i want to talk about Islam but my english is not that good and i'm not good enough to talk about it.
i may do more harm than good
but i'll say one thing:
Islam is noy just a religion it's a way of life
(Comment) The end of the world as we know it?
[quote="Hera"]>Both. I have master degree in international relations (Middle East specialization) and my grandpa is WW2 veteran. You?[/quote]
Check my Username, if you have the power of knowledge, you know what and who I am. I won't tell you details because you wouldn't believe me anyway but I am what I am.
Regarding religions: look back at the history and you learn how many were killed in the name of god. Religion should be something positive, something to influence people to do good and help others.
I know that some of you are kiddies from islamic states or with islamic background. But then you shouldn't use the Internet, an "evil" American invention. You shouldn't wear Jeans, an "evil" jewish American invention. And you definetely shouldn't speak English, English is the language of the "evil". 😉
C'mon, kiddies...grow up and learn. Learn from History, learn from adults and learn from people who walked over dozens of dead bodies and know things you couldn't even imagine. I wonder why I loose my time here, just wanted to talk about my 3650 MIL version I got from Nokia for testing. But maybe this place isn't quite the right place. I need adults to talk to, not kiddies. :bday:
Shall we run a sweepstake on whether or not KSK can formulate an argument that doesn't resort to childish flames calling everyone kiddie or ignoring the blatently obvious?
[quote="KSK"]Check my Username, if you have the power of knowledge, you know what and who I am. I won't tell you details because you wouldn't believe me anyway but I am what I am.[/quote]
You are a guest, and in this case, someone who either doesn't want to reveal their identity because they know they cannot argue their corner without resorting to insults so hides behind the banner or anonymity where real thought needn't apply.
Anywho big up this thread, my most popular comment yet! I knew I'd manage a good one. 😉
[quote="SwitchBlade"]Shall we run a sweepstake on whether or not KSK can formulate an argument that doesn't resort to childish flames calling everyone kiddie or ignoring the blatently obvious?[/quote]
Obvious? Well, it is pretty obvious for me that I have to deal with kiddies. Adults can't be that blind. 😉 Telling the truth means flaming? Ah, right...I see. You want arguments? Well, talk to a dog using arguments...I'm sure he listens but does he understand? 😉 :bday:
It is easy to be against something because you don't have to use your brain. Obvious things are seldom really obvious, trust me.
Does Iraq have weapons of mass destruction? Of course it does. And the fun part is: most people opposing the Bush/Blair actions know that. But they don't care, they want peace, not "war for oil" (I guess nobody is using a car and nobody uses fuel...oh well, I see...).
In Germany, german police just arrested three men (one of them a German of Iraqi descent) trying to build parts for a scud rocket launch system and send the illegaly to Iraq. Oh, I forgot: Iraq doesn't have Scuds anymore...so they need these launch system units for the microwave ovens in the local restaurants...I see. 😉
C'mon guys, don't be shy: if you're anti-American say it and don't try to find excuses. No problem with me, I'm anti-Iraq but at least I confess it. 😊
Now I go to bed, I have work to do tomorrow. I guess I'm the only one here anywhere right now...kiddies already went to sleep. :angel:
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Regarding religions: look back at the history and you learn how many were killed in the name of god. Religion should be something positive, something to influence people to do good and help others.
I know that some of you are kiddies from islamic states or with islamic background. But then you shouldn't use the Internet, an "evil" American invention. You shouldn't wear Jeans, an "evil" jewish American invention. And you definetely shouldn't speak English, English is the language of the "evil".
I wouldn't be talking about religions if I we were you, talk about your own religion, and don't talk about others, because you don't have the least shallowest idea about Islam, i'm a muslim, i know WAY better than you 😃
(so does Hera! It seems she can teach you a lesson or two in history 😃)
Well in our religion, it doesn't say "since something is from the other side of the fence, don't use it!" from what you're saying that was the verdict! LOL!
People here never said internet was "evil" though it's american, but that's not the view of islam, what is good, it's okay, what's bad, it's not! Even if it came from the deepest darkest corner of the most hated place from islam, is it good? Yeah, well it's okay.
And that is right, think about it, what if you had a huge conflict with your neighbor, and he used spoons, will you be eating soup with a fork? Sure you can drink it, but will you still deny using the spoon just because you'll be "low" or lose your dignity if you used it? Well that's nonsense. And the internet is really good, it's a sea of knowledge! (and ofcourse there's bad stuff) Then there's jeans, KSK, are you crazy? EVERYONE WEARS JEANS!! That was so stupid of you! Your'e supposed to be an 'adult' or whatever, but what harm can be done by wearing jeans? (Wearing denim makes you look fat?! :P)
lol! 😃 Well in Islam it does say something about copying others, about nonmuslims, it says not to copy them in the bad habits they do, when you said jeans is evil, it's like you're saying "and pillows are evil" jeans is a very common thing! That's a stupid excuse you got there! (in my opinion) saying jeans is evil 😃 nobody ever said that here!! We're not allowed to copy their bad habits, and anything that could lead to their bad habits.
