Hi guys just got a shiny new n95 today on vodaphone...just did a quick search on tomtom v6 with the n95 and to my suprise the inbuilt gps aint compatible...this is the whole reason why i got this phone, coming from an n73 which was awesome!
I guess u have the question quite alot, but is there a patch or an update to get it working or maybe version 7 is on its way to the mobile platform.
any info would reall be appreciated cheers
Nope, theres no information on it at all, anyone who tells you anything else (other than tomtom) is lying.
Tomtom themsleves will not say anything, I asked them a few days ago and got the reply 'we are adding new devices to our list all the time, please check our support pages blah blah'.
At the moment no-one even knows if they ever will update the software for PDAs/smartphones, as their own device market is booming.
And theres no patch, trust me Ive looked.
yes unfortunately tomtom is not compatible with the internal gps. this leaves us with garmin as the hands down best gps app for the n95. rumors are tomtom 7 will support n95, but its jsut a rumor with no confirmation.
i wonder how people dont research before they buy expensive phones like n95 8GB. over on hofo, a user just posted the question asking why his n95 8GB isnt picking up a USA 3G signal, completely thinking that it was compatible. he bought the wrong phone, where the n95-3 works for US 3G. worse, in a few weeks the n95 8GB will come out for US 3G. why would he NOT research before buying a phone at almost 1000USD!?!?!?
It's not just lack of research, it can be simple stupidity, as it was in my case. I bought the N95 thinking that TomTom would bring on an update very soon, to get a piece of the market share formed by the millions buying this great phone. As we know now, the jokes on me (us?), because TomTom obviously has made enough money and needn't care about such petty stuff anymore.
Without Garmin the S60-with-built-in-GPS community would be in severe trouble, but thankfully they stepped up to the plate and grabbed a big market share, while TomTom was nowhere to be seen.
Go Garmin XP and be happy 😊
All the main satnav companies support symbian internal GPS now, except tomtom.
I would be very surprised if tomtom wasn't or isn't working on an update to get the N95 GPS working.
Personally, I think that *if* they are, its something else holding it up. Possibly the POI problem, who knows. Maybe an integration of a new feature is causing problems?
I doubt its the GPS thats holding them up, large and small companies sorted it out ages ago. I dont know when viewranger supported it from, but it was at least 4 months ago.
so there is a garmin equivalent out there then? what is it called... may have to go down that route. as i have played with the one that comes with the phone and its dreadfull!
yes its called Garmin XT i believe. the nokia maps is nowhere near as good as garmin. with garmin, the search rocks, the display and graphics rock, the turn by turn voice is super accurate, and it even gives traffic info, and will tell you the nearest gas/petrol stations and the price of gas there as of the last 24 hours! the garmin online feature is just great.
It might happen:icon14: - it might not .:icon13:
But in the meantime you can use the bluetooth gps that you had for the N73. You will find that you get a "slightly" better fix and a "slightly" quicker fix time.
Take a look at Google maps for your N95 . A new version has just been released and seems to be much better than previous ones.
Hmmm, search feature on garmin is crap really. An address i want couldnt be found at all, couldnt even get it to the correct city as it wasnt in there! Thats very bad imo, and they do not have a decent list of postcodes.
Even with the latest maps they havent updated them. Still, hopefully some bugs have been resolved, ive got the newest version and the latest maps, so we will see.
bartmanekul wrote:Hmmm, search feature on garmin is crap really. An address i want couldnt be found at all, couldnt even get it to the correct city as it wasnt in there! Thats very bad imo, and they do not have a decent list of postcodes.Even with the latest maps they havent updated them. Still, hopefully some bugs have been resolved, ive got the newest version and the latest maps, so we will see.
There was a bug in the address search - you had to capitalize the search phrase properly otherwise you get nothing. Fixed in the latest version.
Aside from that, you are talking partly about usability issues that are caused by the operator (you), and partly about the maps being deficient in some areas.
The advantage with Garmin is that you can correct mapping errors or just go out and build your own - doing this will very likely give you a better appreciation of the complexities of mapping - that way you might be a little more thoughtful before jumping the gun and calling things 'Crap'
Yeah, I have been fiddling with Garmin Mobile XT in the past week, and I have to say "wow". It has so much flexibility. Add your own POIs, add your own maps, speedcamera alterts, add precompiled special POIs, customisable "car" symbol, lots of online options back to Garmin for traffic, weather etc.
The only issue I have with it is it has a bit of lag, like it will tell you to turn when you actually get to the intersection sometimes! I notice after I have made the turn, I will still see the screen showing the original trajectory for a few seconds too (lag again). I may have to set the map detail lower when driving (I have it set to more or most to enable seeing all the roads, parks, POIs etc, may have to set it to normal or less for navigating, it isn't like you need to see everything when driving!).
It would be nice if the volume control could be tied into the N95 volume controls also, and maybe be a bit louder? 100% with my windows down I actually can't hear that Pommie woman too well. Maybe I will try the Yank.
I have had it fire up twice now and asking for my preferences (and thus losing my saved searches, pois etc) but it is easy to save these with the mapsource and various other PC tools anyway that I am not *too* fussed about this, although I would hope they fix this quirk before I fork out any hard earned for better maps ec for this!
Regards
thanks for all the info... looks like i might check out the garmin alternative.. is there a demo of this on there website or a way of checking it out before i buy...heard its about �80 so want to be sure
dchky wrote:There was a bug in the address search - you had to capitalize the search phrase properly otherwise you get nothing. Fixed in the latest version.Aside from that, you are talking partly about usability issues that are caused by the operator (you), and partly about the maps being deficient in some areas.
