I went to my friends, daughters, 18th birthday bash at a country pub last weekend.
Before going, I downloaded some random photo's of his daughter and the family taken over the years.
My friend is the proud owner of the new iPhone 3GS and, I have to say, it does look a smart piece of kit.
Whilst sat at the table I showed my friend and some of his family the photo's that I'd downloaded earlier. He immediately asked if I could send him copies of them and I said, "Of course, I'll Bluetooth them to you now."
It was at this point that he told me that Bluetooth on the iPhone only works with the headset and could I email them to him.
A little later he asked me if I wouldn't mind taking some photo's of his family and friends as a keepsake as his phone had no flash.
I, of course, obliged.
To cap it all, at the end of the night, he asked to borrow my phone to call for a cab as he couldn't get a signal on his phone (he also hadn't received the emailed photo's I'd sent him earlier).
This is in no way a technical comparison of the two phones but just a practical experience of one evening.
ah Ian, tell me at the end of the evening when he needed your phone to make a call that you gave him a superior grin, ah ya did didn't ya ..... ah tell me you did .... gooo on 😃
For me this experience sums up why i didn't get one. It is slick, has plenty of pointless apps to keep you entertained for about 5 mins and then you're done. What it can do it does well, but it does so little.
To be honest I didn't have to, his wife did it for me when he borrowed my phone to call a cab and she said, "I don't know why he's got that iPhone. It's rubbish! I can never get hold of him. I want one like yours".
On second thoughts, maybe I know why he's got it now. 😃
I do have to say that there were lots of things I liked about this new iPhone 3GS, the touch screen and fast processor, but there were lots that put me off such as the rubbish speaker quality and the fact that you couldn't run an application in the background.
The iphone ui is fantastic. Sometimes i do wonder just how completely thick nokia must be, the all they needed to do is produce a phone with n97 spec, with an updated interface, a proper touch screen (cant remember the name), a little more ram and a faster processor. Thats it. Oh, and test it first 😉
[email protected] wrote:To cap it all, at the end of the night, he asked to borrow my phone to call for a cab as he couldn't get a signal on his phone (he also hadn't received the emailed photo's I'd sent him earlier).
I would be the last person to back up the iPhone in such a comparison but, to be fair, it's possible that o2 didn't have any coverage where you were. I'm on o2 with my N97, so in that situation I would probably have the same problem.
Please tell me that you're on o2 as well, so that this theory can be shot out of the water and would prove that the N97 is better at getting a signal than the iPhone. 😃
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Please tell me that you're on o2 as well, so that this theory can be shot out of the water and would prove that the N97 is better at getting a signal than the iPhone. 😃
I wish I could say that... but I'm on Vodafone.
However, his daughter, who's on O2, called a cab earlier on her Nokia 5800 to go clubbing.
[email protected] wrote:However, his daughter, who's on O2, called a cab earlier on her Nokia 5800 to go clubbing.
HAHA! A mid-tier Nokia phone got a better signal than Apple's flagship??
That must've been embarrassing :redface:
Nice to see the Nokias holding their own! Had similar experience at the weekend when out with friends! They're iPhones didnt take any photos yet the N97 was snapping away all night!! and videoing and none were 3GS so they couldnt.
muhuhuhahuahahahauhauhahahahaha!
Sorry folks.... this wasn't intended to be a bitch against the iPhone.
It just seemed that in practical everyday usage the iPhone, which isn't cheap, fell down badly on things that we N97 users take for granted.
I'd be the first to admit that the N97 has its failings and being a member of this forum, and reading some of the problems that users experience, it's sometimes all too easy to forget that other high end phones have their shortcomings too.
As Mark Anthony says in his funeral oration in Shakespeare's Julius Caeser, "The evil that men do lives after them. The good is oft interred with their bones."
As a previous iphone owner, i admit that Iphone is great piece of device, But nothing compare to n97.
I love multitasking, better camera, better Battery, Fm transmitter and better Internet ( opera Mini).
Iphone does have better Ui but which can be achieved now with Theme transition.
I know N97 has lots of Bugs, and it would be last Nokia device if not fixed but hope for next fw.
have to say i had the Iphone for only 2 days before i wanted to throw it into the wall and buy something new. Only people who want to use that who doesn't know definition of Smartphone.
Sorry about bitching but had to say.
Thanks
For the last 2 years, i've taken at least 3 months deciding which new phone to get, the Nokia flagship, or the Apple. Each time i've had to go with the Nokia, more features and freedom and usually cheaper.
If Symbian/Maemo can pick up some good apps, i can't see why i'd change next year, unless Apple release the tablet and make it work seamlessly with the iPhone, then i could be tempted..
Don't be so quick to blame the iPhone... (no I'm not an iPhone lover!)
My wife's old LG phone wouldn't work any time it was in close proximity to my old Nokia 9300.
I suspect that the "stronger" phone hogs the signal bandwidth and "steps on" the other phones.
Another story...
Years back I was working a chemical plant start-up and was inside the blast-resistant control building with other engineers. They all had the latest purely digital cell phones and could not make calls form inside the building (due to all of the concrete and steel). My multi-mode Nokia (digital+analog) was able to punch out and make calls by switching to analog mode at almost twice the power level.
Needless to say they were impressed!
I however was concerned about what the higher power level in RF radiation was going to do to me!
To be honest, the fact that the iPhone doesn't multitask is IMO one of the reasons it sells so well to people who don't normal buy smartphones.
By keeping it simple and following the 80/20 rule, Apple were able to deliver something that works well for 80% of users. They did their research and realised that the complexity and 'computer-like' nature of many smartphones was a big turn off.
Unfortunately, I am in the 20% of the user base who want more customisation, the ability to run multiple apps, etc. Plus, I don't want to be forced to use a certain network (O2 in the UK).
