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First glimpse of hardware-accelerated Bounce for the Nokia N900

27 replies · 9,219 views · Started 05 September 2009

Nokia's own 3D platform game Bounce apparently has a new installment bundled with the upcoming Linux-based Nokia N900 smartphone. The graphics are a bit more realistic than on Boing Voyage, probably due to the N900's more powerful CPU and built-in graphics processor. Swedish phone site mobil.se has included a brief clip of the new Bounce in their N900 hands-on video, which you can watch below. Bounce appears at 4:00. (via Maemo Talk)

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the video is pretty high quality so watch in full screen you really get a good view of the detail, the GFX look very awesome indeed, i just need my n900 now its a killer waiting lol and hope for this game to be fully developed to a full game b/c its only a demo

Ccraig is right, press the full screen button in the embedded video if you want to see all the detail, it's pretty good quality if your connection is fast enough.

I really hope Maemo and the n900 takes off in a big way b/c it as a lot of potential to compete with the best handheld gaming devices on the market
the initial indications are good and its even got the people who was saying "nokia is dead" "there best day are behind them" taking notice and are now back peddling throwing praise at nokia on their sites, its funny how peoples opinions change in week lol

I think game developers will prefer Maemo to Symbian as it's apparently a lot easier to program for Maemo, though I've heard that Symbian is due for a massive overhaul in the next couple of years which could even things out.

Whatever happens, it looks like the software world will get very interesting over the next few years.

its even got the people who was saying "nokia is dead" "there best day are behind them" taking notice and are now back peddling throwing praise at nokia on their sites, its funny how peoples opinions change in week l

Well the funniest thing is when you compare what people say about Maemo now to what they said in 2005 when Nokia launched the first Maemo internet tablet. Everyone at the time said it was a total waste of time and money, they couldn't understand why anyone would want a pocket-sized touchscreen internet viewer. But with the success of the iPhone and iPod Touch (which are pretty much the same concept as the Maemo tablets) it looks like Nokia has anticipated the high end market exactly right, and instead of being unprepared they've actually got a device that is a product of four years of development. It took them maybe a bit too long to get it polished and out of the door, but it's here now.

Got to admit I was one of the sceptics about the tablets at the beginning, but once Nokia said the N900 would be a phone too then it all clicked into place.

By the way I just noticed something:

When we were All About N-Gage we used to get a steady stream of posts saying something like "N-Gage is crap cos it doesn't have as many releases as my fabulous IPHONE etc".

Then when Ovi Store launched with a release rate of about a hundred new games a month, those posts were replaced by people saying "Ovi Store is crap cos it doesn't have as good graphics as my amazing IPHONE".

Now when we put up a story about a Nokia-exclusive game with high end graphics on an Ovi Store device, they go completely silent and don't post a thing.

Were these people Nokia users genuinely asking for more releases and better graphics, or were they Apple fans looking for excuses to post about their iPhones?

Yeah, have to agree with that, the N97 was a bit of a pointless release. The 5800 is basically the same stuff inside but half the price, while the N900 is much better stuff inside,same form factor on the outside, and the same price.

I feel your pain davecozens... 😞

At the moment there are tons of emulators and games for the n8x0 tablets. It's just a matter of time before some/most of this will appear on the n900. The problem with the old tablets games ran a little slow especially with emulators. However with the new hardware should change all this.

TooMuchMoney, good point, the new hardware should make existing and new emus run much more smoothly. And there are tons of emulators on desktop Linux which could get ported to Maemo Linux fairly easily.

Anybody know if WINE runs on Maemo? That would pretty amazing, altough it would have to be used on relatively old PC's games, but even something like roughly 5 old PC games running in a phone would be mindblowing.

Unregistered, Wine would be difficult because apparently it requires an x86 (i.e. Intel or Intel clone) CPU to be present in order to get PC applications to run, but most mobile devices (including the N900) use an ARM CPU.

More info here, but basically the problem is that Wine isn't a full emulator, it needs a PC processor to be present in order to run Windows software:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=319342&postcount=10

BUT... don't lose hope, a lot of older PC games have been ported to desktop Linux, and they can then be fairly easily ported to Maemo Linux which means they'd be running natively on the N900.

@ Tzer2,
Showing off a demo is one thing, and periodically releasing good games is a different thing. Nokia did show off excellent One and System Rush demos long before the launch of N-Gage platform - look how it turned out at the end. I am not ranting about the graphics, but the lack of good games; even Nokia shied away from releasing hardcore games (Dance Fabulous, Creebies are far from being hardcore) after November 2008. And please don't tell me "majority of gamers don't care about hardcore games, they are happy with kiddie and girlie games". If that was the case, N-Gage would be in a much better position economically.

I am not ranting about the graphics, but the lack of good games; even Nokia shied away from releasing hardcore games (Dance Fabulous, Creebies are far from being hardcore) after November 2008.

First of all there ARE good games, especially Nokia's first party stuff, and we've reviewed lots of Ovi Store and N-Gage games with scores from 60-90% which is the band at which we'd recommend a purchase. A lot of the stuff in Ovi Store is crap and we're not afraid to say that, but it's not all crap (and a certain proportion of crap games is par for the course when you allow everyone to publish games).

