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Nokia default ring tone solution (possibly).

29 replies · 19,369 views · Started 15 March 2010

Foreword

There seems to be a universal problem with the N97 reverting back to the, annoying, Nokia default ring tone under certain circumstances, after a reboot for instance or with certain contacts.

I believe that this is because of a �time-out� in the software meaning that if a user�s ring tone/contact photo is not loaded quick enough when a call is received it will automatically default to the Nokia tone.

This is something that Nokia need to address in future firmware upgrades.

What follows, works for me:-

The ring tone

Whilst it�s useful to be able to select a track from your music library as a ringtone it does increase the chances of the time-out if it has to look for and load a 4 minute track hidden in the depths of your music library.

Therefore, it pays to trim it down to about 30 sec�s (see fig.1) and, at the same time, I convert it to .aac format, the same as the Nokia ring tones (see fig.2). You can use any audio editing programme for this. I use the free Format Factory one available here:-

http://www.pcfreetime.com/

Installation

As I mentioned before, it only adds extra time if the tone is stashed away in the deep, dark depths of you Music Library on, say, a Memory card (F: drive). Therefore, I use Y-Browser (available from the Ovi Store �1)

http://store.ovi.com/content/23372

to copy/paste from my desktop to C: and not placing it in any folders. See �Wallander ringtone fig.3.

Once in place I open my tone and select Options > Use tone > and either Assign to contact or Set as ringing tone. I then go back to the tone using Y-Browser and, because I do not want it appearing in my Gallery, I use Options > File > Attributes > and select �Yes� to Hidden (I use this method to hide my message tone and any photo�s/files I do not want my phone to display). See fig.4.

Contact Photo�s

Contact photo�s are another thing I have found that will lead to the phone defaulting to the Nokia ringtone. That is not to say that you cannot use them but in some cases they will need to be edited.

If, like me, you take head and shoulder shots on your N97, to use as Contact photo�s, there is a chance that you did so using the full 5 mega pixel setting. This, it would appear, is too large to load in the default time-out on an incoming call and will cause the phone to use the default ringtone. 640*480 is the optimum size I believe.

I therefore, have gone through my Contact photo�s in Gallery and using the built-in editor, Gallery > select photo > Options > Edit > Options > Add effect > Crop > Manual > crop the photo to reduce size. This can usually be done fairly painlessly by losing some of the background and concentrating on the face.

You can then either choose to replace you Gallery photo with the cropped version or save it with a different name. You then assign this new cropped version to your contact.

Of course, the easiest thing to do would be to take all your would-be contact photo�s using the Basic, or MMS, setting on your camera.

I know that the above is a lot of work but until Nokia can resolve the default ring tone problem this is the only workaround for me.

Attachments: fig.1.JPG fig.2.JPG fig.3.jpg fig.4.jpg

Thanks for the writeup, ian-ross.

My ringtones have always been limited to 30 seconds, and contact pictures were already trimmed to 640x360. I wonder if this is why I've never experienced the default Nokia ringtone problem.

A few more replies like yours zxon and I might knock off the "(possibly)" from the thread title. 😃

boothy wrote:Thanks Ian-Ross - I get the problem from time to time - I will give it a go

Boothy

Please let me know how you get on.

I tested the theory by using my home phone number and adding a 5MP photo and song track from my library. I then rebooted the phone and rang my mobile from the home phone.

It defaulted to that bl**dy Nokia tone.

I then edited the song and converted it to .aac and pasted it into C: and added a reduced photo contact and then rebooted my phone again and used my home phone to call again.

Voila! it worked.

Have changed all my contact photo's now and in the last 5/6 weeks it hasn't defaulted to Nokia once... touch wood. 😃

Thanks guys. I was too lazy to read over the solution but got the jist of it and deleted pictures for the contacts with a picture associated and now the rings are as they should be.

Jeff

PS> didnt even need a reboot.

Yeah I think you're on the right track (follows on from the FAQs in the Nokia support) should nail it.

I solved the issue by sticking with the Nokia deafult as my ring tone 😃

(I do feel like I'm in an epsiode of Trigger Happy TV every time my phone rings :tongue: )

Sorry mate.. I have to disagree..

I have tried many methods including the <30 sec and stick it onto C: Drive, MIDIs/MP3/MP4/3GP/AAC formats, No pictures etc and nothing will stop the seemingly random default Nokia tone.

Tried this on nearly every firmware out hoping that it will fix it but no.

I have found though that the way the phone is placed may have a contributing factor because the accelerometer is meant to be active upon a call and apparently if you flip it, it should silence the call. Maybe its a bug with this routine that causes it to mishap?

I think its really just all theories and rumours until it can be reproduced successfully so that Nokia can directly sort it out. Until then, we can all speculate..

bchliu wrote:Sorry mate.. I have to disagree..

I have tried many methods including the <30 sec and stick it onto C: Drive, MIDIs/MP3/MP4/3GP/AAC formats, No pictures etc and nothing will stop the seemingly random default Nokia tone.

Tried this on nearly every firmware out hoping that it will fix it but no.

I have found though that the way the phone is placed may have a contributing factor because the accelerometer is meant to be active upon a call and apparently if you flip it, it should silence the call. Maybe its a bug with this routine that causes it to mishap?

I think its really just all theories and rumours until it can be reproduced successfully so that Nokia can directly sort it out. Until then, we can all speculate..

Well, like I said bchliu, it works for me. 😃

I've never had that problem as i've never had a contact pic nor a ringtone, just the default tone lol

i shall try it tho at some point....

