Lifecasting opens up the geo-location social web for Nokia

There might be another reason this creepware hasn't taken off yet - people don't want it!

Lifecasting doesn't make Nokia a "21st Century company" - just one that fatally misjudged the needs of the market.

Twitter has had this functionality since last summer. It's supported (but disabled by default) by many mobile twitter clients, including the one I use. The reason why you probably weren't aware that tweets could be geotagged is that it's not a very popular Twitter feature because, as Unregistered already said above, people don't like it.

"Google added personal tracking and status updates to Google Maps with Google Latitude last year but it never caught on in the ways some people (e.g. Steve!) expected. I suspect that the Latitude experience has been noted by Nokia and thus their approach is doing the opposite to what Google did, as you'll see below."

I thought it was the other way around , google noted nokia's friend view and then made google latitude

Very verey interesting it's something that instinctively I'm quite cautious about broadcasting but could see use of bar location to help lost friends find you or stuck in snow at location X a service for friends all of which is already do-able but as you say one button push makes it a plausible reality for a wide user base.

Still makes me bit nervy tho 😮 and no that's not a guilty conscience (err mostly)' definitley would be a turn off and onner (I sound like creature comforts Ad).

Unregistered wrote:There might be another reason this creepware hasn't taken off yet - people don't want it!

Lifecasting doesn't make Nokia a "21st Century company" - just one that fatally misjudged the needs of the market.

Fatally?? Who died?

its funny because i too thought google latitude was, and still is, a GREAT idea that would have taken off. i dont know why it hasnt, i guess the market really doesnt want it. i mean i tried it, and used it here and there, but i have a rather boring life so not many friends that i need to keep track of. but if i DID i certainly could see me using something like latitude. i'm baffled why other more "social" people are not using it.

oh the other issue i had was the people i DO know werent using it and i cant make them install google maps onto their phone. so if they dont use it, its not useful to me.

RogerPodacter wrote:its funny because i too thought google latitude was, and still is, a GREAT idea that would have taken off. i dont know why it hasnt, i guess the market really doesnt want it. i mean i tried it, and used it here and there, but i have a rather boring life so not many friends that i need to keep track of. but if i DID i certainly could see me using something like latitude. i'm baffled why other more "social" people are not using it.
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OK, so you've fiddled around so you've got good GPS reception where you are, perhaps indoors.... then you've got your data connection continually connecting and your maps app running.

I tried latitude out on a few phones and all the GPS processing and data transmission absolutely hammered the battery.

So, I suspect like the vast majority of people, if I want people to know where I am I phone them up and tell them. Or text them. It's yet another solution looking for a problem.

I use latitude all day, every day and have noticed no impact on the (N86) battery at all. Same goes for my wife's 5800XM. It also replaces any calling or texting about if I'm on my way home, a simple call of "got yer maps on?" in the morning is enough to keep us both informed all day. And there's always the manual location setting for maintaining visibility while making those illicit trips to Maplin. Hoping lifecasting will be as flexible and un-intrusive.

Unregistered wrote:I use latitude all day, every day and have noticed no impact on the (N86) battery at all. Same goes for my wife's 5800XM. It also replaces any calling or texting about if I'm on my way home, a simple call of "got yer maps on?" in the morning is enough to keep us both informed all day. And there's always the manual location setting for maintaining visibility while making those illicit trips to Maplin. Hoping lifecasting will be as flexible and un-intrusive.

Congratulations on acquiring the worlds only pair of magic phones.

And having a strangely unnatural lifestyle.

Another technology most people actively dislike and do not want. Maybe they will soon sell a premium service - a guarantee that your phone will not post your location on the internet.

Reminds me of another dead end - front facing camera for video calls. I have yet to see anybody making a video call on a cell phone.

Unregistered wrote:Congratulations on acquiring the worlds only pair of magic phones.

And having a strangely unnatural lifestyle.

Wrong...

There must be TWO pair of these magic phones then, in fact, ney, THREE, as me, my partner, and my son do this, all the time as well as the poster you responded to, using Google Latitude also, with minimal battery impact, and maximum "where are you at just now" flexibility and knowledge.

Oh, and so there's clearly more than one lot of people who live unnatural lifestyles too then.

Oh but wait, maybe we're no such thing at all.

Maybe YET ANOTHER "unregistered" user (one day this bloomin' site will BAN guest posting), sprouts forth another load of codswallop, offers absolutely ZERO evidence to support it, expects the world to take his word for it, and furthermore, will no doubt break into abuse, when challenged sensibly over his post.

*lol*

/sarcasm alert, in case you didn't spot it...

Here's a SERIOUS question to ANYONE prepared to answer it...

"What gives any one of you the right, to tell us the WHOLE WORLD doesn't want this technology?"

(See any number of posts above, as to who this could be aimed at).

I WANT IT.

MY PARTNER WANTS IT.

MY SON WANTS IT.

MY THREE MATES ON MY LATITUDE FRIENDS LIST WANT IT.

THE PEOPLE UP ABOVE WHO SAY THEY USE THIS LOTS WANT IT.

So will you please DO US A FAVOUR.... STOP telling us all the whole world does not want this.

It's maybe more than fair to say that the vast majority do not want it. I will happily accept that claim.

But hey, just a minute... NO ONE FORCES YOU TO USE IT, just because it happens to EXIST.

