Yes, I know many people will say they want the phone to be more stable, smoother, have a new UI and whatnot... but I'm talking about new plausible features that would make the phone a little more fun to use. What do you have in mind?
I'll get us started... how about widescreen photographs?
Think about it... we have widescreen video recording on our N97s, so why not widescreen photography? To produce a widescreen video, the N97 simply records at it's normal quality and size and then chops off the top and bottom (and some may rightly argue there's a little digital zooming going on as well). The same technique could be used to full effect with still photos, especially those of distant landscapes.
There currently is a way to make widescreen photos directly on our phones, but it's a lengthy procedure (open photo, edit it, rotate 90�, crop with wallpaper aspect ratio, rotate 270�, save), so I for one would like to see it done automatically in the Camera application. It can't be hard to implement, surely...
I've attached a couple of photos to show what I mean. These are photos taken with my N97 at Cheshire Zoo that have been cropped (not resized) in Photoshop to a 16:9 aspect ratio.
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Multiple home screen pls?? Its been in Symbian^3 and like to have in my mini.... afterall you brought it after paying almost $500 and not having a feature that a $200 phone has is quite embarrassing..
and there is 2 thing I always find frustrating that Nokia cripple the office part of N series phone(read only doc, trial Pdf reader) and entertainment part of E series phone.. Nokia please understand that N series owner do have a JOB and E series owner like to have some life... understand your flagship device need to perform out of box.. please
Well I am asking too much..
to_sukanta wrote:Multiple home screen pls?? Its been in Symbian^3 and like to have in my mini.... afterall you brought it after paying almost $500 and not having a feature that a $200 phone has is quite embarrassing..
That's quite a plausible request. Nokia have made changes to the homescreen once with v20 so that we could move the clock around, and they completely changed it on the 5800 on FW v40. Maybe when they improve CPU and RAM usage in future updates they could add a 2nd homescreen. I'm not sure it could handle any more than that though.
I'm not aware that we could move clock widget.. thanks for the info.. (V11 on mini) but it looks better when the clock in on top of other widgets.. But having a option is always better thing..
And for multiple home screen.. I don't think it require much more CPU and RAM (a bit of RAM I understand) caz all the widgets are essentially a version of native web browser running background...
I am perfectly happy if Nokia restrict 2/3 homescreens rather than unlimited no on symbian^3. But I dont like to shuffle all my 20 widget and place them 1 by 1. We may need more than 2 live widget... (other 2 are application shortcut)..
No i'm day dreaming now..
a bit of off topic.. but this is 3rd day on a stretch I'm getting from single charge.. Previously I need to charge every night.. and the only change I did is I didnt fire up GPS and wifi..
2-3 hr wifi and 20-30 min GPS can take away as much as 2/3 of the total charge.... Is those chip are so power hungry???
zxon wrote:There currently is a way to make widescreen photos directly on our phones, but it's a lengthy procedure (open photo, edit it, rotate 90�, crop with wallpaper aspect ratio, rotate 270�, save), so I for one would like to see it done automatically in the Camera application. It can't be hard to implement, surely...
I'm not sure why you'd need this feature, when all cropping operations can be done on a computer. Why would you need to lose data on the phone image, when presumably it will ultimately end up on a computer anyway? Unless you want to upload these images directly to the internet?
jamessmith01 wrote:I'm not sure why you'd need this feature, when all cropping operations can be done on a computer. Why would you need to lose data on the phone image, when presumably it will ultimately end up on a computer anyway? Unless you want to upload these images directly to the internet?
That's like saying we don't need widescreen video recording, cos we can crop the videos on a computer anyway, but not everyone knows how to do this or has the facility to do so if they did. Adding such a feature for photos as well shouldn't take any more than a couple of kilobytes of code in the OS, because the ability to crop is already there.
I do tend to upload a lot of my photos to Flickr and Facebook directly with my phone. I really should've said that in the first place 😃
to_sukanta wrote:And for multiple home screen.. I don't think it require much more CPU and RAM (a bit of RAM I understand) caz all the widgets are essentially a version of native web browser running background...
