As part of the activities at its MIX10 conference Microsoft has announced that the Beta of Silverlight for Symbian is now available. Microsoft describes Silverlight as 'a cross-browser, cross-platform implementation of the .NET Framework for building media experiences and rich interactive applications for the Web on desktop computers'. The current Beta lets you run Silverlight applications and content in the standard Symbian^1 (S60 5th Edition) web browser.
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I have installed the Microsoft Silverlight Runtime to my Nokia N79,but HOW can I know if it's good to work?Is there any applications based-on the Sliverlight on the Symiban platform?
Speaking of Microsoft's presentation today, what's AAS's take on Windows Phone 7?
My impression is that Microsoft knows they won't convert the Apple fanboys or those locked in to the iTunes ecosystem, so they'll be going after both Android and Symbian/Nokia owners.
I don't think Nokia could settle for the mid to low end either. If anything is evident, it's that Windows Phone will have a range of devices from the beginner low end with Windows Phone Starter all the way to the high end. Also, Microsoft very much has a global footprint, unlike Apple, and they will be competing with Espoo in smartphones, even before the year is out.
Although I'm dubious of their chances for success (I don't think there's room for yet another mobile OS), Microsoft is coming back to the mobile fight looking to draw blood with their big cash hoard. I believe their OS is going to be released around the same time Symbian^3 and ^4, along with MeeGo get rolling.
You can try Bing App (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=184529&clcid=0x409) from Silverlight on your N97 to verify. We'll publish the Silverlight details on Nokia Beta Labs as well. We'll keep updating the blog at http://blogs.msdn.com/mgaur/default.aspx.
Microsoft Silverlight for Symbian Team
Its nice to see someone from the Silverlight team on AAS. Are there going to be standalone apps. and not only those running in the browser?
Unregistered wrote:You can try Bing App (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=184529&clcid=0x409) from Silverlight on your N97 to verify. We'll publish the Silverlight details on Nokia Beta Labs as well. We'll keep updating the blog at http://blogs.msdn.com/mgaur/default.aspx.Microsoft Silverlight for Symbian Team
I've tried it on the 5230 - its a little sluggish, but then it is a beta. Also a shame that it doesn't work under Opera, only the Symbian browser (which possibly explains it being relatively sluggish 😉 ).
Definitely liking it - looks good, definitely gives a fresher browsing experience on the device.
that's interesting:
Supported Browsers
The Nokia S60 browser is based on Webkit. Browser versions 7.1.xxx or higher are supported. However, for optimal performance and bug fixes, version 7.2.xxx or higher version is recommended.
Browser version 7.2.xxx will be available with the next firmware update. To view the browser version on Nokia N97, open the browser and select Options, then Help, and then About Application. A value similar to the following is displayed: About Application BrowserNG/7.1.18124.
This keeps a trump card in the hand of the Symbian browser, considering that I just read on El Reg that Opera Mini 5 and Mobile 10 have just been released as full release versions. As somebody mentioned that a 7.2 browser is in the pipeline I wonder what enhancements that will bring. It will be content support versus proxy minimised data speed.
Well, this is not a bad development, but I think this will bring a lot more to MS and WinPho 7 than it will to Nokia. Symbian S60 is the most established mobile platform with thousands of good applications. WinPho 7 is a brand new OS that's still on the starting blocks with nothing to it's name. Yes I know Silverlight is cross platform, and that this will probably strengthen somewhat Symbian's position with enterprise developers, but still...
The other thing is after about 25 years experience with MS products, I have a very hard time seeing how this is not going to be horribly bloated and bugged. The number of times I have encountered MS software that is not horribly bloated and bugged (beta or not) can be counted on the fingers of half a hand. MS products are almost always technical failures (at least for the first few iterations and then after that they just about get by with being 'good enough'😉 that trade solely on the MS name and 'reputation' (i.e. market clout built on years of partially illegal market tactics). MS have everything to prove with this release, as a developer I will not look too seriously upon this until MS show a leopard can change it's spots.
Unregistered wrote:You can try Bing App (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=184529&clcid=0x409) from Silverlight on your N97 to verify. We'll publish the Silverlight details on Nokia Beta Labs as well. We'll keep updating the blog at http://blogs.msdn.com/mgaur/default.aspx.Microsoft Silverlight for Symbian Team
Thanks for stopping by. I have subscribed to the blog and will definetely be keeping an eye on Silverlight.
