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N96 or E71: which one should I buy?

19 replies · 10,309 views · Started 02 June 2008

I did not find a forum where this question really fits, sorry if it is OT.

I will buy a new phone by the end of the year. For now, it is between the E61 and the N95, but the successors are on the way.

As this might be an FAQ: What in general is the difference between N- and E-Series. I know, one is for gaming, the other for business. But what exactly does this mean in features. I could add QuickOffice to any N-Series: does this make it an E-Series? Is the 3D accelerator in the N95 needed for any game available now?

Regarding the phones:
I like the N96 for

  • large screen (for web browsing, Email, GPS ...)
  • great camera
  • iPod like scroll wheel D-pad
  • gaming capabilities

I like the E71 for

  • Full QUERTY keyboard
  • it is slim like the E51
  • probably better battery times (if it is mainly a stretched E71)

It is hard. I primarily need a smartphone for business use. So the keyboard of the E71 should weight more than all other criterias. But especially on business trips, I like some entertainment in the evening and try to keep the number of devices low.
With the N96, I could sell my iPod on eBay. Sure, the E71 will have have multimedia playback capabilities also.
Are there any notiable differences between both=
I just can't decide. Good, that I have some time left, until both are available.
Any help on my decision is appreciated...

I think you have answered by yourself. Nothing will be so good as qwerty but qwerty 😊.

But... If you can think of not having good way to type, N96 could be the choice in my opinion. Take a look at camera pictures of both phones before you buy. Take a look at plenty of them. There are many sites that compares few best phones including N95, i think that there will be about N96 as soon as it will be available.

I just can tell that almost everything in my N95 is cool but camera isnt my dreamed of and could be better. Maybe N96 will have better (do not be blinded by overall pixel count, most important is sensor size if you want not to have plenty of noise). Same about Nokia Maps software, I prefer Garmin. And (off topic) it could have a touch pad.

So, N96 should be like bugfix for N95, but will it be? And about E series, ask ppl who knows it better. You have now one opinion of one side 😊.

K.

By your own wants, its the E71. The qwerty and battery - 1500 I beleive - will swing it.

The E71 is going to last a lot longer, the N96 only has a 950 battery.

I wouldn't even think twice if E71 would have a 3.5mm mini jack and tv out. I love these things about my N95.
But I still have an E61 lying in my drawer and sometimes I'm very tempted to take it out for keyboard, battery life and big screen...But then I remember how it was pissing me off when the headset was disconnecting constantly in my pocket.
As I said before - make me a phone with all N95 features in E61i shape and I'll pay any money for it!

Thanks to all of you for your opinions!

Is there anything the N96 will be capable of, which could not be done on a E71 (even with additional software), exept for NGage gaming? And vice versa?

Any more opinions on this are highly welcome...

TIA

Arne

Is not to be sneezed at.

I'd consider getting the N96 or even the N95- 8G and buy an iGo (or OEM knock off) Bluetooth keyboard.

If you really need qwerty then this is the way to go.

If you need an all in one then I'd take a serious look at the E90, the superior screen alone makes it a good choice. but if you need more in the camera department N95 and N96 are where its at.

As I've said before I'm getting an N96 to replace my still usable 95-1 as and when it comes to market.

Good Luck! 😊

well i'm a fan of T9 myself. its way faster than qwerty and much easier to write. qwerty is so clunky and tedious and slow. but i wanna try out the e71 cause it sitll looks excellent. but yeah T9 plus bluetooth keyboard really is good.

and i dont understand why nokia bet the farm on mobile TV in the n96. its just not that impressive of a feature to me. we all have HSDPA phones now, and slingbox and other alternatives exist out there. they could have went with some othre WOW factor for the new flagship. here's one: how about triband HSDPA!! geez what a concept. sure there are qualcom lawsuits. but stop making the consumer suffer. manufacturing costs will go down and offset the licensing fees for multi band wCDMA just by simple fact of 1 production line. simplicity.

plus we all have our video podcasts now and on-the-go content that we can watch when we want from memory cards. mobile TV just doesnt seem like a smart move, ESPECIALLY when its gonna be so limited. hell i would take satellite radio receiver as an truly WOW factor that could have easily been throw in. at least its everywhere. though that's a problem of itself. XM and sirius in the US, and another across the atlantic. but at least it would be cool!

