Make sure you don't miss Serko Artinian's five part look, over at Symbian Guru, at the North American Nokia N95 8GB versus the (non-3G) Apple iPhone. Lots of good insight here. Links: Part 1 - Form Factor and Build Quality : Part 2 - Its GUI : Part 3 - Syncing And Connecting : Part 4 - Core Apps : Part 5 - Multimedia Computer or Feature phone?
Read on in the full article.
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If we are comparing like for like, then you must turn off javascript and flash on the S60 browser. You�ll be surprised how fast the S60 browser renders pages. iPhone supports neither flash or javascript�
Turning off javascript reduces rendering time by a significant margin.
Double check your facts since all the iPhones I've ever used do in fact support Javascript. They don't currently support traditional Java which is what I'm assuming you meant.
Yeah sorry, java is what I meant.
Iphone is starting to catch up: Nice but gimmicky user interface, low res camera and oversize form factor.
N95: Push button Operation.
So, what do you prefer? My personal preference is for the smaller more pocketable phone that can be operated using buttons one handed without having to look at the phone.
I tried an iPhone but they are actually slightly embarrassing and give a feeling of self-consciousness. They are starting to take on a bit of a geek stigma.
If the stylishness of the user interface was the be all and end all then I would be re-evaluating my life.
The thing to remember before we go bashing the iPhone for its form factor is the fact that most people who buy one would be carrying an iPod anyway. It's no bigger or smaller (really) than any of the previous or current iPods are (obviously I don't mean the Nano or Shuffle). Those people are going to be carrying less because now their phone is included in the same form factor. Remember that the iPod is the biggest selling MP3 player in the world so people are obviously happy to carry it with them.
The Iphone is a joy to use, it's just a shame that it's missing a few features which I consider important.
My N95 is a better tool at the moment, and it is my personal opinion that simple SMS messaging will ALWAYS be better with a keypad, since this allows one-handed use and is easier in busy, or bustling environments.
However web browsing is certainly better with a touchscreen and aside from its like of flash you really cannot fault the Iphone's browser OR its email client.
To attempt to suggest that the N95's browser compares in any way is frankly ludicrous - for one it is far easier to see and navigate on the Iphone's bigger screen and it renders pages MUCH quicker. It is also easier to scroll and zoom.
Now the 3g Iphone is on our shores I'm VERY tempted. There is no doubt that every known satnav company will now jump on the Iphone GPS bandwagon, there's already now a fully supported Google Maps, BBC Iplayer and OFFICIAL Youtube client. There's loads of new software being released every day.....it's just a shame the camera/video is still lacking else I'd be.....oh wait a minute I'd have to go on o2: on second thoughts I'll stick to my N95.
On the Subject:
HOW HOW HOOOOOW is it in Apple's interest to stock the Iphone ONLY through O2? I'm not a businessman but surely this is RESTRICTIVE?
Now with the release of the 3G model is it not even more restrictive to sell the Iphone through the one network provider with the LEAST experience in the 3G market????
Why not T-Mobile or Network 3?
I ask you....
It is a good idea to compare the N95 or even the N82 to the iPhone but at the end of the day, they are two completely different devices. Size, weight, form factors. The while the Nokia's and Apple's have commonality in some areas, in most others they are 180 degrees out. In its current state, the 3G iPhone will be impressive and take market share from Nokia. People may be willing to forgive its shortcomings in favor of the larger screen, iTunes integration, etc.... Time will tell, as we wait to see what Nokia has in response.
nice review, now i am more confident of having my N95-8gb around
i agree that most iphone users only think that buying an iphone is like a step up in more ways than one, however, i doubt some of those people even know what they iphone are capable of! lol, so i reckon S60 isn't all that bad, it's still very user friendly and way more open with 3rd party apps.
They're only selling it on O2 because they signed a two year contract with them for the release of the original iPhone. This was for O2's Edge network and their implimentation of the Visual Voicemail system along with the heavy subsidies O2 had to pay Apple every month for it's iPhone contracts. Once the two years are up expect to see it available on other networks. It's going to be available sim-free in Australia and some other countries when it launches.
The fact that O2 no longer have to pay Apple subsidies every month now means that they can subsidise the price of the phone for its customers. Buying a 16GB iPhone is about �100 cheaper now than buying a 16GB iPod Touch.
Thats because you dont have to have an 18 month contract with a touch.
18 * 30 = �540
Which doesnt come anywhere near what it costs the network for the included texts, calls and data.
That's my point exactly, they're subsidising it. You're gonna be charged line rental no matter what phone you take and the line rental they're charging sounds about right for what they're offering.
T-Mobile tried to charge me �100 for my N95 when I got it, on top of an 18 month �35 tariff + �7.50 web and walk = �765
At least they bundle the data with the iPhone. Sure I get slightly more in terms of texts at the moment but I could pay another �7 to O2 and pay the same as I'm paying now and get 600 mins, unlimited texts and unlimited browsing.
My point was that they are subsidising the iPhone now to the extent that you can pick it up �100 cheaper than the Touch. This is going to make it more appealable to people might've been in the market for a Touch.
Unregistered wrote:Double check your facts since all the iPhones I've ever used do in fact support Javascript. They don't currently support traditional Java which is what I'm assuming you meant.
Yup, it's Java applets (and, currently, MIDlets) that aren't supported on the iPhone - as has also been explained in my W3C speech article. (You all may want to follow the Bibles and articles I cross-post to the N95 forum here.) It has excellent JavaScript.
sapporobaby wrote:It is a good idea to compare the N95 or even the N82 to the iPhone but at the end of the day, they are two completely different devices. Size, weight, form factors. The while the Nokia's and Apple's have commonality in some areas, in most others they are 180 degrees out. In its current state, the 3G iPhone will be impressive and take market share from Nokia. People may be willing to forgive its shortcomings in favor of the larger screen, iTunes integration, etc.... Time will tell, as we wait to see what Nokia has in response.
I'm pretty much disappointed with the 3G iPhone. No front camera? No A2DP?!? Come on Apple!
leoni1980 wrote:BBC Iplayer and OFFICIAL Youtube client.
Symbian S60 already has several very good YouTube clients. See my YouTube Bible at http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum//forum/thread/72048/