[SIZE="3"]If 'you' don't want it, fine and dandy. But please, stop making claims NO ONE wants it, and risk those that DO lose out on it as a result by companies no longer developing for it, when instead you can quietly go about your business, completely unaffected by the existence of these technologies, and that way those that DO want it, won't lose out on it, and those like you, that don't, do not suffer any inconvenience or privacy issues at all either.[/SIZE]

So, back to my original question, I ask again, what on earth is so hard about that...?

Well...?

Ovi Maps 3.03 does not have the stand by widget, tested in a couple of Minis and no widget.

Here's a question, perhaps some of the more recent posters can answer.

What gives them the right to tell other people what they can post? Are they self appointed moderators?

If you don't like what you read then ignore it and go quietly about your business completely unaffected by the existence of these posts. Or better still counter the arguments with facts you can back up.

Nobody forces you to pay attention. Do you not think that denying someone an opinion is far worse than just disagreeing? It is a vey self important, selfish and extremely arrogant to believe that a discussion forum is a place where you tell people you don't agree with to shut up.

It is also very hypocritical to suggest that 'no-one wants' and then also to claim that somebody is suggesting that the 'whole world' doesn't want latitude when clearly they are not suggesting that.

Somebody just said that Latitude "hasn't caught on'. Other people discussed reasons why. You suggested that people should not post because your family and your mates use it. Brilliant debate. I congratulate you.

Breaking news. This world and even this forum is not all about you. They are just opinions, and people have a right to them, just as you have a right to disagree.

Anybody who wants to see the effect that GPS has on a battery can use the power measuring app that Nokia supply and see for themselves. Instructions are right here on AAS.

Re: the widget. Yes it does. It's called 'Share location' - look under 'S'...

Oh, and you need to restart the phone to see it. 8-)

Steve

thanks Steve, found the widget after restart.

Can anyone help me? the lifecasting login will simply NOT accept my facebook login credentials when i click on share in ovi maps. i've tried so many times now, i even tried my nokia login info just in case. but it wont accept my facebook login. and i've triple checked. anyone know what is wrong? yes i did a reboot too.

RogerPodacter wrote:Can anyone help me? the lifecasting login will simply NOT accept my facebook login credentials when i click on share in ovi maps. i've tried so many times now, i even tried my nokia login info just in case. but it wont accept my facebook login. and i've triple checked. anyone know what is wrong? yes i did a reboot too.

This happened to me. This is not going to be very helpful but I persevered and it eventually accepted it. I have a feeling that the servers are busy, so many new users all coming on at once, it just isn't able to process all the requests.

ok thanks but i've been trying it for 2 days now. and also tried at all hours of the night. the servers cant be busy ALL the time.

RogerPodacter wrote:ok thanks but i've been trying it for 2 days now. and also tried at all hours of the night. the servers cant be busy ALL the time.

I couldn't get it to work yesterday on the first day, but it worked about 4th attempt today and has been OK since.

Some more advice I've found is to make sure that your Ovi account details, user name and password have the box checked to save the information before you attempt the facebook login. I had a trawl round google earlier looking for similar sufferers and there were some people testing the beta that were having the same problem.

I just tried it and its brilliant as far as I am concerned. GPS found my location, clicked on share location, added a comment and photo and uploaded to Facebook. Checked my Facebook account and there it was with a link to OVI maps in Facebook, so friends could see where I was. Couldnt be easier.

This sharing location service will be great for me because I travel a lot. I can update friends about what fabulous wonder of the world I am at and even post a pic and comment while on the fly.

My only problem is where I live we dont have unlimited data plans, so too pricey really. Still could be useful on the road if I wait until I get to a cafe with wifi.

Unless I lived abroad and travel abroad, I wouldnt use it. I would just text my friends where I am and send a pic via MMS.

Unregistered wrote:I just tried it and its brilliant as far as I am concerned. GPS found my location, clicked on share location, added a comment and photo and uploaded to Facebook. Checked my Facebook account and there it was with a link to OVI maps in Facebook, so friends could see where I was. Couldnt be easier.

This sharing location service will be great for me because I travel a lot. I can update friends about what fabulous wonder of the world I am at and even post a pic and comment while on the fly.

My only problem is where I live we dont have unlimited data plans, so too pricey really. Still could be useful on the road if I wait until I get to a cafe with wifi.

Unless I lived abroad and travel abroad, I wouldnt use it. I would just text my friends where I am and send a pic via MMS.

ps. The weather service is great too if you travel. Found me and had an accurate weather forecast. Very useful when you get off a plane.

Nokia seem to be suddenly hitting big again with a series of sweeteners, they seem to be turning the corner.

I see no reason for them to slow down, especially with the rumoured C series announcement imminent.

Unregistered wrote:Nokia seem to be suddenly hitting big again with a series of sweeteners, they seem to be turning the corner.

I see no reason for them to slow down, especially with the rumoured C series announcement imminent.

Ya Nokia, just give me a nice big capacitive screen with current standard specs, a zippy OS and I'll dump my Ipod touch/N86 combo.

Unregistered wrote:Ya Nokia, just give me a nice big capacitive screen with current standard specs, a zippy OS and I'll dump my Ipod touch/N86 combo.

Somebody did speculate that the C in C series stands for Capacitive. They are nice in normal use but a bit crap for many situations.

Anyway, I am surprised AAS hasn't covered the C series. Nokia registered the trademark at the same time they registered X series.

I've been playing more with these new map functions. Excellent work, I think that Nokia must have decided to buck up about 6 months ago and the results are now just coming through.

Worth the wait so far.
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