Product Codes for Nokia E51

cool! THX

If I were to add Hebrew to an English phone would i lose the English?

Worked fine... BUT ATTENTION!!!

after change of product code and NSU flashing the phone started fine. But, then I restored the backup of telefone memory from sd card and the phone was dead afterwords.

only this helped to reset:
while phone is switched off, press * and 3 and green button, keep pressed, switch on the phone an wait for the PIN to enter

so, use other backup prior changing product code.

This seems to be the valid language pack compilation. This list is from another Nokia forum, related to another Nokia Symbian Phone. I used EURO1 and it matched:

EURO1: English, French, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese
EURO2: English, French, German, Turkish, Dutch, Italian
EURO2: English, Czech, Slovakian, German, Polish, Hungarian
Scandinavia: English, Finnish, Swedish, Norwegian, Icelandic, Danish
Baltic: English, German, Estonian, Russian, Latvian, Lithuanian
Russia: English, German, Ukrainian, Russian, Romanian, Bulgarian, Hungarian
Balkans: English, German, Croatian, Slovenian, Serbian, Greek
Arabic: English, Arabic, French, Farsi, Urdu
Hebrew: English, Hebrew, Arabian, Russian, Romanian, Spanish
Africa: English, Portuguese, German, Italian, French

No garantees for the others.

Thanxs Bartho. Just a little confused here ,which product code has the language has Hebrew and English together?

as far as I know english is in all. depending on the color, any with Hebrew should match.

WOW - nearly 1800 "looks" as at 25th March - not bad!!! :icon14:

Hi Ziffos and thread members.

Have to say this site is totally useful and I really appreciate all those that have put the effort in to create and sustain it. This is my first post, but I hope to help others in the future soon.
I currently have a Vodafone E51 Black with Product code 0552941, Software version 150.34.15 on a RM-244 Nokia E51 (225.04) and have tried to change the product code to one of the Euro 1,2,3 Black editions above using NSS.
The product code change works fine, but when I run NSU it finds no software update for the version I am using. I find this strange as when I change the prodcut code back to the Vodafone UK one, the NSU finds the software update and says it can reinstall the current version (which is the most up to date version available).

Am I doing something wrong as I want to get rid of the Vodafone software - the phone came without a SIM lock from Vodafone as I can install other UK sims fine from new.

A helping hand would really be appreciated.

kvu wrote:Hi Ziffos and thread members.

Have to say this site is totally useful and I really appreciate all those that have put the effort in to create and sustain it. This is my first post, but I hope to help others in the future soon.
I currently have a Vodafone E51 Black with Product code 0552941, Software version 150.34.15 on a RM-244 Nokia E51 (225.04) and have tried to change the product code to one of the Euro 1,2,3 Black editions above using NSS.
The product code change works fine, but when I run NSU it finds no software update for the version I am using. I find this strange as when I change the prodcut code back to the Vodafone UK one, the NSU finds the software update and says it can reinstall the current version (which is the most up to date version available).

Am I doing something wrong as I want to get rid of the Vodafone software - the phone came without a SIM lock from Vodafone as I can install other UK sims fine from new.

A helping hand would really be appreciated.

Hi KVU and welcome to the Forum.
I am afraid that I may be giving you bad news as I believe that mobile phones with Vodafone software cannot change their product codes and therefore are unable to get rid of the "unsightly" branding. I believe that Orange branded phones have the same problem.
If I am wrong in this information then I hope that other forum members will tell us.
Sorry I was unable to help but good luck with the E51 as its a fantastic phone. :icon14:

ziffos wrote:Hi KVU and welcome to the Forum.
I am afraid that I may be giving you bad news as I believe that mobile phones with Vodafone software cannot change their product codes and therefore are unable to get rid of the "unsightly" branding. I believe that Orange branded phones have the same problem.
If I am wrong in this information then I hope that other forum members will tell us.
Sorry I was unable to help but good luck with the E51 as its a fantastic phone. :icon14:

Thank you for your reply!
Well that sucks doesnt it?! You would have never thought that the firmware has been locked forever. Does that mean that any Nokia phone with Vodafone UK software is subject to the same issues? I see many people talk of their N95's etc. and I wonder if they have had the same issues.

I have Nokia E90's and E61i's in my business all on Vodafone Business so it would be interesting to know.

Thank you to anyone who replies!

Best wishes

KVU

kvu wrote:Thank you for your reply!
Well that sucks doesnt it?! You would have never thought that the firmware has been locked forever. Does that mean that any Nokia phone with Vodafone UK software is subject to the same issues? I see many people talk of their N95's etc. and I wonder if they have had the same issues.

I have Nokia E90's and E61i's in my business all on Vodafone Business so it would be interesting to know.

Thank you to anyone who replies!

Best wishes

KVU

Yes it certainly does "suck" and I am fairly sure that N95's are the same (have a look at http://www.n95users.com/forum/ as you may find discussions about it). As far as all other Nokia's on Vodafone I am afraid I cannot answer.
Regards 😊

kvu wrote:Thank you for your reply!
Well that sucks doesnt it?! You would have never thought that the firmware has been locked forever. Does that mean that any Nokia phone with Vodafone UK software is subject to the same issues? I see many people talk of their N95's etc. and I wonder if they have had the same issues.

