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Calls being recorded by third party

75 replies · 23,391 views · Started 22 January 2008

Hi all quick question, does anyone know of any good security software for my original N95 on 02? I know that one of my calls was recorded in the past, which was later played back onto a landline. I know it was not recorded by the person i was talking too but am unsure exactly how it was, via scanner etc. i never have bluetooth turned on as i have been advised before that that is a security risk. I know i could just go to the police, but i still feel that is a little extreme just after some protection via software really, to protect everything in my phone and things i send out. anything people can advise would be great, many thanks.

do you want to record your phone calls? otherwise i dont know what you are really trying to say. someone recorded one of your phone calls in the past, then that was done with some equipment or recording device. there are many apps you can put on your n95 to record your phone calls. the only one that doesnt play a periodic beep is total recall.

nahhh, I think he wants something to STOP him/her from being recorded...

which isnt going to happen without someone knowing you are trying to alter your call...

the recording would happen on the other end, of which you have no control.

kontraband was right, i am trying to stop someone record my calls, and to hijack my texts. as i beleive this may of happened in the past. As im not quite sure how they are doing this i didnt know if there was any way to stop this happening. so there arnt any security progams to stop any of this happening? dam it. i dont ever hear a beep on my end tho when i make calls, neither is there a delay in connecting etc after the phone is answered. when i googled about this before it says that ur battery wil drain quicker if it is bugged, which i havent noticed happening. Anyone know anything else about this subject? either tapping calls/fone scanners etc? or any protection anyone knows off to protect my data. As i dont think the police would do much without much evidence and no idea who has been doing it.

The one way this can be done is if you were using a bluetooth headset. I have a program that can capture your phonecalls via bluetooth by forcing the pairing cycle between the phone and the headset and capturing the passcode.
This can only be done with a laptop and while in close proximity to the victim.

I wouldn't be worried about this if you are not using bluetooth headsets, especially if you have bluetooth disabled.

There are five other ways this can be done:

1: If the other party (the person you are on the phone with) is recorded the call with a call record program on their phone.
2: If the call is being routed through a third party monitor (most toll free numbers are set up this way).
3: They are on a landline and have a voice recorded attached on the line via rj11.
4: Your line is tapped (see option 2).
5: You are using VOIP and someone has hijacked your service, again similar to option 2.

zippi if you dont believe they are for this kinda thing, why post the link AND have it linked in your sig. Calm it down a bit please. 😉

Yes, second offence at this, I think I warned you before Zippiracer.

Interesting that you say texts. I dont know of any way of doing that except perhaps them installing something on your phone, that might forward texts silently to their number.

As for the calls, they can easily be recorded as people said, and theres no way of stopping that at their end.

However if your on about someone else listening to your calls, not the person your calling, then Im pretty sure this is very very high end stuff.

Yeah, the only way to divert texts is to have someone actually change the message center settings on your phone, and this would mean that the text probably wouldnt reach it's intended recipient, and thus you'd have them telling you this, and you probably wouldn't receive texts as well.

The phone's OS does not work like that of your pc in the sense that you can't have a trojan on there that is spaming or hijacking your services. Someone would have to manually change these settings on the phone or intercept your data as a man in the middle attack or some other means of third party interception.

Also, if you are concerned with your phone being "bugged" you could do a firmware reflash (NOTE: you will lose all your personal data so back it up).

I was more on about a covert program that would simply forward texts to a number. However that seems unlikely, for a number of reasons.

First is that it would surely show up as a running task.

Second is that they would have to have access to the phone to install it.

Lastly, Im not aware of any programs that could do that, though that doesnt mean there arnt any.

thank you all for your replys. just to clarify a little more, neither me or the person i was talking to was using a bluetooth headset or had um turned on. they had a motorola razor fone if that means anything?they defo didnt use any program to record the conversation. i have recently upgraded all my firmware so was hoping that would make it harder for it to happen again, but i do suspect that it might of happened again. does anyone know much about phone scanners? do they still exist?

Honestly, this does seem a little ridiculous, sorry for being blunt.

