,

You cannot make you screen larger and brighter or protected by a hard layer,

You can't increase the size of your battery by about 25%.

As yet no one knows if you may get demand paging or not but many think it is unlikely.

Is that enough things the new 8GB does that your N95 can't, please send any monies you would of lost to a Charity of your choice.

Marc

Well, the N82 is just round the corner, most the stats make it look like a successor to the N95.

bartmanekul wrote:Well, the N82 is just round the corner, most the stats make it look like a successor to the N95.

do you have any links to information about the n82 ? Such as specs and launch dates in US and UK ?

thanks

interesting , ive heard the n82 does not have a 3.5mm plug-in for headpones and WLAN.

pooooo

I believe it to have both! I'm looking forward to this handset. I'm due an upgrade now but this is the only worthy successor to the N73.

Check out the photos and mini review

symbian-freak.com/news/007/11/nokia_n82_hands_on.htm

Dan

p.s put in www before symbian. won't let me post links until ive made 10 posts.

Or, you could just click on the link I gave above, which will take you to exactly the same place 😉

bartmanekul wrote:Well, the N82 is just round the corner, most the stats make it look like a successor to the N95.

The N82 doesn't seem to do anything the N95 doesn't. Or am I missing something?

Seeing as the N95 was announced in about Sep last year and wasn't available in the UK until about March, I don't expect a new model (N97?) to be available until at least July next year.

Full specs are not out yet, but basically....

Xenon flash.

Autorotate (on, not as third party).

And thats it. But possibility of a faster processor, and maybe better batterytime while retaining the lens cover (which it has) and also 128 memory.

I imagine theres more too, but that will only be revealed when the specs are given out.

bartmanekul wrote:Full specs are not out yet, but basically....

Xenon flash.

Autorotate (on, not as third party).

And thats it. But possibility of a faster processor, and maybe better batterytime while retaining the lens cover (which it has) and also 128 memory.

I imagine theres more too, but that will only be revealed when the specs are given out.

Thanks. But, thinking of the leap from the N80 to the N95, I would expect more a year on from the N95 release. I was hoping autorotate might come in to the N95 with a firmware revision.

Well as its N8X, Id have thought its not meant to be an upgrade for the N95. However, given the specs it certainly looks that way.

If thats the case, then I wonder what the next N9X is set for?

andykn wrote:Thanks. But, thinking of the leap from the N80 to the N95, I would expect more a year on from the N95 release. I was hoping autorotate might come in to the N95 with a firmware revision.

Have you seen this though: http://bysamir.fr/rotateme/

This is a freeware app which is on the way to do autorotate on the N95.

Also, the N95 is pretty advanced so I wouldn't necessarily expect a leap like the N80 to the N95 in the same time frame

Don't Nokia normally reveal a new flagship phone around spring time? Like with the N80 then the N95?

Unfortunately the N82 seems to have caught the 'dinky keys' disease from some Sony Ericsson phones.. I'm not sure why people think it's a good idea.

Dogmann wrote:@pa49

As for your comment of

"I would like to bet my N95 will do everthing the N95 8GB will do and more (accept micro SD cards for one)."

Just how much money are you looking to give me sorry meant lose?

How ever big a memory card you buy you can't install another 64mb of Ram,

You cannot make you screen larger and brighter or protected by a hard layer,

You can't increase the size of your battery by about 25%.

As yet no one knows if you may get demand paging or not but many think it is unlikely.

Is that enough things the new 8GB does that your N95 can't, please send any monies you would of lost to a Charity of your choice.

Marc

OK, I'll bite on this one.
Remember I said my classic will DO everything and more.
I'm reckoning on about �100 a pop.
RAM? Don't need any more. My phone is stable and doesn't reset or freeze or crash.
Larger and brighter and hard covered display doesn't make the phone do anything more.
Battery capacity incresed by 25%? Doesn't make it do more only the same stuff for longer without charging and I operate my phone on the existing battery without any hardship.
Demand Paging? Again doesn't result in the phone doing more. Only makes it subjectively quicker and my phone's plenty quick already.
The changes that brought about the 8Gb version are as a result of users who have minimal knowledge of how to utilise what is a complex and highly developed communications device. The changes are an attempt to address the operating shortcomings of many users who really would have been better off sticking to less complex platfoms.
The technology is too much for them to handle.😉

I reckon its a personal thing.