I have Nokia E90's and E61i's in my business all on Vodafone Business so it would be interesting to know.

Thank you to anyone who replies!

Best wishes

KVU

I don't think it's a case of the Vodafone FW being "locked", more that there simply hasn't been any firmware released to replace it. Changing the product code is only part of the process. This merely tells the updater to download firmware for different operator or region. Fact is, AFAIK, Nokia haven't issued any updates for the E51 so the updater has nothing to install, other than the version you already have.

Another observation is that unlike the N95 it would appear that the E51 has been dropped (or not taken up) by most retail outlets (e.g. it's no longer sold on O2 PAYG) and is mainly being sold as B2B. I ended up getting mine by mail order as there wasn't anywhere I could buy it over the counter. I guess that means there is little pressure for Nokia to publicly release updates via the NSU because of the limited distribution, and why pretty much every one ships with the Vodafone build. Hopefully that will soon change, but, knowing Nokia and it's support history with other E series, I wouldn't bank on it.

Not that that's such a big deal. Compared to their treatment of other phones, the Vodafone wrap is pretty thin anyway.

It only took me about 10 minutes to delete the preconfigured Access Points and Email accounts, uninstall the Vodafone Live apps, and reassign the key short-cuts and screen savers back to standard, so it now behaves like a standard Nokia. The only thing I can't seem to get rid of are the bookmarks in the browser.

Plus, with no later versions around, there are no bug or feature fixes to be had by forcing in other firmware. As far as I can tell, the only thing you are going to achieve by messing around with NSS etc. is to throw your 2 year EU warranty out of the window. That's a high price to pay for little gain!

Hello all!!!!

Just to clear up lots of misunderstanding that there seems to be above.

1) You can change a vodafone/orange branded phone to a non branded version of firmware. Change as per the instructions above at the top, and then when NSU says there is no firmware update available take the option of 'reinstalling' the firmware and you will get your debranded firmware.

2) This does NOT take away the SIM lock though - the SIM lock is a seperate lock and nothing to do with the firmware - you will still only be able to use a vodafone SIM for example.

3) When restoring a backup where you have changed your product code, never EVER under any circumstances restore the 'settings' part of the backup. This is what causes the phone to get screwed up and you have to use the hard reset trick.

(for example most vodafone firmware disables the VOIP phone sections of the firmware [and appropriate settings], and so cannot be restored onto a non branded firmware phone as the settings dont match up)

you can restore contacts, notes and calendar just fine though.

Hope this helps.

Nyxmorph wrote:Hello all!!!!

Just to clear up lots of misunderstanding that there seems to be above.

1) You can change a vodafone/orange branded phone to a non branded version of firmware. Change as per the instructions above at the top, and then when NSU says there is no firmware update available take the option of 'reinstalling' the firmware and you will get your debranded firmware.

2) This does NOT take away the SIM lock though - the SIM lock is a seperate lock and nothing to do with the firmware - you will still only be able to use a vodafone SIM for example.

3) When restoring a backup where you have changed your product code, never EVER under any circumstances restore the 'settings' part of the backup. This is what causes the phone to get screwed up and you have to use the hard reset trick.

(for example most vodafone firmware disables the VOIP phone sections of the firmware [and appropriate settings], and so cannot be restored onto a non branded firmware phone as the settings dont match up)

you can restore contacts, notes and calendar just fine though.

Hope this helps.

Many thanks Nyxmorph - I could not have put it better myself :icon14:

Nyxmorph wrote:Hello all!!!!

Just to clear up lots of misunderstanding that there seems to be above.

1) You can change a vodafone/orange branded phone to a non branded version of firmware. Change as per the instructions above at the top, and then when NSU says there is no firmware update available take the option of 'reinstalling' the firmware and you will get your debranded firmware.

2) This does NOT take away the SIM lock though - the SIM lock is a seperate lock and nothing to do with the firmware - you will still only be able to use a vodafone SIM for example.

3) When restoring a backup where you have changed your product code, never EVER under any circumstances restore the 'settings' part of the backup. This is what causes the phone to get screwed up and you have to use the hard reset trick.

(for example most vodafone firmware disables the VOIP phone sections of the firmware [and appropriate settings], and so cannot be restored onto a non branded firmware phone as the settings dont match up)

you can restore contacts, notes and calendar just fine though.

Hope this helps.

Hi Nyxmorph

Thank you for your reply.
I have a black Nokia E51 from Vodafone (delivered a week or so ago) which has no branding on it and is not SIM locked (well I can install O2, Orange and T-Mobile SIMS as I have tested it) but some things such as the access points in connections cannot be deleted for some reason.
I changed the product code with success to the EURO 1, 2 and 3 Black product codes above and then tried an NSU update. I tried uninstalling the NSU software I had on my computer and downloaded the latest version from Nokia.co.uk for the E51 and the problem still persisted!
The problem I refer to is that the NSU program detects the phone with the changed product code but says the software I have is the latest version and then doesnt give the option to update it or reinstall it using the same version already on it. The option to reinstall the same software (if there is no later version available) does appear via NSU as soon as I change the product code back to the Vodafone original one.

