Part of the problem seems to be with the backup not just backing up what you tell it to.
Tell it to back up messages and it does a "Phone Specific" backup to which when restored seems to change settings. Theres no real reliable way of backing up messages though like there are contacts 😞 you can copy messages to the memory card but not back again.
Ok, I have done a few more tests.
If I restore everything except "settings", the alarm is still OK. I then decided to tick the settings option also, and, not only does the bootup time go back to normal (well, slow should I say... normal for V12, slow for V20), the alarm is back to the bug. So the last thing that could be causing this for those that haven't done a restore is an application that gets in the way during the semi-reboot, and I can think of only one... best taskman, or possibly a theme gets in the road a bit?
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Well I noticed that if I restored just the messages the phone did slow slightly. I would rather not restore backups but without a way on the handset of moving messages back from the memory card to the phone I dont see any other way of doing it 😞
tonymy01 wrote:Ok, I have done a few more tests.
If I restore everything except "settings", the alarm is still OK. I then decided to tick the settings option also, and, not only does the bootup time go back to normal (well, slow should I say... normal for V12, slow for V20), the alarm is back to the bug. So the last thing that could be causing this for those that haven't done a restore is an application that gets in the way during the semi-reboot, and I can think of only one... best taskman, or possibly a theme gets in the road a bit?
Regards
Pheonix SZ wrote:Not quite with you.
Are you saying that it's restoring settings that causes the bug ?
tonymy01 wrote:Yes. But settings=applications too (when I didn't restore settings, but had every other option ticked, the phone didn't have any of my installed apps apart from the ones I had already installed on the card rather than internal).
So given some have this bug and claim they haven't done a restore, I can only imagine it is because of an installed application perhaps (it isn't Best Taskman btw, I have removed that and it hasn't helped).
Regards
This is why I don't restore anything from a backup. I used to, but then I'd find some little bugs that were still present, when other people were saying they were fixed after moving up a firmware.
So now all I do is resync from Outlook using PC Suite and install my software again.
Eureka Eureka! I have found the problem. I noticed when I restored the virgin settings from V20, that there were still a few phone based applications installed from my V12 settings restore (that I tried just to see the results after a virgin V20 was working fine). I removed application by application (a couple at a time), set the alarm clock, powered down and waited.
Finally!! This bugger is responsible: DRM Common Solutions v3.02 by Psiloc... whatever the heck this is. Once removed, the bootup times are good, and the alarm clock works as it is supposed to.
Now, what is this? Well this website doesn't give too many hints http://www.psiloc.com/en/Products_and_Services/Solutions/1101,DRM_Common_Solutions . Obviously one application I have installed in the past put this in. So now my phone is back to normal, all settings intact (well, most. Bluetooth keys seem to need reentering, not really a drama), and alarm clock working as it should. The only thing I am missing is the new menu layout (I liked that layout, it seems to get wiped by the settings restore unfortunately). But, it is only a folder or two and a bit of a shuffle to get it looking like the V20 layout, I can live with the V<20 layout I suppose 😉
My main gripe about the restoration process is that I really want to maintain the call log, landmarks, many app settings etc, and this just isn't possible without doing a restoration. I guess the main issue is if any low level apps like the task manager or apparently this DRM app aren't compatible with the new f/w version, then you end up with the dramas we have been having!
Regards
Good work.
Is there no way of saving logs and landmarks other than by PCS Backup ?
And incidentally, you don't have to settle for the restored folder layout.
Take a peek at hack of the week 😉
http://www.fwrnando.com/blog/?p=94
tonymy01 wrote:Finally!! This bugger is responsible: DRM Common Solutions v3.02 by Psiloc... whatever the heck this is.
Did you try their IR remote control? The DRM is their method of ensuring their program has been correctly licenced and installed on only one phone, and is the biggest PITA there ever was. It completely screws up load up times (and as you've found, the Alarm clock) and was instantly removed (along with their other software) when I found out how offensive it is.
chrsfrwll wrote:Did you try their IR remote control? The DRM is their method of ensuring their program has been correctly licenced and installed on only one phone, and is the biggest PITA there ever was. It completely screws up load up times (and as you've found, the Alarm clock) and was instantly removed (along with their other software) when I found out how offensive it is.
I had the problem, did the hard format with the memory card out of the phone (all my applications were stored on the phone memory) and it's now resolved. Cheers tonymy01.
v 20.0.015
RM159
Nokia N95 01.01
edit: since you discovered the problem with Psiloc/DRM common solutions I reinstalled Psilock's IR Remote program. Suprise suprise my alarm has now stopped working. However, having remover the application it's still not working. Any ideas? This is driving me nuts!
It shouldn't be settings restoration, I didn't restore settings but I had the bug, just until now.
Yes, I had irRemote and therefore, DRM solutions crap. I've uninstalled DRM solutions, tried, and nothing was changed. Then I've plugged my phone to the computer on data transfer mode. Deleted all the remnants of DRM solutions (and some other programs from previous firmware), set the alarm, turned off, and it worked! Now my N95 works normally. The problem was application remnants in memory card, at least for me.
can16358p wrote:It shouldn't be settings restoration, I didn't restore settings but I had the bug, just until now.Yes, I had irRemote and therefore, DRM solutions crap. I've uninstalled DRM solutions, tried, and nothing was changed. Then I've plugged my phone to the computer on data transfer mode. Deleted all the remnants of DRM solutions (and some other programs from previous firmware), set the alarm, turned off, and it worked! Now my N95 works normally. The problem was application remnants in memory card, at least for me.
Ditto. I removed IR Remote and as above still had the proble. Found DRM Solutions in Applications Manager, deleted it and all now works. Impressive work Tony.
Funny thing is that DRM crap doesn't work anyway, all their software gets cracked within hours of release!
Yep, just to clarify, you go to the application manager to remove that DRM garbage, and bootup times go from about 30seconds before, to about 10seconds after, and the alarm clock works when booting up from standby/power off as it is meant to. Removing the Psiloc application itself (world clock, world traveller, whatever) seems like it doesn't remove the DRM shite that they install!! Very bad form Psiloc, leaving that pile of excrement in our phone applications list buggering up the core functions of the phone!
So essentially I am back to running from a restored V12 backup... see, my argument about the restoration still holds, it doesn't stuff the phone LOL 😊 (only took me all day fiddling to eventually track down the culprit restored programme).
Regards