guys I have already a nokia N95 and was thinking of upgrading 😊
I want an honest opinion which of the above I should take and why ....
N95 8 GiG or Iphone 8 GiG
This debate has already been covered in this forum if you do a search.
Meanwhile this article by Steve Litchfield may be of some help:-
N95 > Iphone is not an upgrade....
Navs wrote:N95 > Iphone is not an upgrade....
...more like a step back two years😊
ok ok...so do you think going for the n95 8GiG is good taking in consideration that I already have an n95 the old one ?
I just picked up the N95 8GB, pricey, yes, but this thing is leaps and bounds ahead of the very limited iPhone. The Apple device was made to appeal to the, how should I put this gently, morons, who make their decision based on fashion trends. And the N95 8GB is still IMO a more refined and classier device then the iPhone. This one's a no-brainer.
JethroTul wrote:ok ok...so do you think going for the n95 8GiG is good taking in consideration that I already have an n95 the old one ?
Depends on you.
Basically, its price v how much advantage its going to give you.
Over the N95 classic =
More RAM
Bigger screen (2.6 to 2.8, am I right?)
Better battery.
As for the other things, people have varying opinions.
Its got 8GB onboard, but you cannot expand that memory or swap out for other cards. It also means your limited to USB 1.1 speeds for transferring data.
The N95 8GB has no lens cover. Most people (including me) think its a very bad thing.
I think that due to you considering the iphone and 8Gb, it just sounds like your desperate to upgrade for the sake of it.
If you can, save the money and hold back. Then you can take your pick of the new phones coming out, N96, N78, 6220 classic, etc. These are due out in the 3rd quarter, but could well be sooner.
This may help you decide. It's a copy of a laymans review I wrote in Dec. 2007.
I own both the N95-1 (V20 firmware) and the N95 8GB (V11 firmware), both debranded.
I have been running them for about 6 weeks together and have them set up with identical programmes, layout, settings and themes.
I am also, unlike a lot of you on this forum, not overly technically minded so my observations are very much a laymans and are probably more gut than scientific.
So here goes:-
Until the launch of V20 firmware for the N95-1 I would have had no qualms about recommending the N95 8GB over the N95-1.
I was fed up with having to make sure I had closed prog's properly so that I did not incur the dreaded "Memory full" message. Even if they were all closed I would still get this.
I also had to ensure, because of the very poor battery life (less than a day with my usage), that I had chargers both upstairs and downstairs and anywhere else I went as well as 2 spare batteries and a nifty little battery operated charger.
I found myself constantly checking with Handy Taskman, every time I used the phone, as I usually only had 9-12M of RAM free.
This is why I chose the N95 8GB when it came out. Now I had a whopping 80M + of RAM and the battery is lasting at least 50% longer. So I can now go away for the weekend with either a spare battery or my little battery charger. Plus the phone seemed to run faster, menu's came up quicker, the camera opened faster, WiFi seemed easier and I wasn't constantly checking Handy Taskman to close prog's.
I can't explain it but the larger screen on the 8GB looks a lot bigger than the N95-1. By that I mean that I know that there is only .2" (2.6"-2.8"😉 between them but it looks more. Also I think the screen on the 8GB looks less "washed out." It's hard to explain and a screenshot would not help, but bearing in mind that I'm using the same theme on both, the 8GB looks marginally sharper and has better contrast and colour saturation, something I didn't expect with the larger screen.
On the subject of the screen, and purely on aesthetic grounds, I like the fact that the screen on the 8GB is flush with the fascia and that the top slider covers the width of the phone. Again, on aesthetic grounds, I prefer the all black look.
The two phones are identical in size save for the depth. To me this is hardly noticeable in that the n95-1 is the same depth as the 8GB at the camera housing level and then tapers off slightly towards the bottom of the phone whilst the 8GB remains constant and if you lay them side by side the N95-1 is thicker at the top end of the phone and the same at the bottom end, probably because of the lens cover slider.
My N95-1 suffers, as do a number of others, from a wobbly slider and light leakage down the sides of the two panels that make up the top slider.
A lot has been mentioned on the subject of the smaller keys surrounding the Nav key on the 8GB. IMHO they are not a problem, as the centre Nav, Menu and Multimedia keys have been domed, or raised, to make them more accessible. As for the alpha/numeric keys, they appear to be unchanged. The media keys at the opposite end of the phone on the 8GB are now "dimpled" or "domed" and to my mind are the better for it. Much more tactile and easy to use.
