Nokia and Skype have announced plans to fully integrate Skype into selected Nokia devices. Kicking off with the Nokia N97, Skype will be part of Contacts, enabling users to easily see when their Skype contacts are online, to call and to chat using a data connection. Other selected Nseries devices are also likely to come with integrated Skype functionality, through initial inclusion and through firmware upgrades.
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Good news, I hope. I haven't been able to make a reliable skype voice call using fring or nimbuzz. the fring test call always works fine.
I don't see a mention of skype out... that worries me.
I hope the client becomes available for existing S60 3.x phones...
Will they be keeping native SIP? Last I heard you couldn't do native SIP on an N85 without a lot of faffing about. If that's the strategy, it's another reason to hang on to an N95.
...until our providers block the ports that let this work. T-Mobile UK is still blocking me from logging into N-Gage Arena.
...until our providers block the ports that let this work. T-Mobile UK is still blocking me from logging into N-Gage Arena.
They can't block you logging on through wi-fi.
Yeah, I could always do stuff over Wi-Fi, but that usually means I'm indoors and in reach of an actual PC, defeating the purpose of a mobile device. Anyone know of a service provider who isn't as evil as T-mobile?
Is there any mention that this will get added to Nokia 5800 Xpress as should have no problem working via a firmware upgrade, also E series such as 61i etc should be able to handle this
Any ideas ?
Why would you want Skype on an E61 device when you already (presumably) have a SIP client? Honestly, I don't understand why everybody seems to view this announcement as good news. Skype is a proprietary P2P PoS and any client is likely to be super-bloatware. I suspect that Nokia are getting into bed with them simply because everybody knows the name. The native SIP client is a far better idea but Nokia seem to be letting that slide in everything except the E-series.
neilhoskins wrote:Why would you want Skype on an E61 device when you already (presumably) have a SIP client? Honestly, I don't understand why everybody seems to view this announcement as good news. Skype is a proprietary P2P PoS and any client is likely to be super-bloatware. I suspect that Nokia are getting into bed with them simply because everybody knows the name. The native SIP client is a far better idea but Nokia seem to be letting that slide in everything except the E-series.
Because if it ends up integrated well into contacts, I like the idea of being able to see if they are online or not. If so, I'll ring them via skype and save my free minutes.
The current client for S60 blows, in fact it's not even proper VOIP since it redirects to a number you have to pay for.
As for SIP, does that properly work with Skype contacts? I admit I haven't tried it.
neilhoskins wrote:Why would you want Skype on an E61 device when you already (presumably) have a SIP client? Honestly, I don't understand why everybody seems to view this announcement as good news. Skype is a proprietary P2P PoS and any client is likely to be super-bloatware. I suspect that Nokia are getting into bed with them simply because everybody knows the name. The native SIP client is a far better idea but Nokia seem to be letting that slide in everything except the E-series.
it makes sense to have a Skype client on the non E-series phones, since these phones are generally marketed towards the consumer. why would a consumer want to have to mess around with configuring a SIP client? Skype, while being proprietary, is a method that works. as for having the Skype client installed on an E-series phone...some of us actually use Skype on a regular basis. Lets not forget that Skype is one of the most used methods to communicate by voice over the internet. So what if they're "getting into bed" with them because everyone knows their name? Fact of the matter is that Skype is a good way to keep in touch with people. I use it on a daily basis to keep in touch with my fiancee who lives in the US. without it, we just simply would not be able to communicate without outrageous call charges.
are we really getting skype to skype calls over data?
Until now skype itself doesnt even give us that for S60. I think only fring does it?
And would we also get build in chat? Because i almost never use skype for calls 99% of the time it is just text chat.
Yeah, I could always do stuff over Wi-Fi, but that usually means I'm indoors and in reach of an actual PC, defeating the purpose of a mobile device
Obviously I can't speak for you, but I do actually find Skype over wi-fi to be very useful on mobile devices.
I've got a Nokia N810 internet tablet which has a built-in official Skype client, and it is very handy to talk on around the house. For example I can leave it in standby mode for days at a time between charges while logged in, which lets people call me even when my PC is switched off.
It's also nice to be able to take calls in any room, or even at other people's houses through their routers. I stayed in a hotel recently with free wifi access and was able to use my tablet's Skype client there, which saved me money in phone calls.
When will they integrate the Yahoo! Voice messenger? Its more popular in many countries. Anyway its nice move by Nokia & Skype & hope we see more services & applications from major services 'like the Facebook application' in the future.
Ditto to the earlier comments on Skype: it is a proprietary and closed system. This is like buying an unlocked phone, only to find that NOkia has engineered it to work with a specific mobile company just for more money.
No value added there. Just give me a good open ssytem and I will decide who I want to use.
And if Nokia wants to cream money from Skype, then sell "Skype" editons of the phone and let the market decide. Dont get me involved in that.
Skagen, Skype's advantage for Nokia isn't that it's proprietary, it is that Skype is MUCH easier to use than SIP clients, and that so many people already use Skype.
My parents regularly use Skype because it's as easy to set up and use as Gmail or any other consumer internet service. They also use it because the relatives they want to ring also use Skype.
The only way non-proprietary VOIP can ever succeed is if it's made a lot easier to set up and use, and if it can get a much bigger pool of users who can all communicate with each other. Nokia has included support for non-proprietary VOIP in its handsets for many years now and it's gone absolutely nowhere, most people don't even know it exists.
All fine and well and good, but open standards are the fundamental issue here. I will not buy a phone that restricts me to any specifc VOIP provider - or puts a specific VIOP provider on my menu in favor of others. That is a pure no-go. If want to be told what to do, I can buy an iphone - its a lot easier to handle than a Nokia anyway.
So Nokia better wise and understand their positioning.