Nokia continues to lead the mobile handset market in the UK (reports Mobile News). Over the Christmas period, the Finnish company kept it’s share at just over 30%, reclaiming the top spot from Samsung, who dropped back to a 21% share.Third place went to Sony Ericsson.
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Um, so its a shock to you that Apple does not feature in a listing of companies that sell the most mobile phones?
I am sure they will be most disappointed not to have topped a chart that includes such stunners as the Nokia 1200.
Actually, thinking about it, is it really "news" that Nokia sells more handsets than anyone else in the UK, are are we all getting a little bit too obsessed with numbers?
Kev
Why isn't this news? I find it interesting at least. UK is a very important market and Nokia dropped to 2nd spot in Germany, so i don't think this is about getting obsessed with numbers
kevwright wrote:Um, so its a shock to you that Apple does not feature in a listing of companies that sell the most mobile phones?I am sure they will be most disappointed not to have topped a chart that includes such stunners as the Nokia 1200.
Actually, thinking about it, is it really "news" that Nokia sells more handsets than anyone else in the UK, are are we all getting a little bit too obsessed with numbers?
Kev
no surprise to me that apple fan boys would come out on the defensive like usual,
its not app store sold X billion amount of apps so you all dont like listening to numbers
Unregistered wrote:no surprise to me that apple fan boys would come out on the defensive like usual,
its not app store sold X billion amount of apps so you all dont like listening to numbers
Apple fan boys? It was ONE comment.
OK, I am an Apple Fan boy, which by the way is not the insult you think it is 😊
Oh, and it was not me that mentioned Apple first, it was the original news item that seemed to be trying to somehow make it sound like it was some sort of negative that they were not included.
As for not liking listening to these numbers, well I don't really have a dislike of it, just struggle to see the relevance is all.
Kev
Unregistered wrote:Why isn't this news? I find it interesting at least. UK is a very important market and Nokia dropped to 2nd spot in Germany, so i don't think this is about getting obsessed with numbers
I agree that the UK is an important market, just not sure the number of dumb handsets matters that much, unless it is a attempt to make it look like *Symbian* is doing really well when a large percentage of the numbers are likely as not �19.54 handsets like the Nokia 1200.
Kev
Yeah, what is the breakdown of smart phone vs. dumbphone? I'd like to see a chart dealing with smart phone numbers.
whats it matter if it's high end or low end? The numbers show a break down of the big players in the UK marketplace. That's all. Sure Ewan did throw in a dig at the iPhone but he is correct. The iPhone gets so much press in the UK yet it is shown here to be a fairly insignificant device in terms of market share. If these numbers favoured Apple then we would most certainly be hearing a lot more about it.
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kevwright wrote:OK, I am an Apple Fan boy, which by the way is not the insult you think it is 😊
Fan boy is definitely pejorative. Puts me in mind of brainless suckers.
germcevoy wrote:whats it matter if it's high end or low end?
Oh, come on.
You're really going to compare the sales numbers for S40 phones free on contract, the same with high priced smart phones? Really?
I'm just saying that if somebody is going to crow about numbers, be up front about those numbers.
I suspect that in smartphones, RIM took the lead in the UK (and in most of Western Europe). It's only anecdotal, but I was in Italy and Greece last summer visiting family. I must say that I was surprised how many 20-somethings I saw using Blackberries in sidewalk cafes and and a few nightclubs I went to. I did notice a bunch of Nokias, but they were the candy bar T9 type. I also saw a lot of Samsung touch screens and even an iPhone or two.
Jimmy1 wrote:Yeah, what is the breakdown of smart phone vs. dumbphone? I'd like to see a chart dealing with smart phone numbers.
If the Opera icon is there then its not a smartphone!
Unregistered wrote:Oh, come on.You're really going to compare the sales numbers for S40 phones free on contract, the same with high priced smart phones? Really?
I'm just saying that if somebody is going to crow about numbers, be up front about those numbers.