The Nokia ringtone

The ringtone "Nokia tune" is actually based on a 19th century guitar work named "Gran Vals" by Spanish musician Francisco T�rrega.
The Nokia Tune was originally named "Grande Valse" on Nokia phones but was changed to "Nokia Tune" around 1998 when it became so well known that people referred to it as the "Nokia Tune."

The tune is heard worldwide an estimated 1.8 billion times per day, about 20,000 times per second.

Mostly on N97's I would guess!

The "Special" tone available to users of Nokia phones when receiving SMS (text messages) is actually Morse code for "SMS". Similarly, the "Ascending" SMS tone is Morse code for "Connecting People," Nokia's slogan. The "Standard" SMS tone is Morse code for "M" (Message).

I have this problem occasionally and I only use the ring tones that come with the phone. I don't use any photos / images to identify callers.

dog-man

I think you'll find that people who use full song ring tones and contact photo's are experiencing the default tone on a fairly regular basis.

I now only tend to get the default ring tone if I'm connected via USB to my laptop.

Do my eyes deceive me, has Ian Ross changed his user name to Ironass? Or has it been like since for ever and I've only just realised I was mis-reading his user name, thinking it was Ian Ross but actually all along it was Iron Ass?

I hope I'm right, otherwise I think I'm going senile....

You is well right tho isn't it.

I like the new monicker it has gravity. Any issues with ball bearings?

nottmbantam wrote:Do my eyes deceive me, has Ian Ross changed his user name to Ironass? Or has it been like since for ever and I've only just realised I was mis-reading his user name, thinking it was Ian Ross but actually all along it was Iron Ass?

I hope I'm right, otherwise I think I'm going senile....

It happened only yesterday Notty 😊

I believe he's trying to beef up his street cred 🙄

Or because he's started pooing nails ...... take your pick

However, i'm sure that we will all continue to read and enjoy his informative posts, and just because he will, from now on, be referred to as Ironarse - i'm sure it does not diminish his standing in the forum ...... ok, well, maybe just a little bit :tongue: (i'm not enjoying this at all 😃 but i anticipate the backlash any moment now :tongue😊

I :love: you really Ian

Maybe he's been lifting weights and has bulked up, so in line with his new body he needs a new tougher persona. :tongue:

dog-man

ironass wrote:A few more replies like yours zxon and I might knock off the "(possibly)" from the thread title. 😃

Heehee 😃

Just for the record, my ringtones are in MP3 format so, if people are already prepared to trim their ringtones, they may not need to convert them to AAC. I started trimming them years ago, as I figured there was no need to have them any longer since the phone will only ring for 30 seconds before diverting to voicemail.

(in the words of the immortal Kenneth Williams in the the film "Carry on Cleo"😉

"Infamy! Infamy! they've all got it in for me!"

zxon wrote:Heehee 😃

Just for the record, my ringtones are in MP3 format so, if people are already prepared to trim their ringtones, they may not need to convert them to AAC. I started trimming them years ago, as I figured there was no need to have them any longer since the phone will only ring for 30 seconds before diverting to voicemail.

That's interesting zxon.

One of the times I would find the ring tone reverting to default was directly after a reboot (switching on), something that quite a few people complain of.

As you can see from the screenshot, I have two versions of my ringtone, which is the pretty basic ring tone from the TV series Wallander with Kenneth Branagh.

One is in .aac format at 331kb and the other is in .mp3 at only 104kb.

I rebooted my phone three times with each one activated and then immediately rang my mobile number.

With the .aac ring tone there was no problem.

However, the smaller .mp3 defaulted to the Nokia ring tone.

If I then rang a 2nd time, after reboot, on the .mp3 tone it would play.

Therefore, from my findings, I would have to say that it's better to err on the .aac side.

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ironass wrote:This coming from a man who's avatar is off CrimeWatch UK! 😃

...and remember, sleep well, don't have nightmares. Avatar changed now.

Just cos you have a 'hard' new name.....

😃

ironass wrote:One of the times I would find the ring tone reverting to default was directly after a reboot (switching on), something that quite a few people complain of.

Hmm, I decided to check more thoroughly to see if I suffer from the same problem. My General profile ringtone is the Top Gear tune (aka a revamped version of the All-man Brothers Band's "Jessica"😉 and, to test this out, I set a ringtone to my home number's contact as the theme tune for Have I Got News For You (which will henceforth be referred to as HIGNFY - pronounced "hig-na-fee" - cos the name's just too darned long). Both ringtones are 30 second MP3s and stored on Mass Memory. The Top Gear tune is 569Kb and the HIGNFY tune is 475Kb.

Rebooted the phone and, as the home screen was still sorting itself out, I rang it from my home number. The ringtone used? Top Gear... and it didn't show my name on the screen either, just my number. I hung up and tried again, and then it worked as normal, playing the HIGNFY tune and showing my name alongside the number. I'm guessing that, in this case, the phone simply hadn't loaded up the Contact list yet so didn't know "who" called, so no name was shown and the wrong ringtone was used.

Not sure if it's worth mentioning, but there's no photo assigned to this contact entry.

Thanks for the input zxon.

As the Tesco ad says, "Every little bit helps!"

What you have just described is along the lines of what I, and others, have been experiencing (except in my case I only have the one ringtone for everyone accompanied by "Say callers name"😉.

Could I ask your indulgence when you have 5/10 mins and ask you to to convert the HIGNFY ring tone to .aac format and repeat your experiment please.

Cheers!

ironass wrote:Thanks for the input zxon.

As the Tesco ad says, "Every little bit helps!"

Cheers!

The Tesco ad says "Every little helps" - Ian Ross would never have made such a faux pas, but then .... he's lithe and smart :tongue: