Moneygram? Avoid them then. If they won't take a credit card or paypal (something that protects you) then don't bother.
don't buy phones from ebay
I really have no idea how they could sell them so cheap... maybe they have a rebate offer going? who knows..... but I'm glad you're getting one either way, you'll love it.
hellscream wrote:That's just it.I haven't bought it yet.And it's not off ebay.It's someone in my area selling it.And it's already unlocked.This is why I'm asking for advice.lol
You have to ask yourself, why are they selling it so cheap?
If it is stolen then they are a thief too. If its a fake they are a thief too. So you're going to walk up to a thief with 450 bucks on you and not expect him to rob you too? You must like living dangerously.
Reminds me of one of my dumber acquaintances who bought a knocked off car stereo from a mate down the pub and had it nicked from outside his house two nights later. I wonder who by?
In the UK any stolen phone has its IMEI number blocked on every UK network, do the US not do the same?
And of course if, in the course of falling off the back of that lorry the driver accidentally got shot too (not an unusual occurence in Texas, I believe) you could get caught up in a Murder enquiry. its way too easy to trace the IMEI straight back to you.
So as not to seem completely unhelpful, the two fakes I am aware of either have a touch screen or, when you press *#0000# come up with the wrong model number. A genuine N95 8GB should show RM-320 on the third line.
Don't forget it won't have US 3G frequencies.
Back to nanny mode, the latest techniology is how fraudsters sucker in the marks. Does this seller have a PS3 too perchance? Does the advert look like this:
Don't pay by Western Union.
hellscream wrote:Yeah,it just may be too good to be true.It's a business and I have the physical address.But they want me to send a money order or money gram.And that doesn't sound safe or smart!They say that they have a 30 day money back return policy,but how can I be sure?They would have to ship it to me.So I think that I'm gonna have to pass.Which sucks!But I already have another seller lined up for Saturday.He's selling one for $670 but I can talk him down to $650.Which is still a good deal.And I'm gonna meet this guy in person.But it would have been nice to get one for $450.Oh well.I'm still going to get one either way!lol.It's the device I wanted before I got my Sprint Touch.I thought that it was too expensive,but I'm one of those buy a new device often kinda guys.lol.But I think that the N95 8gb could change that.I mean,it does everything!!So thank you for all the advice.But how could that place be selling them for so cheap?
Me again, Money order or Money gram means they aren't selling N95s, they are just collecting money from mugs with a fake ad. Google the address.
Can you show us the link?
Trust me,I'm no moron.As soon as I saw money order/money gram I didn't reply to their e-mail.This is there physical address and the e-mail that they used.Also the link:
Our Address is:
Quality Computer Supplies
5632 Van Nuys Blvd.
Suite 133
Van Nuys, CA 91401
<[email protected]>
http://dallas.craigslist.org/ele/500571452.html
Also,everybody is saying that it is better to go with the N95-1 over the N95 8gb.It would be cheaper.But would it be smarter being that the new firmware update is such an improvement?I can get one anywhere from $450 to $540.Which is quite a bit cheaper.If it really is running that much better now,then why not?Does it ever get the memory errors anymore?Like I said,I'm getting one either way.But it's always nice to save money.TIA
hellscream wrote:Yeah,it just may be too good to be true.It's a business and I have the physical address.But they want me to send a money order or money gram.And that doesn't sound safe or smart!They say that they have a 30 day money back return policy,but how can I be sure?They would have to ship it to me.So I think that I'm gonna have to pass.Which sucks!But I already have another seller lined up for Saturday.He's selling one for $670 but I can talk him down to $650.Which is still a good deal.And I'm gonna meet this guy in person.But it would have been nice to get one for $450.Oh well.I'm still going to get one either way!lol.It's the device I wanted before I got my Sprint Touch.I thought that it was too expensive,but I'm one of those buy a new device often kinda guys.lol.But I think that the N95 8gb could change that.I mean,it does everything!!So thank you for all the advice.But how could that place be selling them for so cheap?
By not selling them at all.