I suspect that in smartphones, RIM took the lead in the UK (and in most of Western Europe). It's only anecdotal, but I was in Italy and Greece last summer visiting family. I must say that I was surprised how many 20-somethings I saw using Blackberries in sidewalk cafes and and a few nightclubs I went to. I did notice a bunch of Nokias, but they were the candy bar T9 type. I also saw a lot of Samsung touch screens and even an iPhone or two.
When the numbers presented bundle all devices into the one pot then yea that's how it will be viewed. Hopefully a more specific breakdown of device types (smartphone, touchscreen whatever. . ) pops up but these numbers show the whole UK market so we can't say 'well so, because all Nokias cost �19.95'.
That's not to say iPhone sucks or whatever. I just don't understand the amount of press it still gets in relation to its market share here in the UK (as shown in these figures). I hope for more numbers
Jimmy1 wrote:Yeah, what is the breakdown of smart phone vs. dumbphone? I'd like to see a chart dealing with smart phone numbers.
There are loads, but most of them are US biased, so Nokia does not even feature in them 😊
Here is a recent one that does include Symbian, but does not break it down to Nokia as such.
Kev
I suspect that in smartphones, RIM took the lead in the UK (and in most of Western Europe).
And you'd be wrong. You can actually look up these figures you know. Gartner, IDC and Canalsys all publish them. Nokia still dominate.
As for the Apple comments, the iPhone gets more mentions in the press than its sales justify. I think that was the point.
kevwright wrote:There are loads, but most of them are US biased, so Nokia does not even feature in them 😊Here is a recent one that does include Symbian, but does not break it down to Nokia as such.
Kev
Interesting set of figures.
All of these breakdowns of sales are quite interesting, but there's one point thats never been defined.
What is the requirements for a phone to be a smartphone? The lines have been continually blurred. Despite its functionality, I can't call a Blackberry a smartphone. Same for the iPhone. They're more like feature phones.
Multi tasking is a central element - on that count only Symbian, WM 6.5 and earlier and Android really count. BB doesn't do multi tasking. The iPhone only does when jailbroken.
The way that WM7 and the iPhone handle it is very much along the same lines as Java is handled on SE phones - the apps are either suspended or have their state saved, they don't actively run in the background.
Actually you are incorrect. The iPhone does multi-task but not 3rd Party Apps.
Try listening to music while writing an email, or surfing the web. Both happen at the same time. Does anyone really think that Apple could not write the OS to multi-task? It is as though Apple developers have no clue how to do it. Last time I looked, many to most are trying to copy Apple, not the other way around.
I can listen to music and surf the web on my old Sony Ericsson W660i
My blackberry multitasks better than any S60 phone I've ever used. I'm not sure how anyone would get the impression that they can't/don't multitask, as that's just absurdly wrong.
Unregistered wrote:Actually you are incorrect. The iPhone does multi-task but not 3rd Party Apps.Try listening to music while writing an email, or surfing the web. Both happen at the same time. Does anyone really think that Apple could not write the OS to multi-task? It is as though Apple developers have no clue how to do it. Last time I looked, many to most are trying to copy Apple, not the other way around.
This is not the problem. Try being in an app (like Trail or EveryTrail 4 miles into a 10 mile trip) and you receive a text. Or using Google Maps and you receive a text or want to read or send an email. You can't reply to it without closing down your app. Or how about having location switched off (I often do because I need to save battery) then you start an app that uses location services, the app detects that location is off and asks if you want to start location. You say yes, it SHUTS DOWN your app and runs the settings app. How ridiculous. That is just so poor I struggle to understand how it is a net benefit to Apple or any phone user.
It's really REALLY annoying when Symbian and other phones have been able to do such a simple thing for years.
I understand jailbroken iPhones can multi-task, and in my opinion the reason that standard iPhones don't multi-taks now is so that Apple can switch the feature on in the future and sell more phones to existing customers.
Unregistered wrote:My blackberry multitasks better than any S60 phone I've ever used. I'm not sure how anyone would get the impression that they can't/don't multitask, as that's just absurdly wrong.
Can you please elaborate on who the BB is "better" in multitasking?