I am perfectly happy if Nokia restrict 2/3 homescreens rather than unlimited no on symbian^3.
Hmm, perhaps not. If the version of the native web browser is already running, it theoretically shouldn't take up twice as much CPU and RAM to have a second screen... unless the user adds any power hungry widgets like AccuWeather.
I agree, having 2-3 homescreens is very acceptable. One homescreen is too restrictive, and 20+ would utterly baffle most users.
Umm, I can think of a few things...
1) DivX Codec built into unit
2) Support for iTunes files over the mystical 12 minute ish limit (also in Nokia Music) that stops Artist, Album and Song titles being read
3) SIP Client built into firmware ala N95
4) Fix on memory leaks especially in email when opening an attachment, it just sits there somewhere on your phone
5) More integration to social networking websites like Twitter, Facebook, Flickr and Youtube etc that aren't so, erm, deeply hidden in the system or just simplistic little widgets that open something else.
6) Flash Player in Web Browser - let me play Farmville on my phone
What I would like is :
1) better management of the RAM. When the phone starts up; contacts, log, clock, messaging are opened in the back ground. These cannot be closed by the user in the normal way. I use Taskman to do it. However if any of these are used again, they remain open in the back ground. As I use more applications, the available RAM some what decreases when i am done with all the applications.
2) The option to install as many of the applications to the mass drive. I have the license version of Adobe Reader and Quickoffice 6.2. Both these can only be installed in C. This takes almost 6MB of C.
Again, I must iterate... plausible new features, not bug fixes! Although I'll take the opportunity to say now that all the bug fixes I've seen mentioned so far certainly have merit!
- DivX Codec built into unit - That's probably never gonna happen any time soon.
- SIP Client built into firmware ala N95 - Wasn't it included in v20 (albeit, hidden away)? *Checks* Ahh, it's only for video calls, not normal calls. Good point, sjdean!
- Fix on memory leaks especially in email when opening an attachment - A bug fix, but still something we'd like to see.
- More integration to social networking websites like Twitter, Facebook, Flickr and Youtube etc - I know you said you'd like to see this without having to use 3rd party widgets, but since they've already been made (and continually updated) I don't see this happening with the N97. Hey, I've been wrong before though. For all I know, we might see Facebook/Twitter/YouTube suddenly appear in our homescreen content list in a future update. Support for Flickr is already included in Share Online, which can be added to the homescreen, but I assume you didn't mean this when you said Flickr support?
- Flash Player in Web Browser - I have a sneaking suspicion Nokia will stick with Flash Lite for the forseeable future, especially with the lack of RAM available. It's possible Adobe might bring out a new version of Flash Lite that has much better compatibility with standard Flash games/websites, which then may make it's way onto our N97s.
- Better management of the RAM - A bug fix. We'd all like to see this, and I'm sure Nokia will try to improve upon it in subsequent updates.
- The option to install as many of the applications to the mass drive - Yes, I'd like to see this too, although I'd imagine most of the time it'd be down to the developers of the software to add this support... although Nokia themselves are amongst the list of developers guilty of this crime! Just imagine how much space we'd save if we could install Nokia Messaging, N-Gage, Ovi Maps and Ovi Contacts onto the Mass Memory instead of Phone Memory!
.. the ability to load whatever language sets you like - with font support to match.
thats all ..
Well you see zxon, with better memory management, some of the other things might be better and would improve the enjoyment of the phone.
I'd quite like to see Nokia sort our a proper RSS Widget which allows you to add multiple RSS feeds ala Google Desktop. Perhaps double, treble, quadruple height widgets (so you can can get more than 2 lines on a widget) with multiple home screens.
Kind of off topic, but in reply to people who want twitter/Facebook stuff have a look at the Communities app in Nokia Beta Labs 😊
Home Media (Ready DLNA) ...