Second, this is obviously a personal decision but I think you're wrong to use "good" and "hardcore" as if they were the same thing.

I've spent my entire life gaming, I had a ZX Spectrum as a child, PCs and handhelds later on, mobile phone games nowadays. I think that qualifies me as a gamer.

Apart from phone games, my most played games right now are Animal Crossing, Wii Fit and Endless Ocean. None of those are remotely hardcore so by your standard these are all crap, yet they've given me and millions of other people a lot of pleasure. Gaming is only there to give people pleasure, it serves no other purpose.

And please don't tell me "majority of gamers don't care about hardcore games, they are happy with kiddie and girlie games"

Well, what is actually wrong with games that are "girlie" or "kiddie"?

Nintendo have done pretty well lately and most of their stuff seems to be aimed at that kind of demographic. They've also steered totally away from hardcore gamers yet their sales are bigger than all their rivals put together.

If that was the case, N-Gage would be in a much better position economically.

N-Gage's problems are largely to do with no one knowing it exists, the games costing twice the price while offering little extra to justify the difference, the client not being preinstalled until really late in the platform's life, and the incredible lack of releases (compare Ovi Store which has about 100 new games a month to N-Gage with 40 games after 18 months).

The game looks really good,it have some framerate issues,but this might be from the video.The phone looks great,but n97 looked great to,so.The last "legendary" phone was n95,it came out back in 2006,the iphone came out 2007,and since then no other phone didn't get dis "legendary"status.And in ovi store,there aren't so many games,and the quality is lower as it gets.For games Iphone is the king,and this wouldn't change!Nokia should go to another direction,because the iphone have toooo many users and fans to be beaten!!!

@ Tzer2,
Why do you pass your comments on a single statement? I wrote:

And please don't tell me "majority of gamers don't care about hardcore games, they are happy with kiddie and girlie games". If that was the case, N-Gage would be in a much better position economically.

which is AN idea. You ripped the 2 sentences apart and explained it your way.

Regarding your references on Nintendo:

How can you even compare [SIZE="5"]Nintendo[/SIZE] with [SIZE="1"]Nokia[/SIZE] in terms of gaming?

N-Gage's problems are largely to do with no one knowing it exists, the games costing twice the price while offering little extra to justify the difference, the client not being preinstalled until really late in the platform's life, and the incredible lack of releases (compare Ovi Store which has about 100 new games a month to N-Gage with 40 games after 18 months).

This argument shows Nokia's incompetence in terms of gaming and hence Nokia should not be compared to Nintendo. The BIG N would have never botched up their premium platform release the way Nokia did.

Nintendo has, at least the following 1st party franchises:

Donkey Kong
Mario
Zelda
Golden Sun
Wars (of which, Advance Wars is a spin-off)
Pokemon
Wario
Fire Emblem
Metroid

Not to mention 3rd party franchises like Castlevania, Megaman, Final Fantasy, which flourished on their platforms.
Nokia, on the other hand, has only got Snake, which is comparable to the above-mentioned franchises.
What Nintendo can afford (going casual to attract a larger demographic), Nokia CAN'T. Even if Nintendo releases girlie games, they are unlikely to lose much of their user base, because, a fan knows that he/she is not going to get Mario on another platform.
On the other hand, someone can easily switch from Nokia/N-Gage/Symbian, because, he/she will be getting same or may be better gaming experience elsewhere.

Regarding your argument on presence of good games in Ovi Store, you just invalidated that in saying that games are overpriced. How can something overpriced be good for consumers? If the quality can't justify the price, then how can the game be considered good?

Well Tzer2,there are some good games on the n-gage,but they are not enough.For how many time,we haven't seen anything really good?The last one was dance fabulous great game(not hardcore),and the most of the new games are crappy ports of old java games.And yes,the games from nokia are great(but even they can't match the iphone games quality),but they are not enough.
My favourite n-gage games are
Dance fabulous,one,mgs,bounce,reset generation,cotd,space impact and they are all great games.But not as great as the iphone ones.And there are not enaugh games.Lets just look at one developer GAMELOFT.For the iphone they will release Asphalt 5,Shreck kart,earthworm jim,dungeon hunter,blades of fury,Gangstar and modern combat sandstorm(these last two are already relesed,this month).& games,that are better than all the n-gage games,and these are only from one developer,and all will going to be released for a few months. And i just want to ask for everyone who reads this,just look all these games at youtube,and then say what you think.And when we get all the other big and small developers,we get something incredible.Not only that there are thousand of games coming every month,but most of them are with incredible quality.
For games iphone totally and completely beats n-gage and ovi and symbian combined together!
N-gage have three "big"games coming soon and they are creebies,mega monsters and yamake.I cant wait to play them,but even these great games are not with "console" quality,they are just symbian games on steroids.

this article is nothing to do with n-gage stop hijacking it just to troll and sandy how can you complain about game quality when last time i googled your name when you was in n-gage chatroom you was was all over crack sites using illegal games anyway
people who dont pay a penny have no right to complain just keepp your bs to ipfart

@ ccraig,

May be N-Gage is not the topic explicitly, but since the topic has got Nokia and their devices and their games, their general games policy can be discussed, and that can't be done excluding N-Gage.
Regarding your personal attack on me, I did not buy any N-Gage games because:
1. I had an N73 and Nokia did not support it.
2. They only allowed credit card as a payment option.
Afterwards I bought an N95 8GB in December. Later, in March, they added a phone payment option (OxiCash), but, I had lost interest in N-Gage by then.
If Nokia did not consider me to be a potential customer, I think they don't bother if I use their games, in whatever form.

