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Nokia N96 vs HTC Touch HD vs Apple iPhone 3G

42 replies · 8,527 views · Started 10 December 2008

I cant read the article because the web browser said "Zero response"...whats that? am using Mozilla Firefox. Help me please.

about the article...HTC Touch HD's main disadvantage for me is the Windows Mobile OS. i will use it only when i have to choose between WM or SE dumpphones cauz i have phobia from T,K,S,C and other SE dumpphones "especially those considered high end phones by SE".

N96...dizaztaaaaar.....firmware will fix it..but when? soon 5800 will be available and we will use it with 16gb memory card.

iPhone?...not a dumpphone..but who agree with me if i say its not a real smartphone?

I cant read the article because the web browser said "Zero response"...whats that? am using Mozilla Firefox. Help me please.

about the article...HTC Touch HD's main disadvantage for me is the Windows Mobile OS. i will use it only when i have to choose between WM or SE dumpphones cauz i have phobia from T,K,S,C and other SE dumpphones "especially those considered high end phones by SE".

N96...dizaztaaaaar.....firmware will fix it..but when? soon 5800 will be available and we will use it with 16gb memory card.

iPhone?...not a dumpphone..but who agree with me if i say its not a real smartphone?

"Errr... Exactly *where* do you think you can get an iPhone 'SIM Free' for �350 plus Unlimited Data for a year?
I presume you mean PAYG on O2?"

Ahem. Yes, "SIM-free" was a bad choice of term. I meant 'free of monthly contract fees". Well, I know what I meant, anyway. 8-)

Unregistered wrote:"But I got the things, which I do on a business smartphone, done in a fraction of time on a Symbian device (and only need one hand)."

Don't suppose you would care to expand on that with specifics ?
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i.e. Go with HD/similar, hang out for N97 or even wait for next gen iPhone/Android.

Sure. I mostly use my Smarphone for (surprise, surprise) making phone calls. 2nd is SMS, Email and Calendar. Other things I do, but not so often are reading RSS-Feeds, taking photos and GPS navigation. And not to forget: carrying it around. Having a phone that is so slim and light, that I can carry it in the front pocket of my shirt is a big plus for me.

As a former Palm Treo user, I used an E51 since the beginning of the year (my first Symbian device) and upgraded to a E71 as soon at it has been available. For comparision, I used a HTC Touch Pro and the older TyTN II Kaiser for some weeks, just because I thought that Symbian is missing some bells and whistles. The iPhone is out of scope for me for several reasons. It comes at an absurd price or with a contract that I definitely don't want (or both). And I don't want to ask Steve Jobs, what Software he allows me to use on my phone, especially as some essential functionality is missing (eg. Internet connection sharing). So I thought, I try some of these HTC pimped Windows mobile devices.

After some weeks of working with both, I found out that for my all day usage they mostly require more fiddling around than I was used to. I tried to work around with additional software. Eg. I replaced TouchFlow with SPB Shell. Though TouchFlow 3D offers some real eye candy, I found it mostly useless. Eg. the picture dial tab requires much fidlling around, it is hard to get the contact you want. Don't try this in a car while driving. As much as I tried to get to like these flashy devices, at the end I realized that nearly everything I do is more effort that I was used to on any of my former devices.

So what am I doing faster on my E71?
Basically everything, because the wm devices are overall much slower, though the Touch Pro has a faster CPU and more memory. Pressing a key often gives you a second to wait, before something happens. The E71 is much more responsive.
2nd to that, some examples:

Dial a number: I have all my number keys assigned as short dials. Just from the standby screen I press and hold a number and got the number dialed. For any other contacts, I start typing on the standby screen and immediately got a list of matching contacts. Typically, after not more than 4 key presses, I see the contact I want in the result list. WM 6.1 has learned this trick also, but if you use TouchFlow or SPB Shell, it won't work. You first have to start the contacts or dialing application, then start typing, which costs you some seconds. The same is for SMS or write an email to a contact.

Check a calendar entry: I often need to check my agenda for a specific day. On the E71, I press the calendar button, then navigate to the day in the month view and see my dates right of the month view. Now if I want to see a different day, I just need to move the cursor to it and see the dates. Just for starting the calendar, I need to fiddle around in wm's Start menu or use the touch screen. I often felt, that for getting a decent speed I need to switch between keyboard and touch screen very often. Startup time for wm's calendar is also higher. Now for check the agenda of a special day requires to move between month view and day view. There are other calendar programs, which are capable to show the day's entries in a combined month/day view, but these start even slower.
I think, I could spend the whole night finding more examples, but it is time to go to bed 😉
After all, switching back to my good old E71 gave me a good feeling.

