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Has nokia lost the plot?

4 replies · 2,454 views · Started 14 April 2009

Hi guys,

I've just recieved an N95 recently. I love the power I get with symbian and the phone itself seems ok...BUT is it just me or is symbian hard to use?

I can get around it OK, but it just seems...well...clunky...certainly compared to a modern feature phone.

I tried installing some apps and the whole "needs to be signed" issue came up repeatedly, even with freeware. Then some apps only work with fp2, some need fp1.

I checked in the "downloads" section on the phone and there's like 15 apps..

Then there's Ngage...which is great. But it's inconsistent. some games have 3d accel...others don't. There's not enough games.

Like don't get me wrong...I've sussed it out now and the phone is working great...but it was a lot of work and research getting to this point. It's kinda a bit like using linux. My mum or my dad or my wife would have given up.

All I'm saying is that it's all too complicated. development, getting apps, installing then..even using them. every step of the way is harder than it should be. ESPECIALLY considering what's going down in the android and iphone camps.

Development on iphone and android is slick, relatively painless and consistent. Android chucks everything into a full JavaVM and iphone is just(essentially) one model.

Nokia is enormous and it just blows my mind that they haven't came up with something better. It's 2 years since iphone 1.0 revolutionized mobile computing, development and distribution.

Am I alone here? What do you think the future holds for symbian? I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Open source development is the only way to go (like Iphone).
Sitting on your hands - like Nokia and trying to protect you software is just what apple did back in the 80's when they tried to control the apple OS and opened the gates for Windows to dominate the market.
Make everything free (except hardware), because people are gonna work around it anyway.

Here's some more thoughts...

I've set up the N95 to how I like it,
I changed the log to 10 days, moved all the menus around, changed themes, turned the active standby off turned the screen brightess up, changed all the shortcuts and it was still too slow...so I overclocked it up to 430 mhz.

It's still slower than most feature-phones but is certainly usable now.

Another thing... there's a whole bunch of missed opportunities... like why can't we buy java games over n-gage? Why is it when a user buys a java game it goes into applications and a ngage game goes in the ngage box. Everyone here understands why this is, but my parents don't and my sister certainly doesn't...she gave me the phone.

Why does the N95 have 2 menus? Is that really necessary?

I really hope the symbian foundation does something cool. The platform really needs some loving right now.

Have you tried to install BB apps they are much harder. You dont really need PC suite to install your apps. try sending it to your phone through blue tooth

hammerv2 wrote:Hi guys,

I've just recieved an N95 recently. I love the power I get with symbian and the phone itself seems ok...BUT is it just me or is symbian hard to use?

I can get around it OK, but it just seems...well...clunky...certainly compared to a modern feature phone.

I tried installing some apps and the whole "needs to be signed" issue came up repeatedly, even with freeware. Then some apps only work with fp2, some need fp1.

I checked in the "downloads" section on the phone and there's like 15 apps..

Then there's Ngage...which is great. But it's inconsistent. some games have 3d accel...others don't. There's not enough games.

Like don't get me wrong...I've sussed it out now and the phone is working great...but it was a lot of work and research getting to this point. It's kinda a bit like using linux. My mum or my dad or my wife would have given up.

All I'm saying is that it's all too complicated. development, getting apps, installing then..even using them. every step of the way is harder than it should be. ESPECIALLY considering what's going down in the android and iphone camps.

Development on iphone and android is slick, relatively painless and consistent. Android chucks everything into a full JavaVM and iphone is just(essentially) one model.

Nokia is enormous and it just blows my mind that they haven't came up with something better. It's 2 years since iphone 1.0 revolutionized mobile computing, development and distribution.

Am I alone here? What do you think the future holds for symbian? I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Aha! BB!! yes I have and you are right! BB suck too!! 😊 The overall usability is a bit higher though and the whole OS does feel snappier, (the storm is a fat, buggy and bloated exception). Configuring a blackberry is a bit rough though...even now.