Bought a Nokia 5800 XpressMusic? Before you do anything, read All About Symbian's guide to your first steps with the phone. Tzer2 has written the article with ordinary people in mind and tried to keep jargon to a minimum, but hopefully even advanced phone users should find something useful in it.
Read on in the full article.
Nice guide. I almost have bought Nokia 5800 but lucky Nokia launched N97 before 5800 available in shop, so I wait as I mostly prefer phones with keyboard or at least keypad
great article I've been blogging my ongoing findings at
my next task is to attempt to move over purchases I made on my E71 in the nokia music store to the 5800, and use my free voucher. All hopefully without the aid of a pc.
wish me luck
Great! I just bought a red 5800, it's now in the box and will be released from its prison this evening. I am very very curious, because I have never used a Symbian device, only Palm and WinMo smartphones. I know 'touch', but not Symbian, so it's going to be an adventure. Great article that applies 100% to me.
I kind of like the notion, being promoted by Jonathan Greene and Ricky Cadden, of being prompted on a new handset for your Ovi/Nokia credentials, after operator setup, and once authenticated having contacts and appointments automatically populated from Ovi Sync, and other Ovi services (Share and Chat/Contacts on Ovi for example) automatically configured if you've already subscribed to them.
If you didn't already have an Ovi/Nokia account, you could be asked if you want to create one (with, of course, the option to not create one).
All from the handset.
Ref:
Symbian-guru.com - "ovi account needs to be integrated into the phone"
Atmasphere.net - "What we can learn from Android - looking at YOU Nokia!"
It's a good idea and you are already prompted to do something similar when accessing some services (for example the e-mail section of messaging, or share online). Promoting Ovi like that might cause problems with competition laws though, especially as Nokia has such a vast market share compared to its competitors.
If they did have auto-prompting it might be best if it offered to sync with a range of similar services, which is what it already does with the Share Online app (it has Ovi, Flickr and Vox with the option of adding more).
Tzer2 wrote:Promoting Ovi like that might cause problems with competition laws though, especially as Nokia has such a vast market share compared to its competitors.If they did have auto-prompting it might be best if it offered to sync with a range of similar services, which is what it already does with the Share Online app (it has Ovi, Flickr and Vox with the option of adding more).
Perhaps, yes, though Google's Android (at least T-Mobile's version) does a similar thing with Google's services on initial startup.
I thought Android was meant to be a neutral platform, rather than a way to advertise Google's services?
After all, S60 doesn't advertise Nokia's services when it's on non-Nokia phones...
Sadly the 5800 doesn't support ovi contacts syncing - it was the first thing i tried.
after the positive set up on google/iphone. Though I had to get spanning sync to make my actual contacts / calendar work with google.
The 5800 feels like a testing ground for the 5th edition, with less demanding users - which is a wise strategy. It certainly the fastest S60 device I've used.
I think the 5800 is definitely trying a lot of things out, as you'd expect from the first device of a new generation.
But it is also an extremely low price for what you're getting, half the price of most other touchphones. It's a good value package and I suspect it will be the best-selling Symbian device of 2009.
Power users might want to wait for the N97 though, and of course there will be more S60v5 models after that.
I think auto Ovi setup would be a smart idea.
Is it true that the 5800 cannot sync with Ovi? Does it not support SyncML?
I went to try out the new 5800 two days ago but was disappointed. OMG, I still need to use a stylus which reminds me of my old Motorola A1000 and SE P900. Nokia may still be the leader in the smartphone market but it is just way behind Apple in building really innovative product.
OMG, I still need to use a stylus
No you don't, I haven't touched the stylus since I got mine.
You can use the 5800 entirely with fingers. And you can use the 5800 holding it in just one hand too, something most touch devices can't manage.
I think the problem is some people hold it with one hand and prod the screen with the other hand, but that's not really what it was designed for.
The 5800 works best if you hold it like a normal mobile phone and press the buttons with the same hand's thumb, just like you'd do with a normal phone's keypad. The screen is narrow enough that your thumb should be able to reach all of it.
