Any way of using a USB Data Cable instead of a Serial one

I am think of buying the new Sony Vaio Notebook PCG-V505AP but it has no infrared port or serial port. Anyone else with a problem connecting to laptop (especialy Sony Vaio as they have no infrared port or serial port).

Please help.

Nick 😃

I don't know if your phone has bluetooth but maybe that could be a way? I got a good USB one which is tiny from ebay, do a search for nokia 7650, they appear on the list.

but 9210i doesn't have bluetooth.

Seems very interesting. Lot of laptops seem to be lacking IR and serial ports these days. If someone does order this USB cable, please post your comments. :scatter:

LOL

yes i hav this problem too

my laptop does not hav any IR port or serial

but fortunately i hav my older laptop which has the IR port

😃 😃 😃 😃

it;s me n1ghtFLY

Wow. That does have some promise. You have got to let us know if it works!

😃

You could also buy one of those USB/PCMCIA serial adapters, they can give you from 1 to 8 serial ports, though they are not very cheap

[quote="barflux"]but 9210i doesn't have bluetooth.[/quote]

Well, I wasn't sure.... I meant to go to the 7650 bit but ended up here and tried to help...... 😮ops:

If this is for real it could alter the speed of syncing your 9210/9290 dramatically. Serial is years behind USB so please, let us know if this works.

Aegeas

It is made by Actisys ACT-IR4000US USB Adaptor/IR-Jack for �58 I bought it for my friend who has my old 9210 and had no serial port or IR on a Compaq Laptop. I am waiting to find out if it works properly.

I prefer cable, as I occasionaly have trouble syncing with my built in IR in my existing laptop.

Nick 😃

As I said earlier I purchased a USB to serial Cable from Expansys in the UK it was �20 it works fine although we had some problems with the XP OS and supplied drivers CD It also adds about 2ft to cable length

I think we have a miscommunication here. I read the product description to be a pure USB cable that has contacts to match the bottom of the 9210/9290. I don't want to convert the included Nokia serial cable to USB. I want a single cable that will plug into my USB ports from my 9290. Is this not what the above detailed cable does??

Aegeas

This is how I read the german site as well (although my german is far from perfect). USB to 9210, no serial cables in the middle. But I think it also said that no software is included. I've been asking people and there may be a problem, because PC Suite only recognizes com ports, not USBs. If the PC Suite does not understand that there is a connection, then there may not be a connection. No syncing :cry:

But: would the 9210 still be able to function as a modem? What else do you think it could do without PC Suite? 😮

USB data cable:

This USB Datenkabel (TPD) for the data communication (FBus) with its Nokia Communicator belongs in its quality with security to the best ones, which are at present at the market, a further highlight of our program. This is driven out exclusively over us.

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Breakdown diodes 2v7 at the data lines to the protection from overvoltages
Driver for Win 98/Win 98 SE/Win ME/Win 2000/Win XP
Driver for Linux starting from 2.4 with implemented USB host
Driver for Mac OS 8.x/9.x/10.1.x/10.2.x
no driver for Win 95/Win NT4
Screen over the complete cable length
Connection to the USB A interface
double-sided SMD plate
no original cable (TPD)
industrielle manufacturing
CE marking
approx.. 1.9 m length
2 years guarantee
FBus cable for data communication

USB Datenkabel for 9110/9110i/9210/9210i:

This new type is fully dataable and exclusively for the devices of the above row suitable, a function with the successor Nokia 9210 must be still tested, is however as pure formality to be regarded. With the master software our data cable is " InterNetable ", i.e. the transmission of faxes, Mails or simply only Surfen is possible; only dependent on the net and supplying level.

Please you absolutely note that the programs support the number of the virtual Com interface, which can be normally addressed then from applications. The number of the connection depends crucially on the extensions already installed and the order of the installation, so that e.g. the serial interface, an external infrared interface and the master software in the consequence for a haven 5 or 6 provide. With " a normal PC " a number is possible starting from 3, while with a laptop without IR and without serial interface a number is possible starting from 1.

Importantly:

If the programs which can be used access over own routines directly the interface, or an own interrupt need, is not not possible the use!
If you already another USB product, e.g. a smart card reader installed, can come it to conflicts! Towitoko e.g. implemented its own USB driver in its driver package, which is merged with priority then then and a correct function prevented.

Dependent on the used software you can send your directory with our data cables of faxes and receive, in the InterNet surfen, in the Handy and on the SIM map work on, SMS read, provide and to send away, as well as Logos & of bell tones change (Startup -, groups -, operator or caller Logos), etc..

Our data cable became gesture constant with a Nokia 9110 (V x.xx) and the following programs, which list extended by us after further tests constantly:

9110 9110i 9210 9210i

Original programs of CD for Nokia 9110/9210
Data link with cable and original driver

CURRENT PRICE: 49.95 (DM 97,69)
Exclusively with www.handy datenkabel.de

You find a serial data cable with MT US function [ here ]

Consider please:

Our data cables serve as replacement when loss or damages the original cable or as accessories for the Shareware & Freewareprogrammen and without software are generally supplied. We do not take over any adhesion for possible, from the use of the cables and/or the software developed damage. The use of a pirat copy/not licensed copy of the Nokia programs is punishable, likewise the manipulation/removing the Simlocks and interferences into the firmware of the mobile telephones. Questions to the Simlock are not answered, but are not unread deleted, also no UNLOCK often commodity is made available!

So do we get this right ? 9210 connected to a PC/MAC (if I believe the drivers mentioned in the list) ?

If it works, it is big news...

