In All About Symbian Insight 110 (AAS Podcast 174), Rafe and Steve share news of the arrival of Ovi Map's free navigation on the N86, and the release of the Silverlight for Symbian Beta. Steve tells us about a community firmware release for the Samsung i8910 and introduces a discussion on the death of Wayfinder; Rafe talks about Navteq True (next generation digital mapping data collection) and shares some initial thoughts on Windows Phone 7 Series. You can listen to AAS Insight 110 here or, if you wish to subscribe, here's the RSS feed.
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Whilst most certainly *NOT* an official statement or an official policy; Samsung have been known to re-flash phones which have broken while installing "any" firmware update.
Incidentally, the Samsung "prototype" Windows Phone 7 Series phone demoed by Microsoft at MIX recently, was actually a Samsung i8910 with different software.
(and yes, people have started to look into making this available once Windows Phone 7 is released)
No, Stuclark, you're wrong once again. The i8910 that was running Windows Phone 7 has a different (smaller) screen. Surely that should be obvious to an i8910 owner?
I must admit to being slightly surprised that, in this day and age, a lack of memory card support, no multi-tasking and no copy&paste are not considered to be serious deficiencies.
I mean, who builds either a new OS or a new interface on an old OS and thinks, hmm, let's not bother with copy&paste, maybe no-one will notice? Absolutely ridiculous. It was stupid of Apple 2-3 years ago, and it's even more stupid of Microsoft now...
I understood that there will be copy and paste in WinMo 7, as long as it is within the same app and session, it will not be available across apps - which is also still the case with the iPhone. Symbian copy and paste seems only to work within text input controls, and so is also limited. Memory card support is easily fixed, phone manufacturers just ship with humungous memory like 128GB, not much of a step from a 64GB iPod touch really, technology is available.
The multi-tasking thing though, is a pain in arse on an iPhone, I cannot overstate how annoying it is to have to shut down a running app to read emails or reply to a text.
buster wrote:I must admit to being slightly surprised that, in this day and age, a lack of memory card support, no multi-tasking and no copy&paste are not considered to be serious deficiencies.I mean, who builds either a new OS or a new interface on an old OS and thinks, hmm, let's not bother with copy&paste, maybe no-one will notice? Absolutely ridiculous. It was stupid of Apple 2-3 years ago, and it's even more stupid of Microsoft now...
The memory card one - yes I think you can argue this - it depends on how much internal memory you have... with phones with 8GB plus internal memory the liklihood of buying a memory card becomes less for the average user.
No multitasking - WP7S has the notifications style system, which means it can do some of the things that multi-tasking enables. Need to see how this works in practise of course. Personally really like multi-tasking, but again not sure how essential it is (beyond being able to play music in background, re-open apps from saved state etc). Of all of these I consider multi-tasking to be, potentially, the biggest issue, especially if people get use to it on other mobile devices. It is certainly the one I would be most reluctant to give up.
Copy and paste - yes I want it as do power users, but if you have smart links you can take out many of the most common uses (e.g. open web links / emails addresses / calling numbers). Still think you need it for productivity style stuff - and as mentioned breifly looks like copy and paste will be coming.
I am defintely in two minds about this (and was looking to provide a counter point on the podcast. Personally some of those things I want, but does the wider market. Its the 80 - 20 rule in action in some ways.
"I understood that there will be copy and paste in WinMo 7, as long as it is within the same app and session, it will not be available across apps - which is also still the case with the iPhone. Symbian copy and paste seems only to work within text input controls, and so is also limited. Memory card support is easily fixed, phone manufacturers just ship with humungous memory like 128GB, not much of a step from a 64GB iPod touch really, technology is available.
The multi-tasking thing though, is a pain in arse on an iPhone, I cannot overstate how annoying it is to have to shut down a running app to read emails or reply to a text."
Wow, you clearly don't have an iPhone, C&P has been cross app since OS 3.0. And, AFAIK is THE smartest C&P in ANY mobile phone, a hell of a lot better than Symbians version anyway.
Regarding Mutli tasking, I really really don't see the need in it, apart from streaming radio or whatever the apps on a 3GS open and close so quick it's not needed IMO. Also messages, if I could reply to a message without leaving the current app (like you can if you jailbreak) and music streaming apps are allowed to run in the background Apple can continue the way they do regarding Multi tasking IMO.
iFanboy wrote:Regarding Mutli tasking, I really really don't see the need in it, apart from streaming radio or whatever the apps on a 3GS open and close so quick it's not needed IMO. Also messages, if I could reply to a message without leaving the current app (like you can if you jailbreak) and music streaming apps are allowed to run in the background Apple can continue the way they do regarding Multi tasking IMO.
I don't have an iPhone, only the 1st gen. original iPod Touch, and the lack of multi-tasking is a total pain. Games take an age to load, and then leaving a game just to change album in the music player before restarting the game is not user-friendly at all; at least my Nokia E90 lets me do two things at the same time, which I much prefer...
Buster, most games now have an iPod music built in, so you can change the music from the app/game.
Sorry about your first gen touch being slow, but I mean that's a 2007 device is it? What were you expecting? My old N95 is showing it's age as well - at least your Touch is still receiving updates! 😉