Everyone in this bloggy blog is comparing N900 to inferior wanabees of the ancient order (N-gage, nintendo (embarrassing) or PSP with their pathetic hardware doing pixelated jumping jacks so your mind thinks its doing DOOM 4 engine. Please. None of the older hardwares will be around when the OMAP 3430 chip with its video accelerator starts its engines and runs over everyone. Yes I know everyone drives a Honda or Toyota celica, but believe me, people who have the money (nerdy geeks) will buy the new Testarossa or the Mustang cobra because it blows away the competition (who's long overdue to be dead)- like N-gage, struggling proprietary android or iPhone - who's phone has no File explorer to look inside or true viewers and editors like PDF, DOC, Powerpoint or Excel or all image formats built-in like the N900.
Don't come to me with -- oh its got 50,000 applications. If the device had the standard files and software (like PDF, DOC, etc - reader and editor) you wouldn't have thousands of companies doing the same shtick software that should have come with the device to begin with. For example if the iPhone had a true PDF reader and editor then you wouldn't need all these wannabe PDF reader or quasi editor companies trying to sell you half-functioning software for 99cents. And if it (the iPhone) had an ability to save as in a file directory in the iPhone (where you can see where its going) then I would say it is worth it. But the N900 all software DOC, PDF, Image formats, file explorer, etc are natively included. Thats what makes this device valuable. Microsoft had it right with many software capabilities working right from the device (DOC, excel, etc), but the OS software has always been frustratingly buggy and crashy and a total turn off at times. iPhone was fun but very proprietary and we'll-tell-you-when-to-have-fun attitude with teasing upgrades like two years later with "now you can have video recording enjoyment- 3gs". When you could have had video capability since the Sony UX-60 and Palm Treo 650p world half a decade ago, please.

Well Hector1234,you should be on of the guys that think they "know "everything".First there is no doom 4.Second if the omap 3 is so powerful,why the f it lags so much on the game?And omap wan't run over anyone!You know that the first omap was incredible for it's time,and it wasn't used in awmost nothing.So this will be added in few phones,but it want make the "revolution" you are hoping.And if you are talking about weak hardware,iphone have even stronger hardware.And the only think nokia is trying to do is to take down the iphone.And they won't succeed.And your point is that n900 will be better because it have a file explorer?You know that nokia's explorers are hiding most of the system files,and no one really needs this think.If a phone have this,it means that it's included just because the phone is hard to use,and you can start loosing your files.And the other problem is that nokia'sphones operation sistems are not good and optimized at all.They are laggy,and as strong as the n900 is,you can still see that it lags on the menus,and it lags a lot on the game.

unregistered i suggest you watch Rafe's NW videos it shows Bounce revolution being played on a device and via TV-OUT it's not pixelatied and theres no lag at all you will be very surprised and your judging a device prototype on a video, final software is not even on it yet too.
I play games from the app store and i can tell you with 100% certainty the best 3D rich games from there lag sometimes or have worst control systems ever made, gameloft did best method so far with Sandstorm but it's still not perfect, have you played Gang$tar and duke nukem?
Games i enjoy most from app store are point and click games like return to mysterious island b/c most other games are compromised one way or another.
I play games on any platform i can, i have no brand loyalty when it comes to games b/c i want to play best from all worlds, i'm even buying a PS3 and already have a WII and 360 i'm telling you this b/c a real gamer dont care about a apple logo or sony one.
I just think you are stupid to write something off before it's released and running on final hardware and software.
Btw the hardware of N900 and Iphone 3GS are near identical so do your homework
Thats all i'm saying b/c it's obvious to me you are giving a biased view championing iphone and belittling nokia hardware

Bounce Evolution is a fully playable technology demonstration of the impressive gaming and 3D capabilities of the Nokia N900. Use the intuitive motion control to guide Bounce through beautiful countryside scenery, race against time on the futuristic racing track, or just enjoy beautiful landscape in the non-interactive demo. The game is rendered using OpenGL ES 2.0 hardware acceleration allowing the game's next-generation graphics to run smoothly on the sharp 800 x 480 display.

The Youtube video link is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6JfxdWg0HI

Enjoy

i hope this is no deja vu like the n95, which had the h/w accelerated SRE demo game that was impressive but turned out to be one of only a few h/w accelerated games released for it. I also think the h/w accelerator on the n900 can also be used to bring hd and hq video options in youtube. Hope someone comes up with a youtube app that makes that possible on the n900.

There is already a youtube app, zoutube that brings the higher quality videos onto the n900