According to a report on mobiletoday.co.uk, Sony has refused to let Sony Ericsson use the PlayStation brand on its phones. Sony Ericsson (a separate company jointly owned by Sony and Ericsson) apparently asked Sony for permission to use the "PlayStation" name as a sub-brand on their devices, in much the same way they have already used Sony's "Walkman", "Cybershot" and "Bravia". (via Eurogamer.net)
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come on seriously you guys read this wrong. All it means is that when sony actually does want to release the "psphone", they want it to be done properly as a joint venture vetween SE and sony's playstation division. If they allow SE to just throw the "playstation" name onto some half ast gaming SE phone it will tarnish the trademark and ruin the prospects for the real psphone.
@Unregistered, nicely put. Thats exactly what i was thinking....
come on seriously you guys read this wrong.
Read what wrong?
All it means is that when sony actually does want to release the "psphone", they want it to be done properly as a joint venture vetween SE and sony's playstation division.
The article doesn't mention the PlayStation division at all, the phrase "Joint Venture" refers to Sony Ericsson itself (which is a joint venture between Sony and Ericsson, two independent companies).
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying this particular article doesn't support your theory.
AFAIK there's no direct evidence for Sony's intentions about a Playstation Phone, though a lot of people have rumoured they want to do it on their own without SE. But that would be pretty tough to do, especially in this financial crisis. Setting up an entire phone division just to do a games device would probably lose a lot of money as games devices don't sell in very large numbers (mobile phones sell over 1000 million a year, games consoles only sell about 50 million a year). The only thing that would make sense is if Sony started making ordinary mobile phones themselves, as they're the type of phone that makes the most money, but Sony didn't do very well at that last time they tried, and that's why Sony Ericsson was set up in the first place.
Tzer2 wrote:Read what wrong?The article doesn't mention the PlayStation division at all, the phrase "Joint Venture" refers to Sony Ericsson itself (which is a joint venture between Sony and Ericsson, two independent companies).
I know the article doesn't mention the playstation, and what was ment by "joint venture". What I'm saying is, when Sony makes the psphone, it will be a joint venture between Sony (the parent company and specifically their playstation division) and Sony Ericsson (the company half owned by both sony and ericsson).
Tzer2 wrote:
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying this particular article doesn't support your theory.AFAIK there's no direct evidence for Sony's intentions about a Playstation Phone, though a lot of people have rumoured they want to do it on their own without SE.
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I'm not advocating them doing it without SE, it would be stupid to not use SE's expertise. I'm just saying that Sony won't allow SE to tarnish the "playstation" brand by throwing onto a "gaming phone" made without any input from Sony's playstation division.
And I think a psphone is as certain as the iphone was. Highly speculated about and wanted is a winning formula.
Unregistered wrote:
And I think a psphone is as certain as the iphone was. Highly speculated about and wanted is a winning formula.
I don't. The PSP might have sold reasonably well, and the DS even better, but you cannot get a decent gaming system into a phone, or vice versa. The dimensions just make it impossible.
You either end up with something that works ok as a phone, but badly as a gaming device because its too small, or its ok as a gaming device but so hideous as a phone no-one wants to use it as one.
C'mon, how many people didn't feel stupid putting their Ngage up to their ear in public?
Tzer2 u r so hopelessly out of touch or is that depth?
Anyone with half a brain would have noticed the licence PowerVR signed with Sony last year (not mentioned by name but all key commentators have agreed its Sony!) and have come to the conclusion that PSP2 will be in development. Whether this then features phone functionality of not is another question but Sony are less keen on Ericsson involvement and are likely to go it alone.
Tzer2 u r so hopelessly out of touch or is that depth?
Maybe you should read the rest of this reply... 😉
Anyone with half a brain would have noticed the licence PowerVR signed with Sony last year
Anyone with half a brain would have noticed that there was nothing about that in the article, and this news item is about the article.
In any case, licences don't mean that much in the phone world, a lot of technologies are licensed, patented, announced, registered etc without ever being used. I think Nintendo registered a patent on a gaming phone in about 2001, but that never appeared.
Whether this then features phone functionality of not is another question
ROFL! And you accuse me of being out of touch... 😊
No, it's NOT another question.
In fact whether this has phone functionality or not is actually THE question, if you're talking about who will make a PlayStation phone. Otherwise it's just another PS console, and not of interest to this website (which is a phone site, in case you hadn't noticed).
What I'm saying is, when Sony makes the psphone, it will be a joint venture between Sony (the parent company and specifically their playstation division) and Sony Ericsson (the company half owned by both sony and ericsson).
And your evidence for that is...? Or is this just another rumour with no evidence at all?
The article in the link actually implies that Sony want to break their partnership with Sony Ericsson, which goes against what you're claiming.
And I think a psphone is as certain as the iphone was. Highly speculated about and wanted is a winning formula.
Not a winning formula by any means, the total sales potential for dedicated gaming devices is actually very low.
Even if you add up all the sales of all gaming consoles, it comes to about 50 million a year. That's about 5% of annual mobile phone sales, and that's assuming that EVERYONE who previously bought a home or portable console switched to a PSPhone, which isn't going to happen. A lot of people talk about gaming on internet forums and blogs, but when you look at the numbers console sales are actually very low compared to other kinds of devices.
Being realistic, at best a PSPhone would get perhaps 1% or 2% of the phone market, which is more or less what the iPhone has got. At worst there may be no interest at all, as people tend to buy phones for totally different reasons to gaming consoles.
No one has ever successfully launched a gaming-oriented phone, so there's no way of knowing if there even is a market for such a thing. The last attempt, the N-Gage and QD sold about 1 million a year which is approx 0.1% market share.
yea i agree that it would look preaty stupid to hold a gaming device up to your ear to talk. And it just would not work to have a gaming device as small as a phone. But now a days who dosent use bluetooth? I think it would be great if the psp phone came with a bluetooth noice canceling headset or something like that would be killer. Mabey also some voice comand capabilities.