If I was looking at getting an N95, Id be stuck between the 2.

The 8GB has the advantage of the battery and memory (the larger screen doesnt bother me), but the HUGE disadvantages of no lens cover and no expandable memory.

However it seems the N82 might be the answer to both of those, but Im unsure about the batterylife yet.

And Mithent, too damn true. I do *not* like those keys.

pa49 wrote:OK, I'll bite on this one.
Remember I said my classic will DO everything and more.
I'm reckoning on about �100 a pop.
RAM? Don't need any more. My phone is stable and doesn't reset or freeze or crash.
Larger and brighter and hard covered display doesn't make the phone do anything more.
Battery capacity incresed by 25%? Doesn't make it do more only the same stuff for longer without charging and I operate my phone on the existing battery without any hardship.
Demand Paging? Again doesn't result in the phone doing more. Only makes it subjectively quicker and my phone's plenty quick already.
The changes that brought about the 8Gb version are as a result of users who have minimal knowledge of how to utilise what is a complex and highly developed communications device. The changes are an attempt to address the operating shortcomings of many users who really would have been better off sticking to less complex platfoms.
The technology is too much for them to handle.😉

Just because you operate your phone on the existing battery without hardship doesn't mean that everyone else has the same usage pattern/charge opportunities.

And can you run the camera and GPS at the same time? The fact that I know you can't on the N95-1 shows that I must have wanted to at some time.

Not having a go, or taking sides here but I just tried the GPS and camera together on my N95-1 and it seemed fine (with a couple of other apps like rotateme also running)

Well, as the original poster of this thread, my point of view is i don't need to have the very latest phone, i'm quite happy to wait around for a second hand one. But I am dissapointed by always getting memory warnings. I have some great applications on my phone and think that the camera quality is also very good.

I want more ram which suggests an N95 8g, but i also think a lens cover is very important, which points to an N82.

I don't understand what causes some people to have such a RAM problem. I am a VERY heavy user of my N95 and I play games and browse the net on the train every day. I use it for photos and GPS when I go walking (most weekends) and I probably only restart it once a week. I have to keep it charged but I never see program crashes and only get 'out of memory' errors on very graphic heavy websites. I do use Opera Mobile for browsing so maybe that helps.
Of course it'd be nice if it was faster but I don't see the amount of ram it has as causing me any problems

I guess it boils down to how people actually use their phones;

I've gone 36 hours on my phones with still about 15-20% battery life left. This is with about 2 hours of listening to music, about an hours of Wi-Fi for file transfers and some GPS use.

I have a constant 80mb free RAM and have RotateMe installed but only use it to re-orient the screen (I discovered it eats up a lot of fuel to keep it running).

I've an N95-3 and am waiting for the 8gb microsd cards to become more practically available so I can upgrade my storage space 😊

3Shirts wrote:I have to keep it charged but I never see program crashes and only get 'out of memory' errors on very graphic heavy websites. I do use Opera Mobile for browsing so maybe that helps.

That probably helps, considering Web is the worst offender. I don't get any programs crashing though - the only program problem I've had is actually when I tried to open a large text file in Opera Mini.

It's more of a nuisance than anything else. Web opens a second window, but the first one immediately closes due to memory and you lose it. You try to open a PDF from the Internet, but Web tries to launch Acrobat Reader and it runs out of memory trying to do both at once. Or you wanted to keep another program running in the background, but it's closed whenever you start anything else.

3Shirts wrote:Not having a go, or taking sides here but I just tried the GPS and camera together on my N95-1 and it seemed fine (with a couple of other apps like rotateme also running)

Interesting. I don't have much installed on my N95-1 and certainly no startup stuff but I've tried to open one of the camera or GPS whilst the other is running a few times and the other always exits. I'm sure I've seen other people complaining of this too - I just assumed that it was a limitation of the phone's RAM.

Have you got one of the newer Maps applications (1.1 or 1.2) running?

Well I cannot have Maps and Camera running at the same time on my N95-1. If Maps is running and I start Camera, Maps just shuts down. ALso tried it with Navicore as well, with the same result (except Camera won't start and Navicore quits).

3Shirts, you must have a great phone. No keypad bug, no memory probs, no restarts. My first N95 was like that. Shame I lost it.