Continuing the ping pong legal battle between Apple and Nokia over patents and IP, Apple have filed with the International Trade Commission asking for a US import ban on Nokia products... mirroring the complaint Nokia made to ITC about Apple. While escalating quickly, this progression of claim and counter-claim is to be expected as both companies legal departments engage in brinkmanship before negotiation.
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bring that unholy sheep of apple on to the altar for sacrifice. Go Nokia.
Screw Apple. "mirroring the complaint that Nokia made"
I hope they'll both go all the way, that way a lot of ridiculous patent claims will be thrown out from either party.
The bottom line is that apple is using some critical nokia patents that are crucial and fundamental for cell phone technology. Nokia at most is using something as minor as kinetic scrolling or similar. Small potatos if you ask me.
It looks like these Apples live in the far past . Never heard of World Trade Negotiations ? Do they like to start a 17th century Trade War ?
Nokia could go ahead and have the Apples banned from the rest of the world (including the European Market) . They are too sour !
😊 Regards jApi NL
Boo de frickin hoo, like Nokia'd hurt from being cut off from the US.
Apple on the other hand...
Both Nokia and Apple throwing their toys out of their strollers!
Saying that, Apple have had somewhat of a history of not paying royalties. They've ( Apple ) just been hit by a complaint from Kodak.
The ball is now on Nokia's court. Let see what will Nokia do? This game is getting very exciting
I am wondering why Nokia did not sue RIM as well. RIM is actually more successful than Apple.
what can we nokia users benefit from this exciting lawsuit?
multitouch on capacitive?
shut up the apple fans?
nokia market share rises significantlly?
or something else?
what can we nokia users benefit from this exciting lawsuit?
I'd go for 'something else':
More delays and a continued lack of general strategy from Nokia as their management are distracted by legal shenanigans.
Unregistered wrote:
I am wondering why Nokia did not sue RIM as well. RIM is actually more successful than Apple.
probs because RIM payed up or did some patent swapping. Apple being Apple wouldn't wanna pay up and the only patent that Apple have that would be valuable to Nokia that i can see is the Mutli-touch/interface one/s, which would make the iPhone seam ridiculous
steff2632
Everybody join in to the tune of Bruce springsteen Born in the USA
Banned in the USA
I was
Banned in the USA
I agree to the fact that telephony issues that is rumored to be used by Apple by some means was a heavier copyright conflict. For some, it might look like that it is Nokia who copied more. It was the interface navigations, they say. It is the user interface.. And for majority of people, user interface is more likely to be noticed to be copied than inner telephony technologies because from the word intself "user interface", it is the just a physical attribute easily noticed by, er, user. Unless otherwise understood by blessed intelligent and techie people (including Nokia fanboys), it is indeed Apple who must plead, "Please Forgive Me."
However, America is not a big contributor to Nokia sales, I believe. The competition is getting tastier. And the connection of Nokia to Apple is still like what is between the same poles of two magnet. But, the bottomline is that, we, consumers will benefit as both of them struggle hard enough to make us satisfied.
~Marvin from Philippines
Unregistered wrote:I agree to the fact that telephony issues that is rumored to be used by Apple by some means was a heavier copyright conflict. For some, it might look like that it is Nokia who copied more. It was the interface navigations, they say. It is the user interface.. And for majority of people, user interface is more likely to be noticed to be copied than inner telephony technologies because from the word intself "user interface", it is the just a physical attribute easily noticed by, er, user. Unless otherwise understood by blessed intelligent and techie people (including Nokia fanboys), it is indeed Apple who must plead, "Please Forgive Me."However, America is not a big contributor to Nokia sales, I believe. The competition is getting tastier. And the connection of Nokia to Apple is still like what is between the same poles of two magnet. But, the bottomline is that, we, consumers will benefit as both of them struggle hard enough to make us satisfied.
~Marvin from Philippines
To determine what a user finds most likely to be noticed in 'mobile phone', I suggest we give both manufacturers their way. Nokia can no longer have kinetic scrolling, and Apple can no longer have cellular network connections. Which phone do you think most people would use?
@Roller
iPhone. Because the current one sucks at cellular communication that it has been the butt of many jokes, and yet people still buy it.
I seem to recall that creative labs sued and won around $100m + from apple for patent infringment on the ipod interface,apple may have polished it a bit but they definately didn't invent the mp3 player or the wheel interface.I won't buy apple products until that meglamanic Jobs is gone.
Unregistered wrote:Boo de frickin hoo, like Nokia'd hurt from being cut off from the US.Apple on the other hand...
Actually. Nokia's dumphones sell well enough in the US, so it would hurt them.
I'd sooner use a Sony Walkman as a mp3 player. But yes, there was little that was original when the ipod came out, just that celebrities such as Beckham were spotted with one which increased the hype. Thanks to the ipod's success, the ipod Classic now sells at an absolute bargain i think.
These lawsuits are a bit late in the day though aren't they? Apple already have a huge fanbase because of the excellent App Store, so this is like shutting the gate after the horse has bolted.
Unregistered wrote:@RolleriPhone. Because the current one sucks at cellular communication that it has been the butt of many jokes, and yet people still buy it.
Mine works perfectly well thankyou. Great call quality as well.
I like the iphone, but it is about time Apple stopped thinking of itself as the US government and sticking it's fingers into as many international pies as possible...
Unregistered wrote:Mine works perfectly well thankyou. Great call quality as well.
Good for you. I know of several places where iPhone 3G S have no signal, yet cheap basic phones work perfectly well. Same network, several phones, same result. I'm a bit disappointed that with all the rumours about what the new iPhone 4 will do, none mention this simple fundamental voice telephony/network connection function being improved. Surely they have to get the basic stuff right?
Unregistered wrote:
These lawsuits are a bit late in the day though aren't they? Apple already have a huge fanbase because of the excellent App Store, so this is like shutting the gate after the horse has bolted.
That makes no sense at all.