Hi,
First post on here so bare with me. I recently 'upgraded' my SIM card form 2g to 3g because I thought I would get a better connection speed on my N95 for surfing the web and using all my funky third party software which I have started to become reliant on. I got the new card anyway and my new settings soon followed in a text message which I duly saved. In contrary to my previous setting I was only sent 2 this time 02 postpay MMS and WAP. I started using using wap as my default access point when away from home and noticed that the download speeds were really slow in comparison to previous and the third party apps (Shozu, Vyke, Yahoo Go 3! and POP Yahoo) were timing out because presumably the connection was too slow.
I rang them up to complain about the speed. This chump was an idiot. He got the hump when I told him I didn't want to hear their advertisement plug about their new 118 number and the conversation went down hill thereafter. He told me that 3G will not offer me quicker download speeds just better coverage and video phone calling (for the 10 people using it!) Is this true firstly?
I told him if that was the case I want to go back to my trustie 2g SIM card where apps the download speeds were not great but adequate for my apps to work. After telling him a thousand times I didn't give a rats about losing video calling, he eventually agreed to re-register my old sim card. Unfortunately, I didn't get the same settings as I had previously got when using the SIM and got the terrible twosome (02 postpay MMS and WAP) which were just as ineffective as they were for my 3G SIM. I'm hacked off. Can't get no emails or VoIP on my phone now. Has anyone else noticed similar problems? I noticed there was press about 02 restricting download speeds a few weeks ago but not heard anything since. I thought I was on a fairly sweet package with 02 (200 mins, 400 texts, 100MB downloads per month for �23) but if you can direct to competitive data-plan with download speeds that are usable, I am all ears. Hope you can Help!😡
Seanmac
All a load of hogwash. At the very least you want gprs settings, which I think you can get from www.getsettings.o2.co.uk or something like that. Enter your number, phone and bish bash bosh, they get sent to your phone.
Wap settings use the old GPRS speeds and are only work at dialup speeds. To use 3G speeds
1😊 You need to have your 02 Mobile Web Settings
2😊 Have a 3G enabled sim card
3😊 Be in a 3G enabled area and have the 3G symbol on your phone.
As I just found out from o2, (see my 02 + N95 8GB thread), you can only browse the web with Postpay wap option, they should have added a mobile web option which you have to use for everything else.
As chrsfrwll said, go to the o2 website and the help section, thats a bit where they'll resend your setup info.
O2 were recently criticised for only offering 128Kbps speeds over 3G - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/09/o2_speed_limits/
wouldn't surprise me if they're still doing it
adz07 wrote:As I just found out from o2, (see my 02 + N95 8GB thread), you can only browse the web with Postpay wap option, they should have added a mobile web option which you have to use for everything else.As chrsfrwll said, go to the o2 website and the help section, thats a bit where they'll resend your setup info.
I wouldn't recommend using any "sent" settings, but, if you do then at least set up another connection access point using these settings http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html (but NOT the wap settings) and try that access method.
Wap by definition is a restricted access portal which will never give the full web experience.
The GPRS access point name will give you full 3G (3.5G) access on all the networks although it does appear that O2 are throttling their service.
Answer? Change to T-mobile.
Woop!! Just entered the settings at http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html, did a speed check at dslreports.com, and im getting over 800 kbits every time! :icon14:
Thanks everyone for the replies. Sorted it now. I needed the O2 mobile APN rather than the WAP APN which O2 automatically send you. I have now set up my mobile 02 APN and using that rather than the wap APN. The WAP APN is about 10 times slower that the mobile O2 APN which I previously had. That was why everything was timing out. Everything is back working. Why don't O2 send this mobile APN anymore when they send you their settings. Am I too much of a cynic to suggest that they don't want you to use the mobile o2 APN? Hmm
Thanks,
Seanmac
You go girls!!!!
gakman - Makes a difference doesn't it?
seanmc - There you go!
O2 are stuck in a warp that was set when they thought that wap was "the future" of web access and they still do.
Wap strips web data in order to deliver a cut down web experience that was of importance when data costs were originally high.
If they got their act together and offered a reasonably priced total access package they would find more people using it as it should be used.
Later this year you will get higher (3.6mbits ps) from a number of the networks, but, don't hold your breath with O2.
seanmc wrote:I recently 'upgraded' my SIM card form 2g to 3g because I thought I would get a better connection speed on my N95 for surfing the web and using all my funky third party software which I have started to become reliant on. I got the new card anyway and my new settings soon followed in a text message which I duly saved. In contrary to my previous setting I was only sent 2 this time 02 postpay MMS and WAP. I started using using wap as my default access point when away from home and noticed that the download speeds were really slow in comparison to previous and the third party apps (Shozu, Vyke, Yahoo Go 3! and POP Yahoo) were timing out because presumably the connection was too slow.
If you are on a contract and not PAYG, please check TOOLS->SETTINGS->CONNECTIONS->PACKET DATA and ensure the access point in use is mobile.o2.co.uk
This may not speed things up, but you should be able to get a working conenction on apps which are failing as the above AP offers full internet connections, not just WAP sites.
Ideally you also need to setup a full access point 'connection' in your handset to use the mobile.o2.co.uk AP for GPRS data instead of using the wap connection. You can do this by copying the O2 POSTPAY WAP Access-point (in TOOLS->SETTINGS->CONNECTIONS->ACCESS POINTS) , then changing the AP field to mobile.o2.co.uk and the username to mobileweb
Bear in mind the above AP only works for contract SIMs not for PAYG.
dez_borders - thank you so much!! This fixed the problem for me - my Gmail, WLM, eBuddy Mobile etc would either time out or take AGES to sign in - it's now almost instant, thanks for this!
Funng thing is, my n73 never suffered these problems, using hte same SIM card, so I thought there was something wrong with the n95.
things wont speed up going back to your old 2g sim, just get the right settings and try it in a 3g area or 3.5g even better. It will be quicker trust me 😊
i dont like the send settings sites they rarely get them 100% right. Make a written note of them from your old phones thats what i do. I have
O2 MMS
O2 GPRS
and o2 Mobile web