Fold out 'Swiss Army Knife plus handy bottle opener' ?
how about a decent 'conversations' view built into messaging, SE and Apple are way ahead on this one
Conversations would be pretty cool.
Gotta agree about the DLNA thing too - the N95 had it and with the kinda phone the N97 is I really didn't expect them to ditch that.
The ability to delete ALL preinstalled apps.
Nothing major really, I'm on v20 and pretty happy, I know we wont get anything amazing and new out of future firmwares so just continued stability and optimisation would be fine with me.
Rooki wrote:Home Media (Ready DLNA) ...
Home Media, DLNA, UPnP - You mean stream media from your computer and allow your computer so stream media from it? Yes, I would go with that.
spirit44 wrote:how about a decent 'conversations' view built into messaging, SE and Apple are way ahead on this one
Well, I suspect its just the group of people I mostly converse with, but since I started twittering about via Gravity on the phone, I hardly use SMS messaging at all.
Basically, I'm still talking to the same people, via the phone, but not SMS any longer, but via Twitter.
To each his own, of course.
Regards
Neil
So its multiple homescreen... DLNA, UPnP,support for DIvx out of box, Threaded message that people want..
Apart form multiple homescreen and threaded message none of those are supposed to be a phone feature... Do you ppl really bother to open up your laptops???
or may be I'm becoming old enough that I loose connection to the gen Y... may be .. just may be..
It's a smart phone, the point is it's supposed to be able to do a lot of useful stuff.
As far as the DLNA/UPnP support goes, it's hardly a request out of the blue considering it was in the N95 and I used it once or twice, since then I've got a home media server so it would be nice to have that feature back.
Hello Sukanta,
It's a phone. I like it. Perhaps you would have doubted colour screen several years ago when the vast majority of phones were black and white. Perhaps you berate email which really belongs on a computer. I don't know what your position is on music playback either. How about cameras and WiFi? Do they belong on a phone?
The simple fact of the matter is, is that phones have got bigger and better, better screens, better processors. People want to be able to take everything with them in one pocket.
We have countless media playback devices, including iPhones and iPods. No one is really asking for a huge hardware push, just extensions to the firmware/software.
If we think about it, the N97 can already play video. I see no reason why it shouldn't therefore be able to play back DivX. Of course, DivX labs refuse to release a player for Symbian S60v5, however there is one for v3 (N95). Multiple Samsung devices are DivX certified. I see no reason why Nokia shouldn't be able to certify their firmware (or at least any upcoming phone).
DLNA/UPnP was already present on the N95.
The N97 can already play video, I see no reason it shouldn't be able to play DivX (of course DivX labs refuse to release a player for Symbian S60v5). Multiple Samsung devices are DivX certified. DLNA/UPnP whatever was already in the N95.
But call me crazy, I don't particularly want to carry around with me a music player, a camera, a video recorder, a portable media player, a computer for my email and a phone.
All that is already done on the N97. I just want it done a little differently by adding support for DivX.
UPnP,DLNA all those required to certify from there respective patent owner and need to comply there standerd... If it's not been certified till now, I really doubt that a software upgrade can make them compatible... I never miss those feature as I tend to find myself using my laptop for videos that are more than 15 min long... To me 3.2'' screen is not suitable for movie watching unless you are on move... and when I do on move.. I just watch videos that are saved in my phone.. rather than go and stream anything.. But ya every pleople have there own...
Divx support.. again I highly doubt that... samsung Omnia HD has a graphis chip with it and that's why it Divx certified.. yes I also like to have it on feature update and save myself reencoding every in specific format... but I guess I have learned to live with that problem..
Zxon asked for a plausible solution in feature update.. Except for multiple homeScreen (have doubt on it) and threaded SMS other might require a hardware upgradation... and rearely a plausible solution...
Right so we've gone from things a phone shouldn't do to things you say aren't certified.
Of course the simple retort, the N95 was capable of UPnP and also had a DivX player from DivX Labs.
Frankly I see no conceivable reason why a handset the cost of the N97 souldn't have had these two things out of the box.
