Despite expectations that Ovi Maps 3.3 with free navigation would hit the Nokia N97 in a firmware update, it has popped up on Software Update (in the Applications folder) anyway as a 8MB download. Obviously, it's not recommended if you're starting off with less than about 30MB of free space on disk C: - in which case, you're better off waiting for it in a firmware release. Do please comment if you spot this for another Nokia phone that wasn't previously covered!
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Interesting advance by Nokia. That tells me that the firmware update has probably been delayed and they are trying to avoid the fallout! :redface:
After a recent WSOD (well, 2 days ago) I reformatted and noticed that I had 56MB free on C drive so have put the N97 mini version on for testing. Works well, but I can see how to the non tech user this update is not going to install because of space limitation.
I expect the guy responsible for the C drive kept his job by coming back with the N97 mini. 🙄
I raised this on the AAS N97 forums already...
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum//forum/thread/92568/
Note to the wise: If you have the beta version of Ovi Maps installed, uninstall it first. Mine wouldn't install until I removed it.
It would not surprise me if the person responsible for the lack of ram on the N97 got reassigned elsewhere. Seriously how much money could they really save by adding a a few more megs when the devices ships with 32gigs on E drive.
Installed and working fine. But same lame GPS feature that doesn't use Internet as an AP for A-GPS... so every time I change my SIM from Airtel (India) to TMO or ATT (USA) I have to redefine things... really lame.
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@phazlehurst: That's forced by the technology - Internet would imply a group that was topped by Wi-Fi, but Assisted GPS needs a cellular connection so that the cell tower location can be added into the 'grabbing ephemeris data' mix.
Unregistered wrote:It would not surprise me if the person responsible for the lack of ram on the N97 got reassigned elsewhere. Seriously how much money could they really save by adding a a few more megs when the devices ships with 32gigs on E drive.
How much money? Well I haven't looked inside one of these, but perhaps Nokia are constrained because they have had a custom chip done, and are constrained by contract to buy a few hundred million? That might explain why a 250 euro and a 600 euro device have broadly similar internal hardware specs and why a new device and one released over 12 months ago are also similar.
The the C: drive is hard set in the chip, whilst E: connects via a slower bus to expansion RAM then Nokia can only tweak the software to get a few more MB. A difficult one to wriggle out of I would guess.
It's not like you can just open the case and just shove in a couple of new DIMMS.
As far as I'm informed:
The 32GB E: drive is a slow external eMMC drive.
Whereas the 256MB? C: drive is a nandflash drive, which is fast, but quite expensive.
I installed the n97 mini version on my n97 classic when it first came out, runs great, compass seems stable, and gps is quick as. Just wondering, what are the ramifications of low amounts of c: space? I've got about 22 megs left now, but have never had any problems with running out of space, and have heaps of apps installed (I always use mass storage where possible). I do NOT use email on the device, so maybe that is where most folk are running into trouble? are these hard coded to c:?
Could any one tell me why since I updated to v 20, my Software update client always says �all applications are up-to-dated�?
It was not important until now with Maps 3.3.
I ma running v20.0.19, RM-505 Language set: Spain (05)
maybe nokia remember
some n97 (unbranded) still v11
Latest available software for Nokia N97, product code 0587239
Version: 11.0.021
sorry i now is not here the place to say this but i very dissapointed with nokia
ps: sorry my english
phazlehurst wrote:Installed and working fine. But same lame GPS feature that doesn't use Internet as an AP for A-GPS... so every time I change my SIM from Airtel (India) to TMO or ATT (USA) I have to redefine things... really lame.P
actually u can. theres a workaround for this. despite what they say about having to use 3G/EDGE/GPRS data, u can actually install BirdStep SmartConnect (its free @ http://www.birdstep.com/Products/Birdstep/SmartConnect/) and create an AP in the app pointing to ur wifi.
the AP that is created in the app is classified as packet data. so u can instruct AGPS to use the new AP for AGPS 😊
and before any of u out there say this doesnt work, i m using it on my nokia n78 and i get a TTFF in under 5 sec
Hi
Can you please tell me wheteher i can use this application on my samsung omnia hd i8910.
i guess all N97 apps cud run on my mobile.
but it being a nokia apps i am unsure of.
Can anybody help me with this.
Thanks in advance.
Just wanted to share that the AGPS finally works for me. This is a big plus. Although no where near as fast as Googlemaps, at least i can get positioned.
Downloaded yesterday. It worked fine. The cold lock without AGPS has been surprisingly fast. No problems during the use while I was driving.
About the memory, I started from about 43 MB and now I have about 30 MB but I did not notice any slowdown.
I think this is a great added value...
Hi Can any body who has used ovi maps and google maps to great extent can tell me what is the difference between them.
I have used only google maps.
1. You have option to put favorites for particular locations that are important to you.
2. Without net also if you have the maps in your cache you can utilise GPS very well.
slitchfield wrote:@phazlehurst: That's forced by the technology - Internet would imply a group that was topped by Wi-Fi, but Assisted GPS needs a cellular connection so that the cell tower location can be added into the 'grabbing ephemeris data' mix.
Don't buy that steve... this AP is just for saying here's the coords 123,123, 123 from the GPS,... tell me where the hell is that.
But either way, even if you did use Internet, they could ignore Wifi...
This is a lame feature EOS.
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No, no, I'm telling you HOW Assisted GPS works. It's not a debate 8-)
Loaded onto N97 last night tried it out today in north London. Works very well. Near instant GPS lock, very accurate directions and the "surfer dude" voice will get really on my nerves.
hmmm something's not right :/ when i open the sw updater application there is no option to update ovi maps... how it is possible? it's unbranded version, with newest sw (20.0.019). how do i get my free licence then? did anyone have similiar problem?
please, help!
I have checked updates both on my phone via the menu and via software updater on my pC and I get no new software result in both places. My software version is 12.2.024. Should a USA version N97 have a 20.X.XXX software available? Are any other US ersion N97 owners able to get Ovi maps nav through software updater?
Will they ever support the E90 (or any other FP1 device for that matter), or does anyone know how to get it to work on an E90?
Im waiting for ovi maps 3.03 for n86-8mp an waiting for new firmwares included ovi.
OK, they made the firmware/software update available to my code of the N97 but Ovi Maps 3.03 was not part of it. I'm not lost nor is there anywhere I need to go that I can't find w/o use of Ovi Maps but.........................
Unregistered wrote:Im waiting for ovi maps 3.03 for n86-8mp an waiting for new firmwares included ovi.Use another 3rd edition version of Ovi Maps - works fine. Downloadlinks here.
Just for your information, i've got free navigation on my n95 with maps v2.0. I'm in switzerland it the moment, if that makes any difference. I've been reading these articles, slightly frustrated by the fact that the n95 hasn't got free navigation yet, and thought i'd have a play with it....
I loaded maps, connected to my wireless network...&...it will allow me to do "walk to" or "drive to" routes, i've been able to download voice navigation, and have the option to download traffic info, all free.....not sure what i've stumbled upon, but if it helps someone else then great!
Jon
correction to the above post.....the traffic info still requires a paid for license.....sorry for the false info on that