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Another vote for a two-box solution.... and JoikuSpot

12 replies · 4,107 views · Started 01 December 2009

As I observed almost a year ago, the pairing of a Symbian smartphone and an Apple iPod Touch makes a huge amount of sense in terms of their complimentary strengths. And now Mike Macias is rightly making similar observations, pointing out that the Nokia E71 armed with JoikuSpot (for sharing its data connection via Wi-Fi) makes a perfect partner for the latest 2G iPod Touch. The best of both worlds? Food for thought, at least!

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This is a good idea. Actually I have been doing this off and on for about a year. JoikuSpot is simply a must have app. While in New York, I purchased an AT&T card, slammed it in the old N86, fired up JoikuSpot, connected to my iPhone and I was out and about. I saved the cost of using hotel Internet, which was expensive simply by having JoikuSPot handy.

@seki,

While I am a Nokia fan, I am also realistic. Apple and Android have shown that hi-end hardware specs are not necessarily needed to have a winning design. Both have shown software is where the next battle is to be won and Nokia is currently falling behind. I hope that Maemo puts Nokia back on the map but I do not see the N900 as a main stream device. Nokia will have to introduce Maemo into more low-end devices to appeal across a broader base.

I wouldn't disagree that JoikuSpot is an essential piece of kit for all S60 users.

However, having done a test of JoikuSpot for a review I wrote (yet to be published), I don't think it is practical for regular and extended use. Having both the 3G and WiFi chips constantly running causes your handset to dramatically heat up. In my test, I burned through a BP-4L in an E55 in 30 minutes!

So, JoikuSpot, great for emergency use. Definitely not part of your everyday two box solution (unless you want to carry around several spare batteries).

davidgilson wrote:I wouldn't disagree that JoikuSpot is an essential piece of kit for all S60 users.

However, having done a test of JoikuSpot for a review I wrote (yet to be published), I don't think it is practical for regular and extended use. Having both the 3G and WiFi chips constantly running causes your handset to dramatically heat up. In my test, I burned through a BP-4L in an E55 in 30 minutes!

So, JoikuSpot, great for emergency use. Definitely not part of your everyday two box solution (unless you want to carry around several spare batteries).

I've been using JoikuSpot for over a year, its been a useful app, although less so of late.

Initially I used it for the iPod Touch and occasionally on my laptop whilst out and about. Browsing speeds via the N95 were pretty good.

One time had to put it into action as our Virgin broadband went out of commission for a day - it wasn't 30 minutes of life, more like a couple of hours, and the heat in the phone was surprising.

I almost miss the iPod Touch now - I really shouldn't have drowned it. Now I'm finding that the browsing experience isn't really that different on Symbian.

I've been using JoikuSpot for a long time now. Highly recommended app for short bursts.
The battery in my N82 does heat up considerably. Can't help but think it can't be good for it though, but hey, batteries wear out.

I am having this type of combination

new iPod touch 32
Nokia e 90 with 3g internet + spare 4bl battery and USB battery charger
blackbery Bold for bb mail and office calls
3600mAh extrabatery pack with USB charging for all devices

Question:
how much can I count on a 3h browsing from iPod using joiku (nice offer they curently have)

Funny, I find the E71 itself to be a nearly perfect one-box solution. I can't even count the number of separate devices which I do not need to carry because the E71 replaces all of them (and I'm enough of a geek that I've been making a list of those devices!).

For the sake of this discussion, the E71 plays music very well (and lots of it from a 16 GB card), plays videos just fine, and is truly superb for internet access (with not just several great browsers, but also essentials like PuTTY and MidpSSH with a real hardware keyboard, an FTP client, and so on).

So, just what would a proprietary Apple media player buy me, other than an extra device with non-swappable batteries, no usable input device, and the need for more proprietary accessories to lug around, which provides no additional functionality? If I want to bring along a second device, it's the Eee PC 900 (dual booting XP and Linux). If not, the E71 alone is king.

As far as JoikuSpot, it is great in an emergency, but indeed not something to be used regularly. Bluetooth dialup networking works very nicely, and since BT is a much lower power protocol than WLAN, gives many hours of battery life on a charge with constant use of a laptop or netbook sharing its connection. A lesser side benefit is that a micro BT dongle on a laptop takes less power from its battery than does a WLAN chipset as well.

On a more practical note, I hope the N900 ends up supporting BT DUN both ways. That device could make a sensible choice as the second box, considering that I already carry secondary phones anyway. I really wish they had used the same battery as the E71, the way the E61 and N800 let me swap batteries at will...

I like this app for emergency uses, but if you are carrying your laptop case around, why not also carry the Nokia data cable? You can still surf on your laptop. And if you have one of the recent micro USB port phones, the data cable will also simultaneously charge your phone, ensuring that your browsing/surfing does not drain the phone battery.