The advantage with Garmin is that you can correct mapping errors or just go out and build your own - doing this will very likely give you a better appreciation of the complexities of mapping - that way you might be a little more thoughtful before jumping the gun and calling things 'Crap'
No, the place I wanted is abergavenny. A large enough place which doesnt turn up on any search results. And theres 2 postcodes which have remained unchanged for ages, and are not on there. Given that its on most (perhaps all, cant remember), other satnavs I have tried have them, I think thats justified in it being a bit crap. Cant find it on the new maps with the new version either, dispite it obviously being there.
After adding it manually, which was a pain as it wouldnt find the city so had to scroll/zoom in, I'll try it again sometime.
BTW, I didnt mean to edit your post, accidently pressed the edit instead of quote button. Should be as it was. Early start!
Though Id check its the latest maps.
tonymy01 wrote:I have had it fire up twice now and asking for my preferences (and thus losing my saved searches, pois etc)
Most of your own stuff, including 'My Positions', is stored in the file below. Make sure you back it up every now and then.
\Garmin\Apps\Symbian\GARMIN_WPT.NVM <- WPT of course meaning WayPoinT
spudgun2 wrote:Hi guys just got a shiny new n95 today on vodaphone...just did a quick search on tomtom v6 with the n95 and to my suprise the inbuilt gps aint compatible...this is the whole reason why i got this phone, coming from an n73 which was awesome!I guess u have the question quite alot, but is there a patch or an update to get it working or maybe version 7 is on its way to the mobile platform.
any info would reall be appreciated cheers
Hi all,
Well sorry but i for one really don't feel the need for the internal GPS to work with Tom Tom at all, as even if it did i would continue to use my more powerful and accurate stand alone GPS. That is both small and easy to carry and has great battery life without draining my devcies battery.
I assume spudgun2 has a separate GPS Receiver if he was already using Tom Tom on his N73 if not a GPS receiver is not expensive to purchase and can be positioned for the best signal in the car and as i said is more powerful and accurate so IMO gives better results and performance than the inbuilt one.
As for Garmin if you want it to work with the internal GPS apparently you need to use the the memory card it came on otherwise it needs a Garmin external GPS receiver to work. Which IMO is hardly what i call user friendly my would i want to have to carry two cards and swap one every time i wanted to use my Sat Nav?
@dchky
Your so funny you think i should buy a software and then build my own maps you really can't be serious with that one can you? I'll stick with Tom Tom and IMO still the best maps and voice navigation with a wealth of Poi's and use my external GPS receiver rather than buying another Sat Nav software for no good reason and using the inferior internal GPS receiver really can't count.
Marc
I have to say that the internal GPS on the N95 is easily good enough. Having seen a friend with an 8GB, and using the 6110 which has the same in I have had no problem at all with it. As far as getting a lock is concerned, mine easily keeps up with (and sometimes beats) a sirf 3 GPS device when I have AGPS on. I have had no problem at all maintaining lock.
Personally I think theres a problem with the arial for the GPS on the N95 classic at least, as I hav seen many people complain of lack of signal, dispite doing everything right.
As for the bit about batterylife, well for me its a bonus as I am charging both phone and GPS device. In my eyes, I dont have to worry about a seperate device running out.
I agree that garminm are daft to lock it to a single memory card.
so will garmin work on the 8gb version as there is no memory card?
Ah, good point. Technically no, but if you buy garmin and then follow various guides about, you can do it.
I have moved it from the garmin card to my larger card, but afraid the process cannot be posted here as it makes it easy to simply pirate it instead.
Garmin can be on your own card. I simply hook the phone up in "data transfer" mode rather than PC Suite mode, and the Garmin windows Mapsource recognises the new drive and reads/writes to that. You can install it and try it using the world map as far as I can tell.
There was a bit of fiddling to register the N95 internal GPS with it, but it works.
Regards
sbc wrote:Most of your own stuff, including 'My Positions', is stored in the file below. Make sure you back it up every now and then.\Garmin\Apps\Symbian\GARMIN_WPT.NVM <- WPT of course meaning WayPoinT
Thanks 😊 Good advice. Never thought to back that info up. Just checking through the files to see where the application preferences are stored as well, though this is infinitely easier to set up if lost.
Mapsource, don't know why I never thought of using that before - it backs up tracks, routes, and waypoint info as well.
zippiracer wrote:I too bought the n95 but i am having certificate expired problem. when ever i try to install atheme it says certificate expired
Don't forget to set it correctly again after though!
can you guys help me out with garmin? i'm in the USA, and i cannot figure out how to search just by using zip code, or postal code. like lets say i want to search for something, anything, it seems i always need to know the full address! isnt there any way to just search by zip/postal code?
What version do you have? Settings - About -
The latest is 4.10.60, which you can download free from the garmin site, but backup all of your stuff from the directory shown earlier on this thread.
On the latest version, go to
Where to - addresses - You might have to choose the country, you might not. Mine seems to be random. - Choose spell Spell city/postal code. - Then input postcode. You can ignore the 'Enter house number' if you want, as this isnt essential.
bartmanekul wrote:All the main satnav companies support symbian internal GPS now, except tomtom.
Not just big ones either, Google's free app supports it, Amaze which is a community led freeware thing, works with it. TomTom are literally on their own in NOT supporting the inbuilt N95 GPS.
ahh OK i'll try that. yes i am using xx.60, the latest version.
Bah. Latest maps dont seem that great.
Theres still 2 turns it refuses to acknowlage (on a 8km journey!), and they either ignore or missed 2 roundabouts near where I work. Do they ignore the painted on the road roundabouts?
well maybe the roundabouts are where garmin sucks. here in cali there are no roundabouts. but back home in new jersey they are everywhere. i'll test it out next time i'm there. but my garmin is spot on accurate out here, and never misses any turns.