How keep IMAP4 connections alive?

For number 2, the E71 can't do this natively. Try looking in the Download application for Birdstep Smartconnect. Nokia released this free for E series phones and should offer the functionality you desire.

True, I've noticed threads on this subject and now I have SmartConnect.The only issue now is to make Messages app connect to mailboxes once it was disconnected, or automatically on startup... That would be great.
Frankly I wouldn't like to be forced to install secondary Messaging/Email app...
Anyway - thanks for hint 😊

I'm a bit late with my comments but...

I have tried a number of third party email applications and none of them are as good as Chatteremail+ on my PalmOS Treo, so for the time being I have gone back to the standard application. I have my Gmail account set to check every two hours and it doesn't tend to keep itself logged in automatically, but if I tell it to connect, it'll do so. When it's checking every 30 minutes, it spends a lot longer connected.

You might want to try the Nokia Messenger application. It's the closest I've found to what I really wanted. I'm still toying with the idea of reinstalling the application again! :tongue: This application keeps your email in push mode for you. For me, well I don't _need_ push email functionality as I too easily get addicted to it 🙄 so I'm happy to simply get on demand... although... it is kinda neat...😎

But - do be aware that you can't set the device to use the GPRS / 3G radio just for email and WLAN for browsing, SmartConnect will want to use one for both...

Right, I'm off to reinstall Nokia Messenging! :redface:

I'm an old Chatteremail/Treo, and current Blackberry user, so I probably have similar experiences.

Have you tried Profimail? Just got it yesterday, but love it's features. (I really missed full IMAP support with my Blackberry.)

I have but I regret to say that I found it wanting, even in the latest version that supports IMAP-idle. I�m not especially keen on the interface but that isn�t the deal breaker, as the Nokia Messenger also has a slightly strange interface. It�s the lack of integration into the operating system that I dislike � being unable to easily send an email from another part of the operating system (attaching a file, that sort of thing), not seeing my email count on the active standby. Always the little things!

It�s strange, as I�ve pondered my use of email long and hard over the last few months. I don�t need push email access, but if I do have it, I want to easily see that I have one or more emails waiting. The E71�s notification light is too subtle for me to see unless it�s dark so I�d turn it on and see the active standby. Turning it on and switching to an email application just became too annoying (silly I appreciate). The alternative is to simply enable the email application when I want to check my email and have it connect then and there.

For the time being I�m caught between the standard email application (works just as I want apart from it doesn�t download message bodies) and the Nokia Messenger application, which after posting a few days ago that I found the standard application the best fit, I�ve gone back to try for the next few days(heh).

I have only used the BlackBerry with the BlackBerry Enterprise Server and it works just peachy, but I have to say, I kinda didn't want a BlackBerry for the same reasons why I didn't want an iPod. They work just great! But everybody else at the office has one...🙄

What do I miss most about Chatteremail+? The LED notification, filtered inboxes, the robust connection (Nokia Messenger does this, the standard email doesn�t), how configurable it is for regular updates, how it�ll pull information from Outlook Web Access without needing another application (but not the latest version of Exchange, which is why I have the E71). What I don�t miss is the high power consumption, even when not running.

DervMan wrote: I�m not especially keen on the interface but that isn�t the deal breaker

I rather enjoy the interface (considering the 240x320 screen on my 6650, that is).

DervMan wrote: It�s the lack of integration into the operating system that I dislike � being unable to easily send an email from another part of the operating system (attaching a file, that sort of thing), not seeing my email count on the active standby.

There really isn't much integration as far as I can tell, but I believe there is a persistent email count displayed. Profimail superimposes it over the top of the default notification area, but it seems to work fine.

DervMan wrote:It�s strange, as I�ve pondered my use of email long and hard over the last few months. I don�t need push email access, but if I do have it, I want to easily see that I have one or more emails waiting.

hahaha! I'm with you on this one. Although I'm rarely more than a few feet from an internet-connected machine, I agonize over email clients, service providers, etc. My current setup is work and personal email on my Blackberry, and personal email (also) on my 6650, but I could probably do without one/both.

DervMan wrote:I have only used the BlackBerry with the BlackBerry Enterprise Server and it works just peachy, but I have to say, I kinda didn't want a BlackBerry for the same reasons why I didn't want an iPod. They work just great! But everybody else at the office has one...🙄

I can appreciate that sentiment. I'm not too keen on Apple products myself. (i.e. my device, but they'll tell me what I can and can't put on it..) I've never really been concerned with going against the norm, but then my Blackberry was given to me and have no room to complain. 😉

DervMan wrote:What do I miss most about Chatteremail+? The LED notification, filtered inboxes, the robust connection (Nokia Messenger does this, the standard email doesn�t), how configurable it is for regular updates, how it�ll pull information from Outlook Web Access without needing another application (but not the latest version of Exchange, which is why I have the E71). What I don�t miss is the high power consumption, even when not running.