What they have done is very clever. They made a smartphone that all the people "too cool" to have a smartphone could buy without being a nerd! Its so clever, you've got to hand it to them, when all manufacturers couldn't sell anything they sold millions of phones which were so backward in features it was unreal- no mms, no video recorder, can't even change the wallpaper, a complete lemon feature wise. Imagine if anyone else made a phone that backward, they would have been laughed out of the market.
Pure genius
spirit44 wrote:What they have done is very clever. They made a smartphone that all the people "too cool" to have a smartphone could buy without being a nerd! Its so clever, you've got to hand it to them, when all manufacturers couldn't sell anything they sold millions of phones which were so backward in features it was unreal- no mms, no video recorder, can't even change the wallpaper, a complete lemon feature wise. Imagine if anyone else made a phone that backward, they would have been laughed out of the market. Pure genius
It is, but there is one important thing you missed... the few features it does have are accessible and in your face. Not to mention the peerless design and eye-candy of the UI.
[email protected] wrote:"I don't know why he's got that iPhone. It's rubbish! I can never get hold of him. I want one like yours".On second thoughts, maybe I know why he's got it now. 😃
Gave me a chuckle that one, maybe thats why there are so many iPhone sales? :tongue:
I think the iPhone will just keep getting better and better ( at least I hope it does! ). I'm a bit stuck at the moment, as I've had the N97 for around two months now, and its been ok. It seems to work better when I take out my memory card ( transferred from the N95 ) which i think had a load of crap on it, so seemed to confuse it now and again.
Hasn't locked up for frozen for a while, but the C drive is running very low on space ( yes, I've read loads of tips how to increase it ) .
Symbian doesn't seem to overly user friendly I have to say, whereas the Apple OS is. If there was phone that could possibly combine the features of the N97 with the user interface of the iPhone, it would be a world wide hit. Until then, looks like I'm stuck with the N97.
Edited to add: In the two months I've had, I've only seen ONE other person with an N97. The hype it is getting in Saudi is H-U-G-E. Posters and adverts literally everywhere. Why hasn't it caught on?
nottmbantam wrote:
Why hasn't it caught on?
- Buggy firmware
- Dodgy GPS
- Scratchy lens cover
nottmbantam wrote:I've only seen ONE other person with an N97. The hype it is getting in Saudi is H-U-G-E. Posters and adverts literally everywhere. Why hasn't it caught on?
I was in Spain recently and the N85 is really being pushed there by Vodafone, yet it's almost unheard of here in the UK.
Whilst the iPhone doesn't multi-task; when you return to the menu from an app then go back to it, it remembers where you were, so in practical use there's no real difference.
Unlocking to any network can be done in about 20 minutes and the software is free - mine's running quite happily on Vodafone.
Installing apps called Cydia and Winterboard allows you all the customisation of the interface, ringtones etc that you can eat.
I don't mean to champion my new toy (and subsequently get flamed), just wanted to give some information from my experience to anyone who was thinking of jumping ship but was put off by these issues.
Before my n97 I had an iphone which was quiet snappy and all but when all the charm of the pretty UI and cute apps went away I had to jailbreak it to get tethering and bluetooth file tranfer capacity, which sucked anyway by the way.. After that I wanted to give my iphone a cool personal look so I downloaded Winterboard.. It went all downhill from there ..
The battery wouldnt last me 5 hours with light use and the phone got choppy as hell..
The phone remembering where you were on your closed apps doesn't even comes close to true multitasking.. even for things as simple as using Beejive and Safari.. I would be chatting.. and wanted to see something in the web real quick.. I'd had to quit beejive.. load up safari then open up again beejive just to wait a good 15-20 seconds for it to restore connection lol it's just not the same.
Eventho v12 is still buggy, it is way better than the initial firmware and there are more firmware updates to come so stability isn't much of an issue for me now.
I guess I'm one of those weirdos who couldn't be happier with having get rid of the iphone for the n97 lol.
Halon wrote:Whilst the iPhone doesn't multi-task; when you return to the menu from an app then go back to it, it remembers where you were, so in practical use there's no real difference.
That is application dependent. And the Application itself has to keep track of where you are, exit, restart, restore. That is NOT part of the OS.
It would be pretty useful if the OS handled that ..
I had the iphone since it originally came out and all the versions apart from the latest but i also had to carry around a n82 as well to do the tasks the iphone could 'nt , now all i need is the n97 . The iphone was pretty good at what it did but it should be after two years of firmware changes while not making any real leaps from when it was first out on the market .
[QUOTE=Halon;434984]Whilst the iPhone doesn't multi-task; when you return to the menu from an app then go back to it, it remembers where you were, so in practical use there's no real difference.
I'm a bit confused about that statement of "there's no real difference", as my friend was genuinely impressed with the N97 when I used Mobbler to play music and the web browser simultaneously to find out what was number 1 when his daughter was born.
Before you ask it was Bryan Adams with (Everything I Do) I Do It For You from Robin Hood, Price of Thieves, 16 weeks at number 1.
(How could I have forgotten that?)
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Before you ask it was Bryan Adams with (Everything I Do) I Do It For You from Robin Hood, Price of Thieves, 16 weeks at number 1.
(How could I have forgotten that?)
Arrggghhh! I had almost forgotten that song! 😃
[email protected] wrote:Bryan Adams with (Everything I Do) I Do It For You from Robin Hood, Price of Thieves, 16 weeks at number 1.
(How could I have forgotten that?)
I've been trying to forget it for a very long time...
😉
You can view the video and listen to the song here:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGoWtY_h4xo
Go on... you know you want to!
:banghead:
NOOOOOOOOOoooooooo!!!!!!!
Bryan: "Everything I do. I dooby-dooby-do it for you..."
Make it stop...
😡