Jimmy1 wrote:Speaking of Microsoft's presentation today, what's AAS's take on Windows Phone 7?I don't think Nokia could settle for the mid to low end either. If anything is evident, it's that Windows Phone will have a range of devices from the beginner low end with Windows Phone Starter all the way to the high end. Also, Microsoft very much has a global footprint, unlike Apple, and they will be competing with Espoo in smartphones, even before the year is out.
Although I'm dubious of their chances for success (I don't think there's room for yet another mobile OS), Microsoft is coming back to the mobile fight looking to draw blood with their big cash hoard. I believe their OS is going to be released around the same time Symbian^3 and ^4, along with MeeGo get rolling.
In general I'm quite positive on Windows Phone 7. I think it goes after the iPhone and high end Android users - perhaps not the geeks, but defintely attractive to the tech-aware who already use Microsoft services (X-Box, Zune etc). No it wont ever appeal to the Microsoft averse, but I suspect that's a relatively small and vocal minority.
The platform itself has a strong visual identity (something which really benefited the iPhone when it first came out), has strong service support (very important) and by specifying hardware and reducing on-top (TouchFlo etc) customisation should keep a uniform experience. My concern would be (a bit like the iPhone) it is designed too much for the US market. For example customising the visual identity (themes) seems to be a wek element (suprsing when you consider how strong the customisation of the home screen is) - this will have an impact in Europe and Asia.
I'm not sure how far down Microsoft can compete with 7 - that really remains to be seen - certainly not with the current 7 specs. It does feel like the end of Microsoft attempt to do a horizontal mobile platform. There is Phone Starter (Windows Mobile 6.5.x, but I don't really see that doing any better than it is now. So in one sense I think Microsoft have become a vertical player (platform wise) and are best compared to RIM and Apple.
The developer stuff out of MIX is especially interesting. The compatibility break looks the move from AVKON to Qt seem minor. But as with Qt I think it is the right thing to do. Having a unified developer framework makes sense (reminders of Objective C strategy from Apple), though as ever a lot depends on execution and it does feel a bit immature right now. The XNA stuff is an interesting approach and I think might end up being a particularly strong element.
I would never write Microsoft off - they release as much as anyone how important mobile devices are going to be for the future of technology, which is why they are investing so much into it. Personally I'm not sure how strong the fewer mobile OSs theme is - yes in the future - but right now there is too much at stake.
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I was hoping for something more between the collaboration efforts between MS and Nokia.. but at least this is a start.. :P
Seriously though.. who uses Silverlight outside MS websites? majority of the world is still Flash and will take a very considerable effort to topple that monopoly..
bchliu wrote:I was hoping for something more between the collaboration efforts between MS and Nokia.. but at least this is a start.. :PSeriously though.. who uses Silverlight outside MS websites? majority of the world is still Flash and will take a very considerable effort to topple that monopoly..
Off the top of my head, Hard Rock Cafe, the Beijing Olympics, Victoria's Secret, Toyota, The Oscars are all sites that I've had trouble viewing because of Silverlight.
But yes, flash still dominates - you would expect nothing else considering how long it's been established.
This is Microsoft crap useless software, before they release their win7, to confuse nokia users, so they can grab some costumers more, that's it...!
Think of Silverlight as a more optimized Flash that was designed to be mobile and HD friendly from the outset. While its not made great strides yet, a good chunk of future products (SharePoint, Office, and even IE) will be built with it. In addition, many of the content streams from MS and their partners will come through the use of Silverlight because of how network-optimized it is.
Its not as ubuquious as Flash - and that's actually a good thing since it doesn't have to meet every designer's need. But, it does offer another option for multimedia content delivery - and should play as half of MS's cross-platform play the other part of that being XNA.
when I go to videos on the sample site from my pc the video works and it shows silverlight by right clicking on the video but when I try to view the video from my nokia 5800 red flash 9 picture is showing up --no video
Yes you are right about this.I have also got much things about this.But you know microsoft is always good.
Hi,
Can anyone please let me know the device list which supports MS silverlight.
Is it true that only following nokia devices supports it.
Nokia N97, N97 mini, 5530, 5800
I'm trying to run MS smooth streaming application on Nokia device.
Regards,
Snehal