Nokia PC Suite now Windows 7-compatible

And as soon as you visit the new look PC Suite site, and click the download button, to download the new Windows 7 compatible version of PC Suite, what do you then get..?

Nokia, you couldn't get a *Knees* Up in a Brewery correct...

DOH!

Not sure where this guy who gave you the heads up got his link guys, but even worse than my previous post stating they still don't mention Win 7 support, when I ignore this as being a minor web updating error, and continue to download the actual file, I get this:

...The OLD/current version anyway - 7.1.30.9, NOT any new one as referenced in the article title etc...

So something is amiss, methinks...

You CAN legitimately get it though, by firing up your existing PC Suite, then using the menu bar, and choosing the "Check For Updates" option available in one of the menus, where it WILL then show you 7.1.40.1 is available (depending perhaps on your region/location)

The article mentions this as an alternative method, but in fact for now, it's the ONLY way to get it.

HTH.

Poor show Nokia *lol*

They're probably sorting out some localization issues; your region was probably one of those affected.

Not if it IS available for "Check for updates" within the software itself, but not from the PC Suite website.

All that means is that Nokia have been slow, and lazy, and not got round to actually updating the website.

And they STILL haven't.

Even though I am now happily RUNNING 7.1.40, they don't even HAVE it on the website...

Doh.

*lol*

I haven't faced any problems with PC suite on Windows 7. 'What works on Vista, works on 7' rule applies. What support does this update bring?

All About Nokia strikes again.

No problems with version 7.1.30.9 when using on W7 32-bit.

No new versions available.

EDIT: Update available via Nokia PC Suite. But it is far from 300 megs update.

Hardeep1singh wrote:I haven't faced any problems with PC suite on Windows 7. 'What works on Vista, works on 7' rule applies. What support does this update bring?

Er - the obvious one - Windows 7 compatibility.

That is to say, things may have changed recently, but when I installed Nokia PC Suite on Windows 7, it WOULDN'T work.

You had to run the clever little "Compatibility Troubleshooter" in Windows 7 to get it to install, telling it that it works in Vista.

That was the ONLY way most people could get PC Suite installed on Windows 7 machines.

So this new version brings full Windows 7 support for straightforward installs.

As well as fixing the Nokia Video Manager conversion issue some people saw under Windows 7.

Hih wrote:All About Nokia strikes again.

No problems with version 7.1.30.9 when using on W7 32-bit.

No new versions available.

EDIT: Update available via Nokia PC Suite. But it is far from 300 megs update.

No - the only thing that strikes again is your ignorance.

Didn't you even READ my first three posts?

Seems not, when you IGNORE what I covered, and then furthermore, then go on to add an edit to say you can get it via Nokia PC Suite itself.

Which is EXACTLY what the title of this thread said, and what my own posts said already.

So AAS strikes again..?

No - I think reader arrogance and ignorance, is what strikes again. Coupled with Nokia's laziness to update their website, when the new version IS available via PC Suite update itself (which I already said, as did the article, so no need for you to tell us this, as if you were reporting something new and revealing mate).

I trust that clarifies things nicely.

No problems installing. 310MB. Thanks for the heads up.

Hmmm....

I need a linux version. Anyone?

D

Nice that it only took Nokia 3 weeks after the release of the shrink-wrapped version to officially support Windows 7. Why couldn't this have been ready on Day 1? It isn't as if Windows 7 was a big surprise.

Some people just moan for the sake of moaing.

The above statement was me moaning about moaners.

Device Stage still MIA.
FFS! 😡

I am still unable to update my 5800 firmware on my Vista laptop (cant find phone). Fortunately I have a PC with XP on it that works. So what as this update solved?

I am not able to update at all - either through the web or through PC suite

It all ways fails on downloading on my computer at 99% & pops up a box with the URL in it

http://nds2.nokia.com/files/support/global/phones/software/Nokia_PC_Suite_7_1_40_1_eng.exe

For those that want a direct link.

Geoff, Windows is probably just asking if it can run the EXE file? Or maybe your anti-virus is asking?

Re: 300MB. Yes I KNOW PC Suite says it's 30MB, but that's just to get you hooked. The 30MB bit then grabs the next 300MB or so!! I suspect if they said up front that it was 300MB, half the people downloading wouldn't bother 8-(

I'm still waiting for a version of PC Suite which can run under Linux. I think I'm gonna wait for ever.

Mine said 310MB at the very beginning.

shadamehr wrote:Er - the obvious one - Windows 7 compatibility.