The lack of a Memory card, microSD, in the 8GB has been a source of great debate and I must say that on the whole I wish that it did have a removable memory like the N95-1 if only for the fact that I would feel safer in being able to remove it under certain circumstances, i.e. a crash. Of course there are those who say that a seperate memory means that one can put a larger card in when they become available, already there is the 8GB card for the N95-1 which puts it on a par with the 8GB and larger cards are mooted for the future. However, I have about 220 songs, 40 short video's and roughly 200 images plus assorted other items such as the complete maps of the British Isles and some of France on both of them and I've only used less than 2GB on both of them. So for the forseeable future I think 8GB will suffice and by the time I need more both phones will have been superceded. I perhaps should also add that I have 42 prog's/themes but they are stored on the phones memories and I have 85.5M left of 134M on the 8GB and 96.6M of 147M on the N95-1. Have only just noticed that the 8GB has a slightly smaller phone memory.
Another topic of discussion has been the lack of a camera shutter on the 8GB and on the whole I think I would have preferred one possibly. Having said that, I still have to wipe the lens of my N95-1 regularly because of the debris, fluff and dust that still makes its way onto the lens inspite of the shutter. There is of course the question of scratches to the lens of the 8GB over a period of time and I may well find myself in the future having to take it to a Service Centre for replacement.
The speakers on both phones, admittedly to my tin ears, sound identical to me. I never had a problem with "hiss."
Therefore I suppose we come to the crunch question, WHICH IS BETTER?
I started this piece by stating my reasons for getting the N95 8GB to replace my N95-1 and at the time these reasons were, to me, valid.
Then good old Nokia released their version 20 firmware upgrade for the N95-1 and suddenly that phone became everything it should have been 8 months ago when it was launched. To anyone who has not got this V20 firmware I urge you to get it by whatever means right away. Debrand if you have to. It was truly a revelation. It was everything, and more, that I had hoped for. No longer was the N95-1 the poor relation. No longer did I feel that we early adopters had been let down, punished or forgotten. The N95-1 was now on a par with the 8GB. 30M of RAM at startup! They both seem to operate identically, the menu's look the same (except for maybe Downloads and the difference in icons on the calendar folder). There are other small, to me, differences but they are essentially now identical. Maybe, just maybe, there is a very, very, slight lag on the N95-1 but not enough to worry me. In any case, it's a lot faster than it was.
So, IMHO, the answer to the $64,000 question is this:-
If version 20 firmware had been available before I got the the 8GB I would not have bothered to get it. Having said that, I do like the larger, flush, full width screen, dimpled media keys, longer battery life of the 8GB now that I have it.
Oh! and the black colour.
Before anyone berates me for this article I would like to reiterate that these are only the non technical observations of a layman and only written to try and help forum readers reach their own descision on what is important to them.
I hope this helps someone.
N95 Ftw !!!
If you have an N95 classic, the 8Gb is not, IMO, a worthwhile upgrade. You gain a little more RAM and a slightly bigger screen and better battery.
The RAM becomes a non-issue with the newest (v20) firmware as demand paging basically optimises the classic's use of memory and makes it much faster.
My advice is to upgrade to v20 firmware (there are stickies on how to do this) and buy yourself an 8Gb microSD card (about £35 on play.com), then see how you feel. Honestly, it will be like a new phone though.
Discount the iPhone though, look what you will lose:
Third party apps
5mp camera with autofocus and flash
Video recording at high res
GPS
Freedom to access the file system
MMS
3/3.5G
The list goes on
3Shirts wrote:
Discount the iPhone though, look what you will lose:
Third party apps
5mp camera with autofocus and flash
Video recording at high res
GPS
Freedom to access the file system
MMS
3/3.5G
The list goes on
Yes, but look what you gain............. er, ..........., hang on, it will come to me ........... soon, I'm sure ..........
Nope, discount the iPhone.
chrsfrwll wrote:Yes, but look what you gain............. er, ..........., hang on, it will come to me ........... soon, I'm sure ..........
A nice big apple-shaped shafting?
3Shirts wrote:A nice big apple-shaped shafting?
Shame on you 3Shirts for that comment.
Don't you think that Apple have thought about that already, as this video demonstrates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSXKn9fo6nk
😊
I don't see the point of upgrading from the N95 to either of your options. I would consider a Windows smartphone if I were you, like the HTC Kaiser, or wait for newer/better Nokia models to arrive.
I own both, N95-1 and 8GB IPhone. The IPhone is good for its big touch screen and browsing capabilities (limited I might ad), but that's about it. While the Nokia is from a different world. You can't compare the two, honestly, there is no such thing, the Nokia has WAY more options/applications. I would stick to my N and wait for the N96 to arrive ! Then I'd upgrade 😊
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