Nokia may still be the leader in the smartphone market but it is just way behind Apple in building really innovative product.
Try carrying your shopping while using an iPhone. 😊
Being serious, I think the iPhone is a computer first and a phone second, while the 5800 is a phone first and a computer second. The 5800's default standby screen is oriented entirely around contacts and communication, while the iPhone's default standby screen is more to do with the built-in applications. Neither approach is better than the other, they're just two alternative ways of making smartphones.
They're also radically different prices, the iPhone costs literally twice as much as the 5800, so they're not really direct competitors anyway. If you want to make comparisons you probably ought to wait for the N97 which is more in the iPhone's price league.
Tzer2 wrote:I thought Android was meant to be a neutral platform, rather than a way to advertise Google's services?
Android is open source so if you want to take what has been released so far, write/buy add device drivers for your chosen hardware, etc... you can make a Yahoo! or Microsoft Live phone with it if you really want to.
However if you want to any support, e.g. marketing dollars, joint press releases or just using the Google logo in your promotional material, then dropping Google's services from your device seems unlikely to make you many friends in the Googleplex! (Just an observation from living in a capitalist regime.)
And the step missing from the list?
Check to make sure you dont have a model thats got a gap in it.
Top right corner, on the side where the front and back join.
Mine was very snug, but after a week of use, its showing a gap like many others.
"Top right corner, on the side where the front and back join. "
This is caused by the stylus getting the wrong side of the catch that holds it in. Take the back off and bend the tiny piece of metal up a bit so the Stylus doesn't slide over and push the back out.
I had to show the Carphone Warehouse staff how to do this.
This phone is amazing, surpassed all my expectations, I only bought it to try it out, already I think it will be my main carry.
One thing that is really special about it, something very fundamental, it gets 4 bars of signal in places where my N95 was getting one or none. And its' small and light enough to pocket, unlike the Cupertino flagstone.
Unregistered wrote:"Top right corner, on the side where the front and back join. "This is caused by the stylus getting the wrong side of the catch that holds it in. Take the back off and bend the tiny piece of metal up a bit so the Stylus doesn't slide over and push the back out.
I had to show the Carphone Warehouse staff how to do this.
I'll try that, but Im almost certain thats not the problem. Others have taken it apart and found theres no catch anywhere near that point. It looks like its just coming apart.
Edit: Thats far away from the actual problem, and would not affect it. I cant see how the clip you mention could be out of place unless it was seriously bent.
I've seen one bent so that the point of the stylus went the wrong side of it and caused the back to bow out. The stylus should go under and then the little metal clip clicks into a groove on the stylus.
Just for the record, I haven't had this problem with my 5800, and neither have the other AAS staff as far as I'm aware. But Nokia have shipped over 1 million 5800s so far, so different people may have different experiences.
In general, if you have a phone that's defective when you open the box, it's the shop that is responsible for a repair or replacement. Try to take the phone back to the shop as soon as you spot the problem. Don't use the phone, just take it back.
I bought a phone with part of the casing missing in the box, I took it back to the shop and they replaced it with a new one.
The only thing that manufacturers are responsible for are problems that appear through normal use.
Hi Tzer2, do you notice that the interface of 5800 is still very stylus-centric and not consistent throughout the software. For example, you slide your finger down in the phone menus to scroll down like you would with a stylus, but in the Web browser, you slide your finger up instead similar to the iPhone's interface. This is confusing and you need some time to get use to it.
Unregistered, you only "slide up" when you're viewing content such as web pages, photos, documents etc, and that's because you're moving something about that is too large to fit on the screen.
Actual menus scrolling downwards when you reach the bottom is consistent with most computers, for example, scrolling menus on Windows, Ubuntu, OS X etc.
the interface of 5800 is still very stylus-centric
I would disagree, I honestly don't use the stylus at all.
This is the first touchscreen device that I've been able to use 100% with just one hand.
Just bought a Nokia 5800 when people call me just their number appears even though they are stored in my contacts, I know it must be something to do with the settings but cant work out how to fix it... any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.