That is to say, things may have changed recently, but when I installed Nokia PC Suite on Windows 7, it WOULDN'T work.

You had to run the clever little "Compatibility Troubleshooter" in Windows 7 to get it to install, telling it that it works in Vista.

That was the ONLY way most people could get PC Suite installed on Windows 7 machines.

So this new version brings full Windows 7 support for straightforward installs.

As well as fixing the Nokia Video Manager conversion issue some people saw under Windows 7.

Complete newbie, at least to this forum, so please be gentle! Hi, all, by the way, I'm Ollie as you probably gathered from the username. I am not, however made of metal... well, not entirely!

Anyhoo.. I've just ordered a new Dell laptop, as mine is getting very long in the tooth, and gone for one which has Win 7 on it (64 bit). Am I going to experience problems with the compatibility troubleshooter, since I am getting Home Premium Edition, which doesn't come with the XP compatibility mode as far as I can tell, or am I referring to something specific and different, when Microsoft list in the difference charts "Run Windows XP software" as being for Pro and Ultimate only. Does this mean I am going to have to fork over more cash, just to get PC Suite working?

For me, it's actually one of the most important parts of my phone, as it allows me to text directly from the computer, which Ovi Suite (as I understand it) seems to be missing; an odd decision given the flexibility it offers, especially to disabled users who have difficulty operating fiddly phones.

Any advice gratefully received!

Cheers! 😊

metalollie wrote:(snipped...)
Am I going to experience problems with the compatibility troubleshooter, since I am getting Home Premium Edition, which doesn't come with the XP compatibility mode as far as I can tell, or am I referring to something specific and different, when Microsoft list in the difference charts "Run Windows XP software" as being for Pro and Ultimate only. Does this mean I am going to have to fork over more cash, just to get PC Suite working?

Yup mate, you'll be relieved to know you are referring to something entirely different.

The Compatibility Troubleshooter is built into all flavours of Windows 7. You just RIGHT click on any program you are about to install, rather than normal clicking to launch it, and then choose "Troubleshoot this program" from the menu that appears.

BUT...

All completely matterless now anyway, as the latest version of Nokia PC Suite is now fully Windows 7 compliant, and should be on the Nokia site well by now.

metalollie wrote:For me, it's actually one of the most important parts of my phone, as it allows me to text directly from the computer, which Ovi Suite (as I understand it) seems to be missing; an odd decision given the flexibility it offers, especially to disabled users who have difficulty operating fiddly phones.

Any advice gratefully received!

Cheers! 😊

I couldn't agree more too either, PC Suite is MUCH MUCH better, and more feature complete, than Ovi Suite. I NEED it in order to list my Contacts Database by the NOTES Field, for which Ovi doesn't even HAVE a list view option.

shadamehr wrote:Yup mate, you'll be relieved to know you are referring to something entirely different.

The Compatibility Troubleshooter is built into all flavours of Windows 7. You just RIGHT click on any program you are about to install, rather than normal clicking to launch it, and then choose "Troubleshoot this program" from the menu that appears.

I couldn't agree more too either, PC Suite is MUCH MUCH better, and more feature complete, than Ovi Suite. I NEED it in order to list my Contacts Database by the NOTES Field, for which Ovi doesn't even HAVE a list view option.

Thanks very much.. that's very reassuring to hear! Can't be doing with Ovi AT ALL.. I like everything about the PC Suite; it's a far more logical, refined and usable piece of software than Ovi, at least in my humble opinion.

It does leave me wondering though... if Win 7 has this troubleshooting mode, WHY do they make such a big deal of Pro and Ultimate having this "Run Windows XP software" checkmarked. Surely a compatibility troubleshooter is going to do that anyway, so why advertise it as something special, or am I missing something?

Cheers :icon14:

Ollie

metalollie wrote:Thanks very much.. that's very reassuring to hear! Can't be doing with Ovi AT ALL.. I like everything about the PC Suite; it's a far more logical, refined and usable piece of software than Ovi, at least in my humble opinion.

It does leave me wondering though... if Win 7 has this troubleshooting mode, WHY do they make such a big deal of Pro and Ultimate having this "Run Windows XP software" checkmarked. Surely a compatibility troubleshooter is going to do that anyway, so why advertise it as something special, or am I missing something?

Cheers :icon14:

Ollie

Missing loads mate...

Compatibility Troubleshooter will TRY and get a program to work, using certain settings it can control, to make it seem more like a prior version of windows - this being simple things like the "name" of the operating system it pretends to identify itself with, to screen resolution, or colour depth.

