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I don't quite understand your explanation, and I don't know which posts you are referring, but here's what I see as difference between freeware and shareware:

Freeware: copyrighted software that can be distributed freely. Using freeware does not require paying any money to the author.

Shareware: copyrighted software that can be distributed freely, but requires usually a registration fee.

And as a bonus: public domain software: author has released piece of software (usually source code) to public domain, that is: anybody can use, modify and even claim futher copyright of that software or derivative work.

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That's bollocks.

Shareware and Freeware are convenient labels placed on certain bits of software to convey the rough nature of the Licence Agreement that you agree to when you use the application.

Just because one interpretation fits one piece of software, doesn't mean it carries over to all other pieces. Just because the AAS Forum doesn't allow the hosting of (for example) Vexed - which is clearly a freeware app - doesn't mean that the licence *dis*allows it. FOr example My-Symbian host it on their server, and don't use FreEPOC's/ This is allowed, even though Michal Jerez never explicitly asked.

Hold on, that's re-distribution.. so there goes one plank of your arguement.

The other plank, that shareware can be freely passed around and hosted and linked in its demo form is complete bollocks as well. If the author says you must come here to download, then just because it's labelled shareware doesn't mean you can do something explicitly against the authors instructions.

Summary: It depeneds on the software licence that comes with the app, not the arbitary label placed on it.

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[quote="Zipper"]
If you read the above posts it describes the exact details between the two. You might find it helpfull.[/quote]

Yes, good idea Zipper. Read them. I write freeware applications. I allow re-distribution. Therefore you standing up and saying because something is labelled freeware it is not to be re-distributed is wrong!

We can't both be right.

And as you can legally re-distribute my applications...

Please stop passing around incorrect information and confusion without quoting concrete examples, not just "this is true and state an incorrect 'fact.' "

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[quote="simeonbubblegum"]
Freeware: copyrighted software that can be distributed freely. Using freeware does not require paying any money to the author.

Shareware: copyrighted software that can be distributed freely, but requires usually a registration fee.
[/quote]

Here's the difference stated above. None of your misleading statements about distribution, re-distribution or whatever because of the 'label' placed on the method of rewarding the author. The difference between the 'label' is one of re-imbursement to the author - nothing more, nothing less. If you can't come up with a legal definition of freeware and shareware that fits your silly arguement about what can and can;t be emailed on to your mates, please don't just say read it again. I did. You're still wrong!

As far as I am concerned (and given I admin this site this is site policy) Simon in his defintion is correct. Freeware or shareware are about pricing of an application.

Redistribution of freeware and shareware is normally considered OK. You can have a program that costs nothing but is such that it has limits to dsitribution. In my opinion this is a commerical program.

I think Ewan was exactly in what he said what is important is the license with a program. Shareware and freeware (and postcardware etc. etc) are handy descriptive terms that have been around a long time and are used to indicate what the payment is (free, in kind, money). Redistribution is another issue.

Rafe

p.s. If people dont agree thats there perogative, but this is where the site stands.

[quote="Ewan-FreEPOC"][quote="simeonbubblegum"]
Freeware: copyrighted software that can be distributed freely. Using freeware does not require paying any money to the author.

Shareware: copyrighted software that can be distributed freely, but requires usually a registration fee.
[/quote]

Here's the difference stated above. None of your misleading statements about distribution, re-distribution or whatever because of the 'label' placed on the method of rewarding the author. The difference between the 'label' is one of re-imbursement to the author - nothing more, nothing less. If you can't come up with a legal definition of freeware and shareware that fits your silly arguement about what can and can;t be emailed on to your mates, please don't just say read it again. I did. You're still wrong![/quote]

I'm finding your posts, Firstly, insulting, secondly, you will not listen to reason, thirdly, you personally insult myself, forth, You speak in a manor which denotes a haughty attitude. As a mod, I do not think you ought to speak in this fashon and manor, Please refrain from posting like this in the future, And try to set a good example to everyone. Thank you.

Regards,
Me

I moved this out of the 7650 - Rafe has a fair idea of how seething I am on this whole issue. If I replied, I'd just get medievil on his ass.

Rafe, I think another email is needed, with myself and the other Senior Admins visibly cc'd. At this point I'm really in the mood to ban him.

already done