Hope that makes sense and you can provide some help.

Best wishes

KVU

ooOooo now thats a new one. Hmmm maybe you will have to wait for the first update of the firmware then unfortunately to switch firmware.

Strikes me as quite strange though. Maybe they are getting smarter with the NSU at some point.

Hello

Just received a E51 crippled with Orange France firmware, I have problems changing the product code with NSS.

I'm using :
Nokia PC Suite 6.85.14.1
Nokia Software Updater 1.4.36fr (tried with 1.4.36en first)
Nemesis Service Suite Beta 1.0.38.12 (also tried with 1.0.38.10)
USB cable DKE-2 coming with the phone, seems to be a standard USB cable
E51 with product code 0561450 and firmware 100.34.20

When I try to use NSS :

1) after doing a "scan for new device", last line of text I have :
->Products Dir('products'😉.......Not Found.

Using FileMon I see that it's looking for a "C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\products" directory. No one here was speaking about Phoenix, so I assume it has nothing to do with the problem.

2) I click on "Phone Info" then "Scan" the status bar says "Scan for product..." then after 2-3 seconds "Scan for product... Error!".
Same thing if i click "Read" "Reading values..." and after 2-3 seconds "Reading values... Error!".
If check "Enable" type a Product Code and then "Write" it ends up with "Write new values... Error!".
If I use NSS 1.0.38.10 that's it, when I use NSS 1.0.38.12 when I click a second time on "Scan" or "Read" the message remains "Scan for product" forever and when exit NSS I have an error message saying something like "memory address 0xXXXXXXXX can't be read"

I tried with 3 PC, same problem on all of them. 2 WinXP Pro SP2 one with and one without Nokia PC Suite installed, and 1 WinXP Home SP2 with no Nokia PC Suite.

Someone has an idea?

Hi guys! First of all thank you! Great work!

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Personal thanks to ziffos and Nyxmorph!

I had an EUR1 0555751 CTR MEA BLACK - e51

and I used the BULGARIAN language pack, followed the instructions of ziffos and took a note on Nyxmorph's comment about the restoring the backup part and everything works just fine by me!😊

So once again, thank you very much!

WELL,

After reading a few threads along the lines of this one ... http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum//forum/thread/71811/

... I hear that the lastest Nokia Software Suite stops other programs accessing the phone delibrately, nasty Nokia - this may explain Initiators post above. You may have to remove more than just uninstalling it possibly? On the system without Nokia Software Suite, was it uninstalled or was it never installed on those systems. Hmmmm.

stalimirov wrote:Hi guys! First of all thank you! Great work!

:icon14: :icon14: :icon14:

Personal thanks to ziffos and Nyxmorph!

I had an EUR1 0555751 CTR MEA BLACK - e51

and I used the BULGARIAN language pack, followed the instructions of ziffos and took a note on Nyxmorph's comment about the restoring the backup part and everything works just fine by me!😊

So once again, thank you very much!

Its a pleasure stalimirov,
Glad it was useful to you and many thanks for your comments.
Regards,
ziffos :icon14:

My problem is solved. I used another PC that never had any Nokia software installed, installed JAF that has cable drivers coming with the install, and used NSS with no problem.
Someone gave me a link for an old Nokia cable driver later, I haven't tried it.

PC Suite and NSU might be unhappy without the new cable driver, so I just let them as they were.

I've seen on another forum that if you update PC Suite and NSU with a phone plugged you can choose not to update the cable driver.

hi pls help me, which of the codes can i use for my black e51 for it to be able to have chinese language in it because i still don't have it as of now.

princemon wrote:hi pls help me, which of the codes can i use for my black e51 for it to be able to have chinese language in it because i still don't have it as of now.

Hi princemon,

Try the forum at www.opda.net.cn

Have a good look through the threads and you may find what you are looking for.

Good luck.

I changed product code but after running NSU i get this commeent form it: "Curently there is no software update for your phone" and i can not update firmware.

in advance my phone code was :
PC: 0552344: RM-244 CTR ARABIC BLACK

I changed it to :
PC: 0552347: RM-244 CTR FARSI BLACK

My phone is E51
What should i do.
Thanx for your help

hi, I think i'm a little picky...

exist a region or product code which can give me Spanish T9 and Chinese language??

or I must choose one of them 😞
thanx

hi. Is possible to recover the original product code ? changed to 0546184 (Euro1), from vodafone PT. Previous it says no update, now it detecteds but doesn't update... i would like to try to install the original (debranded).
I have a previous backup (i know that i shouldn't use it)

It works perfectly !!! Thanks!! i had one from Dubai.:icon14:

Pc: 0552338: Rm-244 Ctr Brazil Black (pt-br)

hey,
sorry for bringing this thred from the past but this seems like the best place to ask:

i'm loking for the product codes for nokia e51-2 (02)
this is the modle without the camera (rm-426).

my firmware is 151.34.20 from 09.02.2008

i need the code for hebrew (israel).

hope you'll be able to help me.

thanks alot,
barak.