For many people anyway, e.g. here at N97 enthusiast Gerry Moth's. See also his Twitter feed for his comments through the day. Rafe and Tzer2 both have N97s here at AAS and I'll try to get some comments out of them through the day!
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New firmware NOT available for UK sim free handsets
Not on my UK SIM free either!!!
Patience is a virtue.
It's not here on my german white one, either, but I am sure it will come available over the course of today.
Sooo, launch the N97 globally and then fail to deliver firmware for all SIM free versions at the same time.
Sorry, it's another... FAIL!
celios wrote:Sooo, launch the N97 globally and then fail to deliver firmware for all SIM free versions at the same time.Sorry, it's another... FAIL!
I got it on my UK sim free, but had to do a PC update
Uk Sim free handsets always get firmwares later than euro versions. Any where from 5 - 30 days usually, still sucks though.
celios wrote:Sooo, launch the N97 globally and then fail to deliver firmware for all SIM free versions at the same time.Sorry, it's another... FAIL!
Nokia can't release an OTA firmware update simultaneously to all live handsets because the NETWORKS WON'T ALLOW it. It has to be done by quota and staggered to reduce the concurrent downloads happening all at the same time.
Celios is a FAIL for not stopping and thinking before posting. Nokia have to contend with fools like this posting crap on forums.
Unregistered wrote:Nokia can't release an OTA firmware update simultaneously to all live handsets because the NETWORKS WON'T ALLOW it. It has to be done by quota and staggered to reduce the concurrent downloads happening all at the same time.Celios is a FAIL for not stopping and thinking before posting. Nokia have to contend with fools like this posting crap on forums.
There can't be too many people on UK mobile networks who don't have either a UK SIM free phone, or a UK operator branded version of the N97.
If they were worried about overloading their servers (something you can plan for) It would make some kind of sense if they rolled it out to groups of IMEI numbers rather than country by country. When the UK SIM free version is available, there will be a sudden surge of demand, not that many people will be downloading the firmware OTA via a mobile phone network, I would imagine most people will have the sense to do it via WiFi or the PC suite connection.
Nokia are slowing irritating more and more of their customers, the firmware on my phone is dated mid-May. WTF have they been doing for 6 weeks that they couldn't find time to test the firmware for all the product codes they have already shipped? This wouldn't be a problem if there weren't obvious bugs that you spot within a day of using the phone.
You think upgrading the firmware is joke??? You try to do few lines of code in 6 weeks and see how far you go, stop ranting and wait for upgrade just like everyone else, no body forced you to buy n97, there are lots of other option.
Come on ladies, calm down!
It has got bugger all to do with OTA updates and server load.
a UK Sim Free variant is just that a customised version of the N97 for the UK market, as such any new firmware has to be customised, tested and approved before release.
In that respect it is no different to a branded handset.
UK Sim Free variants, rarely, if ever get released on the same day as the standard euro variant, it usually takes 5-30 days before they are tested and released.
Nokia can't release an OTA firmware update simultaneously to all live handsets because the NETWORKS WON'T ALLOW it. It has to be done by quota and staggered to reduce the concurrent downloads happening all at the same time.
This is utter rubbish. The number of people who do OTA Nokia firmware upgrades is in the low hundreds - in each territory.
More disinformation from anonymous Nokia fanboys. They are as bad as the Apple loonies, now.
I got it over the air at 9 'o' clock this morning. SIM free N97 on T-Mobile. Works a charm. It didn't have any effect on the oh so disappointing keyboard though.
The space bar on the right is not a problem, I like it there. Here are my two main issues. 1: Why oh why isn't there a dedicated comma key, or at least have the full stop key as the comma key and have two spaces as a full stop? I like to put punctuation in my sentences.!�$"%&??? 2: The keys are horrible to type on, they don't enough of a click to them and with some of the letters I will be unsure whether I have pressed the key down or not.
This seems badly thought out when one of the main selling points of this device is the slider and by extension the physical keyboard.
Anyone know if the change list has been published? Seen a couple floating around, after something official from Nokia
got it in Australia....
Checking on my unbranded N97 purchased yesterday in Australia, nothing available as yet. 10:40pm EST. 😞
Hi there,
I just playing around with N97 (S60 V5)....its built in messanging is very good to me.
1. It can pull every 5 minutes
2. It will be grouping the email message by the date...so I can collapse 2 days ago or yesterday emails...and only expand today emails.
Also I've tried nokia push messaging software in E71....but I don't like it at all.
Because, I can not see the message details (to check how many KB it is) and also can not mark the emails with shift + d pad....so it is so painful to choose several emails and delete the emails one by one...
Also there is no time info on each today's email.
My question is :
Does N97 built in messaging the same as in N86 (S60V3 FP2), E 75 (S60V3 FP2) and 5800 (S60 V5) ?
The built in email messaging in E71 is good but not as good & complete as N97...
Thanks
Nokia should've got these bugs ironed out of the phone prior to release, given the �500 price tag! Then to top it off, users that paid this sum (like me) do not get the firmware update right away - WTF?!?! People like me are right to be annoyed! We buy an unfinished product and then get asked to join the back of the queue to get it sorted! Nokia, you're lucky people some people are willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
i'm downloading update as i type; going smoothly but will report after i'm finished
Any body know what difference ther is between uk sim free 0585162 and Euro 1 0570817 which is available?
Any uk folks having any joy getting hold of the new firmware?
Has anyone updated a NAM edition unit yet?
Berty wrote:Come on ladies, calm down!
PMSL! haha
I bought N97 from nokia shop in london, cant see new firmware throught NSU.
It's nice to see the US first for a change when it comes to Nokia. We got the N97 before Europe, and the firmware upgrade on Day 1. Now if Nokia can convince AT&T to carry a version they could sell a bundle of these stateside.
I have just installed the new firmware on a RM507 and it all works fine except from locked mode when you wipe screen to answer a call, there is then no way to hang up except powering down.
Anybody else seen this or got a solution??
Well I think it is a failure for nokia. Till now it is not available for middle east region.
I don't think it is a network load issue, the handset is still new and I dont they have sold more than 100k units till now. In addition to that when apple releases an update it goes gloabl and everyone know how many units apple have sold so far 😊
So it is a failure
Unregistered wrote:The space bar on the right is not a problem, I like it there. Here are my two main issues. 1: Why oh why isn't there a dedicated comma key, or at least have the full stop key as the comma key and have two spaces as a full stop? I like to put punctuation in my sentences.!�$"%&??? 2: The keys are horrible to type on, they don't enough of a click to them and with some of the letters I will be unsure whether I have pressed the key down or not.
This seems badly thought out when one of the main selling points of this device is the slider and by extension the physical keyboard.
Double tap the shift key for consecutive capital letters, and then tap it once to remove. Also, with symbols the same can be done with the blue arrow, tap twice, and you can enter numbers, and symbols consecutively, press blue arrow again to remove lock.