Being that you're using your Symbian as a total communications device (and I'm using my 6650 primarily as a phone) I can understand our difference of opinions. I was able to get Profimail for US $14 (50% off), so it was an easy buy for me. The Blackberry has very limited IMAP support (no folders) so it's nice having a device I can access other folders, move items, etc.

If you DO concede and get a Blackberry, take a look at BBalerts. It uses the LED light to notify you of various things (missed calls, emails, etc) and is 100% customizable -- even let's you adjust the colors. I think you'd enjoy it..

That�s another thing, too. Originally, I was given a BlackBerry device with a choice between the original BlackBerry Curve and the Pearl. Both are great devices for corporate email and as it happens, superb �phones too, mostly because of good battery life and good voice dial. I picked the Curve as the keyboard makes it a better email writing device. Well as it was a work device I couldn�t do what I usually do and make it very much mine � no extra applications could be installed, no themes, no nothing really. Ultimately, I found it a little bit too frustrating as I was carrying around a PalmOS PDA, my personal mobile and the work BlackBerry. It was killing me, because the original BlackBerry Curve is a very capable device at certain things and �it just works� is a great thing to have on a smartphone.

I wanted one device to do all three roles so I decided to opt out of the work device game and rolled the BlackBerry cost through expenses. That meant a device with either Windows Mobile and StyleTap or PalmOS. PalmOS ruled with the Trēo 680; Chatteremail+ installed and I was very happy�

�right until we upgraded to Exchange 2007.

Then it was a case of having to replace the 680 back in October / November 2008. The Palm Nova operating system could still have been vapourware, the BlackBerry Bold was having teething issues with the Orange network in the UK and wasn�t available on other networks. The Storm wasn�t out yet. I played with the Palm Trēo Pro and was tempted, but Windows Mobile still doesn�t have the one-handed usage thing nailed and Palm�s improvements went something like 90% of the way. The G1 didn�t have Exchange connectivity. The iPhone is a great piece of hardware, a wonderful user interface, but way too many restrictions (no Bluetooth keyboard driver available). A Curve would have worked a treat and I was close to just getting one to replace personal mobile and work BlackBerry, but well, I�d still need a PalmOS device and my colleagues have these devices, I like being a little different. 😉

So the Nokia E71 was the logical choice. My only fault with the E71 is that voice dial crashes the machine. That�s a pretty big flaw really, but everything else is �where it�s at� as far as I�m concerned.

Phew! In conclusion, I may well have another look at Profimail at some point. And when this contract expires in 15 months, the smartphone world will be my oyster and the BlackBerry devices will be in the shortlist. Our ICT manager is able to play with his Pearl and installed a natty application to change the notification LED colour, which may have been BBalert � but we weren�t allowed to install it.

Meanwhile, the E71 has surpassed my expectations in almost every way (apart from crashing when I try to use the voice dial).

The Blackberry Curve is an amazing device. Once RIM gets the third-party support that the Palm OS has, and a better IMAP email client, it will be exceedingly better than anything currently available.

I recently picked up my 6650 because I wanted a "simple" flip; I already have to carry my work Blackberry, and carrying two Blackberries was a real pain. Although I love that I can mod it, I think Symbian would drive me bonkers if it were my primary device. (I'm all for geeky-devices, but this thing is in a league of it's own IMO.)

Heh! Again the beauty is in the difference, as for me, SymbianOS feels very� well� restrictive. A good example is the active standby. The E71�s active standby is effective enough for what I need; it shows the missed calls, emails, that sort of thing. The Trēo had a single notification symbol for missed calls or a popped-up dialogue box, or with some applications, icons � it was easy to change. Windows Mobile�s Today page can be configured and reconfigured and reconfigured as much as one wants, which is another reason why I wasn�t so keen on it (as I would spend a long time fiddling!). The BlackBerry Curve felt like the E71 in the lack of ability to tweak the home page so much, but it has the basics.

What I like about the E71 is that its standard software suite covers most of the bases so I don�t feel compelled to tinker. Setting it up is also easy. It took a good while to set up the Trēo to work how I wanted it to and although I enjoyed it *cough* geek *cough* I�m also enjoying the E71�s �just works, thanks.�

I also really want a G1 because I could change anything I felt like on the device, but again, I needed one device for everything and for it to just work. The BlackBerry was the logical choice but I was (am) too stubborn to accept that!