It's a pretty smart move on Nokia's part if you ask me to include DVB-H in the N96. At present Nokia, along with Samsung, LG, France Telecom, and the others who hold patents in DVB-H technology are offering discounted royalties to networks and developers who use the system. By introducing a mainstream handset with DVB-H functionality they're encouraging the quick uptake of the system.

It won't help us much in the UK because the frequencies required for DVB-H are not going to become widely available until about 2012 when the anologue to digital switchover occurs, but for the rest of europe this is going to help push the networks into providing the technology for its customers much sooner.

Aurial wrote:It won't help us much in the UK because the frequencies required for DVB-H are not going to become widely available until about 2012 when the anologue to digital switchover occurs, but for the rest of europe this is going to help push the networks into providing the technology for its customers much sooner.

Please excuse the rather lame question, but how exactly does this DVB-H work? What I'm getting at is is this essentially a mobile version of normal digital TV over the airwaves or does it use network bandwidth like the existing mobile TV stuff does? I'm guessing/hoping it's the former but I'm not sure....

Yeah it works a bit like normal digital tv, although to be more energy efficient for your handset it sends bursts of data, and is then idle for a time until it receives the next burst. It continues to play on screen because it receives a lot of data in that one packet.

It's better for your battery than over the network because it's not a continuous download as it is when you watch it over 3g now.

Aurial wrote:Yeah it works a bit like normal digital tv, although to be more energy efficient for your handset it sends bursts of data, and is then idle for a time until it receives the next burst. It continues to play on screen because it receives a lot of data in that one packet.

It's better for your battery than over the network because it's not a continuous download as it is when you watch it over 3g now.

Ahhh ok, so it's presumably not dependant on your network then (i.e. the service will be free)? Sounds good, and yes, TV over the network eats batteries.

Nope. DVB-H requires its own broadcast network, and devices must have a DVB-H receiver and related software/applications. Both must be in place (just the network is not enough, and neither is just having a DVB-H capable device, if there's no network).

The article you link to, as far as I can read, does not indicate anything else. It mentions a DVB-H channel package, and then that "by year-end the DVB-H network should cover all major domestic cities". And then it says the DVB-H offering supplements an UMTS (3G, WCDMA) offering (i.e., regular packet data video channel streaming, or video/programme downloads).

Yes, the link referred to channels potentially not being free. and also possibly being network specific (Hutchison 3G in this case). It's not really made clear there that users of other networks will be able to use it, but maybe they will.

The comment about possibly being sent over cellular networks was taken from Wikipedia DVB-H page.

Second paragraph of the "technical explanation":

DVB-H can offer a downstream channel at high data rates which can be used as standalone or as an enhancement of mobile telecommunication networks which many typical handheld terminals are able to access anyway.

From the "enhancement of mobile telecommunication networks" and "many typical handheld terminals are able to access anyway" bit, it also sounds like it can be network specific and not necessarily require its own broadcast network? Again, it's not very clear 😊

If you are looking for a business phone, get E71. Battery life is good. It lasts a day with continuous mail synchronisation and constant phone calls. My usage is heavy. My previous windows mobile phone used to last just half a day. If you use VoIP, I was amazed to see how well it works and found it to be really easy to setup.

It is disappointing that there is no 3.5mm jack and Camera is not great. They shouldn't have included a camera in the phone atleast no one would have complained. There are so many positives that you can easily forget these two negative points!

Looks wise, this is one of the best. It feels great in hand and the voice is very clear and the speaker is loud and clear.

I just love it..

OK, I had a N95-8GB for a few days. But I gave it back and bought the E71. I need a business phone, and while the N95 is the better multi media phone, the E71 is the better business phone for me.