It's just a scam - Moneygram guarantees it.
hellscream wrote:Trust me,I'm no moron.As soon as I saw money order/money gram I didn't reply to their e-mail.This is there physical address and the e-mail that they used.Also the link:Our Address is:
Quality Computer Supplies
5632 Van Nuys Blvd.
Suite 133
Van Nuys, CA 91401<[email protected]>
http://dallas.craigslist.org/ele/500571452.htmlAlso,everybody is saying that it is better to go with the N95-1 over the N95 8gb.It would be cheaper.But would it be smarter being that the new firmware update is such an improvement?I can get one anywhere from $450 to $540.Which is quite a bit cheaper.If it really is running that much better now,then why not?Does it ever get the memory errors anymore?Like I said,I'm getting one either way.But it's always nice to save money.TIA
Yes, the 95-1 v20 update is such an improvement.
I don't use the native web browser, but I can run umpteen proggies and they now all stay in memory.
I'd have gone for the 95-3, in your boots - except that there's no v.20 update available for it yet.
That said, there's no way I'd ever get either while there's a 95-8 option ... however expensive.
hellscream wrote:Trust me,I'm no moron.As soon as I saw money order/money gram I didn't reply to their e-mail.This is there physical address and the e-mail that they used.Also the link:Our Address is:
Quality Computer Supplies
5632 Van Nuys Blvd.
Suite 133
Van Nuys, CA 91401<[email protected]>
http://dallas.craigslist.org/ele/500571452.htmlAlso,everybody is saying that it is better to go with the N95-1 over the N95 8gb.It would be cheaper.But would it be smarter being that the new firmware update is such an improvement?I can get one anywhere from $450 to $540.Which is quite a bit cheaper.If it really is running that much better now,then why not?Does it ever get the memory errors anymore?Like I said,I'm getting one either way.But it's always nice to save money.TIA
The Yahoo email is a giveaway too. The address seems to be an accomodation address, might be someone else's room anyway, difficult to tell.
I'd go for the US model N95-3 (RM-160). You can get 6GB cards for these phones now and the speed improvements with v20 Firmware on the classic N95-1 (RM-159) should appear on the US model, if they aren't part of the firmware now.
Well the N95-3 was the one I wanted initially.But the're hard to find for a good price.I just got off the phone with this lady selling a N95-1 for $500.Which is a pretty damn good deal!It's factory sealed with warranty.She some rich soccer mom who got it as a birthday gift but wanted an iphone more.So,she's just gonna keep the iphone and sell her N95-1.I can have it tomorrow if I want.But I also have to meet with that guy about the N95 8gb tomorrow as well.So I'm kinda in a slight predicament!I don't know which one to buy.N95-1=$500 maybe a little cheaper.Or a N95 8gb=$670,maybe I can talk him down a little.I'm gonna buy one of those tomorrow.I'm leaning a little more towards the N95-1.Mainly because the new FW update and hot swap microSD.The screen difference is not a big deal.And it's cheaper!lol.Advice please.TIA
waxup wrote:If the person who lost the phone reported it stolen, you may get a "failed to register sim" message meaning that they were on the same service provider as you.
I believe the service providers share blocked IMEI lists anyway, so it wouldn't matter if you were on the same network? Although actually I'm not certain if it's done in the US.. it ought to be.
You guys get livid about some stuff!lol.Well I'm not buying the obvious bad deal.But I do think that I'm gonna go with the N95-1 and just do the FW update and get a big microSD.It's cheaper and it seems to be so much better since the FW update!So,it sounds like the best deal out of the bunch.$500 for a brand new never opened N95-1!That's an awesome deal!Or is it?I think so!Of course I'm clearly new to this (Symbian)world.And was wanting some solid user opinions on the matter.Nothing can compare to a first hand experience.TIA
Pheonix SZ wrote:By not selling them at all.
It's just a scam - Moneygram guarantees it.