And finally english, english is way more good than evil. Hell! It's the most common used language on earth! It's number one on the language scale! And you know what? Our prophet told us to learn other country's langauges, and any muslim knows that. It's stupid to not know english and sit in the middle of the 21st century while everybody else is talking english, you'll have no way of communication, (you would'nt even be able to know the hot water from the cold :P)
I think it's more than obvious, now we know who the real Kind Smart Kiddie is :roll: (notice that the first two words are sarcasm, and the last isn't 😃)
I'm not trying to change people's lives here, i'm trying to spray WD-40 on the rusted view of people to islam that is already falling apart. 😃
here is a quote from Marshall Brian in How Stuff Works:
It's fascinating -- given that one billion people worldwide are members of the Islamic faith, including millions of people in the United States, it's amazing how little the average American knows about this religion and what it stands for.
Islam or any other religion, a person should and never be judged with his religious affiliation. Unless we all agree and accept that there a Christian murderers/rapist/thief and the same for Muslim murderers/rapist/thief the world ain't gonna be better one bit. It should start with all of us accepting the fact that human nature is evil and religion does little good in influencing it.
But we must also all agree in one very very essential point in this discussion, Islam or Christianity should never never be used as an excuse. So speak up people you have seen the "Abu Sayyaf" (Philippines) they claim Jihad they claim "Allah Akbar" but what do they do? So is it an accepted fact that this group uses Islam in a very very twisted way. If you agree to this then, you are part of the civilized and sane world.
How about the massacre of Christians in East Timor by Muslims, this I can't comprehend really so anybody here could enlighten me please do so.
That's a shame I thought KSK might stop flaming with the sweepstake going on, never mind. Lets all just throw insults at people with differing opinions because it is the supposedly "adult" way? Erm, since when, lol!
As for 😊 comments on Islam, they'll tear down your religion however they can, Christianity is the dominant religion in the west and they've been tearing it down for centuries. It all boils down to the governments don't want people having gods, as they don't want people believing in something more powerful than they are. Hence North Korea where their president is viewed as a god who makes the sun rise and crops grow etc, and they have no religion other than to praise him.
Laura, SwitchBlade, 😊 - thank you for support 😉 😊
To KSK
>Check my Username, if you have the power of knowledge, you know what and who I am. I won't tell you details because you wouldn't believe me anyway but I am what I am.
Some special forces. So what? It doesn't prove your statements about history and US right to invade sovereign countries.
>Regarding religions: look back at the history and you learn how many were killed in the name of god. Religion should be something positive, something to influence people to do good and help others.
Exactly. Religion itself IS something positive, but there are people who can find excuse for killing others in ANY religion.
BTW, Islam is ~ 15 hundred years old. Do you remember how many people were killed in the name of God when Christianity was the same age? (I'm Christian if it matters)
>I know that some of you are kiddies from islamic states or with islamic background. But then you shouldn't use the Internet, an "evil" American invention. You shouldn't wear Jeans, an "evil" jewish American invention. And you definetely shouldn't speak English, English is the language of the "evil".
Does it mean that America will not use "evil" Arab inventions? Let's take the most common one - Arabic numerals. BTW, "algebra" as a word came from Arabs. I do not mention here French, Russian, English, German and other European inventions, as they're not considered "evil".
>Learn from History, learn from adults and learn from people who walked over dozens of dead bodies and know things you couldn't even imagine.
People who walked over dozens of dead bodies do not boast of it.
>just wanted to talk about my 3650 MIL version I got from Nokia for testing
3650 military version???? The one positioned by Nokia as a fashion phone for 'adolescents'?? 😃 😃 Let me know if they send you N-Gage MIL as well :roll: 😃
About American music - I do prefer French one and Italian (though hardly understand anything 😞 )
[quote="SwitchBlade"]Shall we run a sweepstake [/quote]
Sorry, SwitchBlade, I couldn't help posting my commnet 😃
after my heart i swear
man is it hot in here or what
i'll say one thing
Hera CAN talk 8)
In alot of languages too!! 😉
she has my support all the way
Well since you're here, can you translate what Link posted above? :S
[quote="😊"]Well since you're here, can you translate what Link posted above? :S[/quote]
i'v got nothing to with it 😃
you brits are not better trained then us american soldiers...you are just jealous......suckers.......without us you are not shit for a country......and are our puppets...... :black:
americans did what they have to do....people from all over the world want peace and i think that's what do americans like to have. terrorists must be accountable on every bad act they did. it's not about taking over the world but what do americans deserve is justice for all those innocent people being killed 😊 😊
It seems that not all Americans agree with you(Neither do I)those innocent people were killed by osama bin laden,not saddam Hussein,what about the innocent Iraqi people who died I don't even want to start what bill Clinton and America has done to my and couple of neighbour countries
John Soros has donated 10 Million dollars to some organization in order to support them in their battle against the re-election of Bush.
ahhhh!! not this again!!! :-?
[quote="GhostDog"]It seems that not all Americans agree with you(Neither do I)those innocent people were killed by osama bin laden,not saddam Hussein,what about the innocent Iraqi people who died I don't even want to start what bill Clinton and America has done to my and couple of neighbour countries
John Soros has donated 10 Million dollars to some organization in order to support them in their battle against the re-election of Bush.[/quote]
i respect your opinion. we all long for world peace and i think it will take time to make it realized. 😊
I would advice people to see the documentary: "Bowling for Columbine", which contains alot of historical facts about the USA and their war politics.
I don't think the USA have ever started or engaged in a war without having some kind of financial interest in it.
I also think most intelligent people will see that the USA acting as the "world police" is simply WRONG!