:P

I hate those translation machines, the result is often next to illegible...

So there are drivers included. I guess modem use (to surf, read e-mails, fax etc) would work then. But you could not move files between PC and 9210 using file manager (I suspect that this is somehow managed by the PC Suite)? Syncing to outlook would also be a no. Or? :roll:

And they have not tested this on 9210 yet. It is 'a pure formality', yeah right! I have no experience on 9110 so I don't know how different the two are, but it makes me wonder... :roll:

I so wish I'm being too pessimistic here. :robot:

Just a heads-up. For those here in the States that would like this cable they will start shipping them to the US in mid April but with a shipping surcharge. Well worth it in my opinion for the speed. BTW, the site may be in German, but their customer service folks speak excellent english and will be glad to help you as they did me.

Aegeas

My question would be: does this make things any faster?
Of course serial is faster than usb but can and will the serial port of the 9210 allow higher speeds?

I'm guessing no ...

So I don't think you should be hoping to get more speed out of it. But PLS prove me wrong 😊

That is an excellent question. I have no proof that the 9210/9290 is able to go any faster than the 115200bps that a normal serial port permits. I am willing to gamble on it if for no other reason than I like disabling my serial ports to keep irq issues to a minimum and my USB ports are easy to get to on the front of my case.

Aegeas

Only cost �21, so I will give a try on my new laptop when it come next week.

N

I'd be with Dazler on this one. I suspect it'll work along the lines of these USB-to-serial converters, like the ones you get in the 'Connectivity Pack' for serial Palm devices.

The thing will probably just install a virtual serial port which can be accessed via the USB port. If that's the case, it'll just work like the generic USB-serial converter cables that someone already mentioned (I have a USB printer cable that works the same way, but for an LPT port).

The only difference would be that the serial port pins would already be hardwired into the 9210 interface jack, so it's a much tidier one-cable solution. This would therefore mean that you'd get USB connectivity with one cable, but the data transfer speeds would be the same as for a direct serial connection (unsurprising really, as that's all the 9210 bus was designed to handle anyway). Whether you could connect to a Mac would then depend entirely on whether Mac drivers were provided with the cable as well. If so, then I don't see a problem at all. Just keep in mind that the overall goal here is basic USB connectivitty, not a speed increase.

Of course, the above is just speculation on my part, but it'd be the most logical way to provide cheap USB support with off-the-shelf hardware.

Anyway, please let us know how it works when you get it.

It is excellent, easy to install and worked first time on my Sony PCG-Z1SP laptop, and after uninstalling the old Belkin USB-Serial Hub, and Actisys IR4000US infrared, and then installing this Targus (as others didn't work) it worked straight away.

So for those with no infrared or no serial then get it. It works perfectly.

Go buy it saved me so much time and hassle.

N

Is it any faster????!?!

But I am not bothered too much about speed, just wanted it to sync. Which I can do. 😃

N

It doesn't matter if you use USB cable for Nokia phone or RS232 cable with USB-to-serial converter. That "USB" cable has USB-to Serial converter built-in, so the only difference is that you have either one piece or two pieces connected together. In both cases you have to install driver for converter that will create a virtual COM port. This is the port that the PC Suite, modem driver etc. is directed to.

The speed is 115200 bps regardless on how fast the USB port can be. The phone can't.

Neither Nokia phone nor Nokia communicator is USB device so it cannot be plugged directly to USB port.

And the phone PC software doesn't see any USB port, just COM ports.

Do you know how landline or wireless "USB modems" work? They have USB-to Serial converter built-in, too. Each modem needs COM port to be able to work, either true one or virtual one.

I tried the http://www.handy-datenkabel.de website, quite humourous; their home page says "please choose language", and offers "German". (an nothing else! 😃 )

I'm tempted to try their cable. I'm using a USB to serial converter cable, and then have the normal serial to Nokia cable. This works, most of the time, but often decides that the Nokia is not connected, for no reason. This may be because I have very old firmware (3.62(1)), I dunno, but it's blindingly annoying, if trying to install or copy large files, or do backups. Normally after copying 5M or so, it loses connection, and I have to start over...

This is the second USB to serial converter cable I've had. The first one was much worse, it could barely see the 9210 at all. So there seems a lot of variation, and unreliability. (I can't see why, it's not like comms handshaking is rocket science)

If the http://www.handy-datenkabel.de comes with a 2 year gurantee (which is what my mediocre german suggests) then it seems a safe thing to try?

i�m using a USB adaptor to conect my laptop to my 9210i and it as been working fine

[quote="barflux"]It is excellent, easy to install and worked first time on my Sony PCG-Z1SP laptop, and after uninstalling the old Belkin USB-Serial Hub, and Actisys IR4000US infrared, and then installing this Targus (as others didn't work) it worked straight away.

So for those with no infrared or no serial then get it. It works perfectly.

Go buy it saved me so much time and hassle.

N[/quote]

Coo. Sounds like a nice option if you don't have an IR or COM port (like most of the Vaios), thanks for letting us know. 😊

[quote="Doc-martens"]i�m using a USB adaptor to conect my laptop to my 9210i and it as been working fine[/quote]

I'm quite a beginner on N9210 and usb matters. My station is HP laptop pavillon ZT1162 XP home with no serial port. I try to connect my N9210 with a Belkin serial adapter F5U103 but without success (I guess it's because the Belkin is F5U103-MAC for MacOS).

What kind of serial adapter are you using ?

The NokiaHelpLine let me know unofficially that with a KEYSPAN adapter it works. I will try.

Steph