I have to ask, why are you so paranoid? Are you that concerned about someone listening in on your cell phone calls (if you live in the USA, all calls are screened to some extent)? If you are, why? Are you involved with illegal activities that you wouldn't want anyone to find out about?

Most hackers or fraudulant people wouldn't target someone like this just for the fun of it without any personal gain because it's a hassle (to record cell phone calls because of proximity issues etc.).

If you are involved in illegal activities, which seems evident, then I can no longer be involved with this thread and do not condone such acts.

If you are not involved in any illegal acts and are just overly paranoid, than i apologize but I cannot provide any more information and thus, again, am not going to be involved in this thread! SORRY!

What exactly happened before? Dont need to know intimate details etc, but things like was it someone you know record things? Was it calls, or calls and texts?

Did they actually have any proof of it, or just said they did?

I agree with waxup, you are either overly paranoid about a very unlikely threat or you are up to no good.

I get the impression somethings happened before, but I could be wrong.

....a mic in the room would record half the conversation????

PS - #just because you're paranoid....don't mean their not after you# 😮

i was wrongly suspected of having an affair with someone before, a conversation we had was later played back to her husband, on her landline, even though the conversation happend on mobiles. she also heard it. things we had spoke about via text was also send to her husband, but obviously twisted to sound worst. honestly is nothing illegal at all. The conversation that was played back had both our voices on but was noisey in the background, like interference, some things u couldnt hear thru noise, dont no if the noise was covered to make the conversation sound worst than it was or not?

OOHHH well that solves it! The husband probably hired a private investigator and they got a trace put on her phone lines through the mobile operator (can be done by police, especially in the case of a cheating spouse that could lead to divorce etc).

Are they allowed to do that? I thought only police were?

Either way, Id place a bet on the mobile company having a hand in it, although I cant see why it was such a bad recording.

argh i see. didnt know private investigators had the power to do that though? isnt that still classed as intrusive or something? dont know legal terms, or what power private investigators have. im in the uk if that makes any difference.

I imagine some have contacts in mobile phone companies, I remember something on El Reg about a guy who broadcast his ex's text messages because he had a friend working at T mobile or something.

Not sure if its legal for a PI to record and listen in on private calls, I seriously doubt it.

it made the husband paranoid and lead to other "troubles" for her and me. which makes me think he didnt hire a private investiagtor, maybe someone else did though? or maybe someone with a vendetta with one of us involved has the equipment or the knowledge to do that? also made me question how save mobile fones wer to use anyway, and what information is really safe on them etc.

i also thought that there mite be a link to either her or my mobile fone operator but dont know how a outsider could get that information without one of us agreeing to it or being informed?

Like I said, all it takes is a contact in a network to do it.

Possibly they used equipment, but then Id imagine he would have to be nearby to intercept the calls?

Or, he used bluetooth to listen in on using her phone.

I dont know, thats all guesswork really.

i find it a very intersting subject now so all these suggestions have been very helpful, and gives me more of an insite into things. was going to contact my provider but as i have no evidence wouldnt have much to go on and they would probly just change my number which probly wudnt help much.

well, scandle on the forum! 😉

so you were falsely accused by who... the hubby?? Id say who ever accused you, is the one that is chasing you! If someone is chasing you.

And no.. Im sure P.I.s over here arent allowed to... its a US thing. BUT Im sure its pretty easy for them to do it, thru the mates mate method. 😞

he accused me yes. but he also recieved text messeges saying things that we had sent to each other.(me and the woman). also he recieved texts saying that we wer having an affair etc. she also recieved texts saying that her husband knows we are having an affair,(all false). i have yet not recieved any texts or fone calls.

It's as simple as the husband contacting his lawyer with the accusation, the lawyer contacting officials to get call records etc. incase of a pending lawsuit/divorce or whatever the husband had planned on doing.

Adultery is a serious offence in most countries and under the right circumstances a lawyer would be able to retrieve those sorts of things like phone records.

And don't forget that anything can be done if the price is right.

if the husband hadnt recieved texts and calls too then i wud say it was him unless he trying to double bluff it. make people think he got nothing to do with it either?