But I say TRY, as that is all it does. It is not guaranteed to even work.

Windows XP Virtualization, is ENTIRELY different mate...

Imagine you have an old old scanner you rely on once in a blue moon, for which even Windows Vista never saw drivers...

Or an old custom designed bespoke application your company still relies on for once a month report generating etc.

In these examples, they would ONLY work in Windows XP itself, requiring proper drivers, in the case of a scanner, printer, etc, or needing the actual operating system, in the case of a program.

Indeed, I even have GAMES, such as Neverwinter Nights etc, that will simply NOT work under Vista or Windows 7.

Windows 7 Pro editions and up, coming with XP mode virtualization, would allow companies to run old hardware, or bespoke programs when still needed - as it literally runs a full version of Windows XP, in a Window, that you then use as the OS for your needs at that point.

...and even allow me to run old games, which I hadn't even thought of until now (me having Windows 7 Professional Edition 64 bit, thanks to the Student Discount offer scheme).

So hope that explains the considerable difference between the two mate.

shadamehr wrote:Missing loads mate...

Compatibility Troubleshooter will TRY and get a program to work, using certain settings it can control, to make it seem more like a prior version of windows - this being simple things like the "name" of the operating system it pretends to identify itself with, to screen resolution, or colour depth.

But I say TRY, as that is all it does. It is not guaranteed to even work.

Windows XP Virtualization, is ENTIRELY different mate...

Imagine you have an old old scanner you rely on once in a blue moon, for which even Windows Vista never saw drivers...

Or an old custom designed bespoke application your company still relies on for once a month report generating etc.

In these examples, they would ONLY work in Windows XP itself, requiring proper drivers, in the case of a scanner, printer, etc, or needing the actual operating system, in the case of a program.

Indeed, I even have GAMES, such as Neverwinter Nights etc, that will simply NOT work under Vista or Windows 7.

Windows 7 Pro editions and up, coming with XP mode virtualization, would allow companies to run old hardware, or bespoke programs when still needed - as it literally runs a full version of Windows XP, in a Window, that you then use as the OS for your needs at that point.

...and even allow me to run old games, which I hadn't even thought of until now (me having Windows 7 Professional Edition 64 bit, thanks to the Student Discount offer scheme).

So hope that explains the considerable difference between the two mate.

Certainly does, many thanks! Very useful to know, as there are one or two apps I'd like to move from my main PC to the new laptop, in the hope that the main one can eventually function solely as a server. Presumably I can upgrade as and when I choose, through the Anytime programme.. I don't know how student discount is generally applied, but would having a child in the midst of GCSE's qualify?

At the moment, I think Win 7 Home Premium *should* do me nicely, but it's nice to know the flexibility is there.

On another note, I noticed today that a new version of Ovi Suite has been launched, complete with text messaging and management from the PC! Maybe they were earwigging on the thread! Personally, provided it works ok, I think I will STILL stick with PC Suite, just purely because it's so simple, efficient, compact, and generally nice to work with. What I've seen of Ovi, on a mate computer (admittedly V1 of it), didn't impress me in the slightest. One or two nice looking features, but on the whole it left me wondering why anyone would bother when PC Suite does it all, and more, AND better!

Anyway, thanks for the advice, and for a warm welcome to the forum.. always daunting for a complete newbie! I've lost count of the number of forums I participate it (AVF being the main one), but with my phone playing such a dominant part in my computing and communication on a day to day basis, with everything from diaries, to address books, internet, and even making those phone calls (like they were designed for!), I can see me spending quite a bit of time here. I've always been a fan of Symbian, right back to when I had an old Psion, through to my Sony P910i, and my 5800. Good, reliable OS, that I'll take over Apple ANY day of the week!

Anyhoo.. cheers again :icon14:

Ollie

PC Suite has always worked great with my N80 and now N85. A couple of months ago I did the "natural" upgrade to Ovi Suite. It worked great . . . for one month. After the firmware upgrade (done when I had to send the phone for warranty service), Ovi would not sync. It kept saying I needed to log onto Nokia.com and Ovi.com when I already was. After reinstalling and trying everything I could read on the net, I finally gave up, spent 3 hours cleaning all Nokia stuff off the computer and reinstalled the new Windows 7 x64 compatible PC Suite 7.1.40.1. Now everything works perfect again. Just like before. It will be a LONG time before I try Ovi Suite again.

Ben