I don't know squat about moneygram, though I wouldn't really say the pricing point is a complete scam - you can get them for just a little bit more in the Philippines. $450 is a tad low, though up it to $490 or $500 and you'll walk home with a black n80-8GB - no contract, no hidden fees, you own the phone - the sellers are making a nice chunk of profit even at prices people in the US think are 'too good to be true' - your phones are a tad over priced on that side of the world. Don't be too quick to assume it is stolen merchandise - the seller might be from the box of bottom dwelling scum, but the price isn't too far out.
dchky wrote:I don't know squat about moneygram, though I wouldn't really say the pricing point is a complete scam - you can get them for just a little bit more in the Philippines. $450 is a tad low, though up it to $490 or $500 and you'll walk home with a black n80-8GB - no contract, no hidden fees, you own the phone - the sellers are making a nice chunk of profit even at prices people in the US think are 'too good to be true' - your phones are a tad over priced on that side of the world. Don't be too quick to assume it is stolen merchandise - the seller might be from the box of bottom dwelling scum, but the price isn't too far out.
In the Phillipines, maybe not.
But bona fide vendors tend to sell for as much as they can get, which is gunna be dictated by bona fide domestic etail prices.
Matt.C wrote:Did you buy it using paypal? If so you have £500 worth of buyers protection. Make a claim with them and tell the seller you are doing so if you cannot resolve it.Id say that 75% of phones on ebay are stolen/lost though, ive baught a dodgy one off there myself in the past.
Matt this is not true paypal dnt class phones in the £500 catogary they will only give you back £150 for a phone if they cant recover the money from the seller,
I bought a N95 8GB from ebay ( 60 feedback 96% positive ) for £350 the guy was makin excuses that he will be shipping the phones a week afta auction ends then when it came to the date got an email sayin there has been a delay an will be shipping afta anotha week i opened a dispute with paypal an they usualy give the seller 10 days to reply by then he had closed his ebay account but he neva replied to paypal they gave me £150 i rang :call2: them an they were not budging so lost out £200 but hey it has tought me lesson not to buy from ebay!!!
Sorry for the long story but just want you guys to be carefull :listen: B4 buying from ebay again i thought i was getting a bargain :deal: at £350 :shakehand but i got screwed 😛cguru:!!!:tongue:
Just out of interest. Does anyone feel there is a valid alternative to Ebay?
We seem to have come a long way from having to go to somewhere like Cash Converters or the local paper, mainly down to one company.
steverobbo wrote:Just out of interest. Does anyone feel there is a valid alternative to Ebay?We seem to have come a long way from having to go to somewhere like Cash Converters or the local paper, mainly down to one company.
There have been many, many attempts over the years.
But eBay has systematically demolished them all, to maintain their abusive monopoly.
They know exactly how to do it - and quite honestly, it's within the capabalities of one individual.
No problem for a company with an equivalent GDR larger than most African economies.
I have bought over 40 phones form ebay, never been ripped off, why? Because you just check the basics, where the seller lives, feedback, only pay by paypal etc etc, ignore all emails sent to your email address and just use your MyEbay inbox, even email the seller and ask if they accept cash on collection if they say yes they 99.9% likely to be genuine, its easy I have no sympathy for people who get ripped off, sorry
PhreakTastic wrote:I have bought over 40 phones form ebay, never been ripped off, why? Because you just check the basics, where the seller lives, feedback, only pay by paypal etc etc, ignore all emails sent to your email address and just use your MyEbay inbox, even email the seller and ask if they accept cash on collection if they say yes they 99.9% likely to be genuine, its easy I have no sympathy for people who get ripped off, sorry
I'd go further than that - I'd say you had downright hostility towards them .... or you wouldn't have bothered posting what you did.
The bloke's lost a lot of money - I doubt that he needs his nose rubbing in it. 🙄
Learning the ropes of eBay isn't necessarily an overnight occurrence.
Have some sympathy for those who've learned the hard way.
Even seasoned traders occasionally end up with the short end of the stick.
No hostility was intended, Apologies.
Caveat emptor!
All money back guarantees, refund policies and the like are there to encourage more people to use the selling services. Which they do very effectively.
pa49 wrote:Caveat emptor!
All money back guarantees, refund policies and the like are there to encourage more people to use the selling services. Which they do very effectively.
Ebay loves a seller.
After all, buyers don't initiate auctions - and as Nostromo's science officer said, are expendible.