Choosing a smartphone is like choosing a car. There is not the one that fits everyones needs best. For now, the E71 is the best choice for me (but I saw the pictures of the coming N97 ... nice 😉

I would go with the HTC Touch HD. Camera and video quality is decent and blows away the iPhone. Opera mobile browser is also okay and full flash support is availble through the download of the skyfire browser on windows mobile. Touch Flo 3D makes tasks easy for finger use and it is a very attractive phone with a great screen and high resolution which is brilliant for watching videos, viewing photos and web browsing. The iPhone lacks in basic features such as copy and paste, Bluetooth, mms and more and the Nokia seems too fat and ugly for me.

The touch HD has a very poor camera given its high megapixel rating. It performs dismally in low light conditions and offers awful quality video. The iPhone on the other hand performs much better in low light and does far better quality video.

For all those who wish to record video on the iPhone - Cycorder

For those that want true picture messaging - SwirlyMMS

For those who want full cut and paste - safari plugin and copierCIN

And contact forwarding and other messaging features - IrealSMS

Wifi connection sharing - PDAnet

Bluetooth would be nice, but is completely nonessential to most people. The Touch HD is not a contender and would be laughed at by most consumers as such: its only Market is those who can't move away from winmo but crave some iPhone style features.

I just want to clarify my previous post.

It is as a media-centric USABLE phone that the iPhone shines - anyone can use it. The same cannot be said of the Touch HD (and windows mobile devices generally) since under the hood they have a very clunky and out-of-date UI.

The iPhone has a dedicated Myspace and Facebook app with chat support, Dedicated BBC Iplayer support, podcast downloading over the air, quick and intuitive web browsing, an iPod built in, A slick and thoroughly friendly Google Maps application and just thousands of slick and lovely apps that can easily be downloaded straight to the phone, EASILY and with no real experience needed. windows mobile just doesn't have this.

Sure there are some apps with similar features to those on the Iphone available for windows Mobile but they just arent as good. Even Google Maps is not as nice to use on my Diamond as it is on my iPhone.

There is definitely a market for windows mobile, but I don't think that there is a real Market for the Touch HD - it just doesn't perform when it comes to video acceleration, nor does it offer anything that the iPhone doesn't have other than Bluetooth. The very fact that companies try to make phones that mimic the feel of the iPhone is testament to the quality of the device.

I love the iPhone, and I laugh at the idea that a phone such as the HD (or even my own Touch Diamond) can compete in the same Market. That is not to say that i'm any kind of Apple fanboy though - I'm always on the lookout for new phones and as soon as a better one comes along I'll get it. The Touch HD isn't it though, and the N96 is just too similar to my N95 to be worth the money.

This website just gets more silly by the day. Ok, I'd expect you to be biased towards Symbian devices but this is just ridiculous. The N96 doesn't come close to the iPhone, and the Touch HD totally blows both out of the water.

It's time to admit that Nokia have seriously lost the plot over the last year. The N97 really should have been released by the time the iPhone 3G came out, they are now way behind both HTC and Apple.

And just out of curiosity, why does everyone hate Windows Mobile? I upgraded from an N95 to an HTC Touch Diamond.....I really cant see myself ever owning a Nokia/Symbian device again.

Hd has way better quality showing youtube videos
its warm to hold not like iphone, so cold and slippery

i have rigt now experia ,iphone and htc hd and im selling x1 and iphone
the best is hd

I'm on Orange and am due an upgrade. I've currently got an N95 8gb, however the N96 doesn't interest me. I'm an apple user and love the functionality and aesthetics of their products, so I'm thinking I want an Iphone. However short of buying one Sim free it doesn't look like I'm going to get one with Orange! (They suck! Vodaphone's Storm looks pretty good too!)

I've read the reviews and although there's mixed responses I'm beginning to think I'm not going to be satisfied by the Touch... Am I right in thinking this? I've been with Orange a good while, am happy with my tariff and think their Orange Care is second to none so don't want to leave. Should I just get the HD, Sell it and invest in a PAYG Iphone 3G?

leoni1980 wrote:The touch HD has a very poor camera given its high megapixel rating. It performs dismally in low light conditions and offers awful quality video. The iPhone on the other hand performs much better in low light and does far better quality video.

For all those who wish to record video on the iPhone - Cycorder

For those that want true picture messaging - SwirlyMMS

For those who want full cut and paste - safari plugin and copierCIN

And contact forwarding and other messaging features - IrealSMS

Wifi connection sharing - PDAnet

Bluetooth would be nice, but is completely nonessential to most people. The Touch HD is not a contender and would be laughed at by most consumers as such: its only Market is those who can't move away from winmo but crave some iPhone style features.

You have to give the Touch HD more credit. I am trying it out and its fantastic so far. The Iphone is nice but there are too many apps required for some basic stuff like SMS. Why should i use three SMS apps?

Also the screen on the Touch HD is very nice. The high res realy is nice for browsing, email and attachments. I think WinMo needs more work but TouchFlo is pretty much what makes me really like the device!

having worked with both ,i can say ,hd is more proffesional than iphone ,.
symbian is a good platfoorm ,but for nobbies !