snoFlake wrote:So UK VAT is 17.5% and we're paying GBP429 or Euro518:-France it's 19.6% but we're still paying GBP49 more
Germany it's 19% but we're paying GBP33 more
Italy it's 20% but we're paying GBP41 more
What happened to Euro370 before taxes ie Euro 434.75 with UK VAT or GBP361 odd?
Obviously all the Euro release prices are above this but we really are getting shafted.
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Wrong. I am not paying any of those prices or getting shafted because it is my choice to buy and I choose not to. If you think it is too expensive and still pay up then you have nobody else to blame.
When the price meets my expectations, then I may get one, but until then I am not stupid enough to be ripped off.
People must realise that these early prices are designed to test the market and encourage people into the networks preferred payment plans - contracts.
I can't understand why people are so quick to whinge, just play their game better. It's not hard.
Unregistered wrote:I agree, apart from the camera I am preferring the E7. However, I am going to skip all ^3 devices in favour of ^4, as many non-Nokia handset makers are doing too.
I think no one has seen E7 yet. Pretty sure the leaked Qwerty S^3 device was not it.
Nokia said the N8 was the last n series device running symbian, the leaked device was running symbian so i suppose 2+2 =5 anyway whatever they call it it looks more intresting to me.
Nokia only stated that the N8 will be the only N-series device with Symbian^3. There could easily be a Symbian^4 N-series device according to Anssi Vanjoki himself.
As for the rest of their smartphone portfolio, there will be SEVERAL Symbian^3 phones - E7, C7, X7 etc.
kevmc wrote:I work for Nokia so cannot comment on future plans. However, I can say Nokia is committed to Symbian^3, and of course N8 is not the only product using Symbian^3.
Well, okay, thanks for the outreach, but the first two sentences right there sort of muddies the waters on their own.
It would help if the official line from the company is: buy the N8 and get a Symbian 4 upgrade in (6? 8? months).
Anyway, anyone on these boards that knows anything about Nokia knows that the device to really wait for is the N9/Meego phone. That one *will* be interesting, when it finally comes.
The N8 is to just keep the customers moving up from feature phones and considering iPhones or Android inside the Nokia circle. They likely know they're not going to get Android and iPhone owners to move to Symbian.
The reason for high UK prices are the change of exchange rates. With the rate 120 days a go the UK price in euros would be around 480� and I think the euro was even more expensive before that.
http://www.x-rates.com/d/GBP/EUR/graph120.html
Companies tend to make the adjustments rather slowly, especially if it favors them.
guys on the point of UK VAT dont forget it rises to 20% next year which will push the price up not down.
Dazzy wrote:guys on the point of UK VAT dont forget it rises to 20% next year which will push the price up not down.
The price will fall much more than that 2.5% difference. The price will go down.
You mightnt see much drop before the new year, with maximising profits for christmas and all, so anyone holding off to January could be disappointed.
Just seen curious and possibly optimistic Twitter rumour over at Mobile Review, obviously take it with a pinch of salt (speculative). Anyway a poster (chilko) is reporting a Twitter message saying that Nokia are going to announce S^3 devices will be upgradable to S^4. Tweet here
I do so hope so as it will address one of the thornier topics I'd been worried about and had heard no feedback about at all and an area that Nokia despite generally good support for long term device firmware fixes could be described as weak in with Android and iOS upgrade/support for devices going back some years.
Obviously early speculative days but this could be very encouraging news indeed. Certainly stock analysts seem to have been told some good news recently judging by upgrades and it could be more than just early operator orders for S^3 devices.
Fingers X'd would certainly make me look with much more interest at the forthcoming devices knowing they had an vibrant life beyond 6 months.
snoFlake wrote: with Android and iOS upgrade/support for devices going back some years.
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A witty joke you made there. I am impressed by your abilty with sarcasm.
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Dazzy wrote:You mightnt see much drop before the new year, with maximising profits for christmas and all, so anyone holding off to January could be disappointed.
Read the thread, get a clue.
Jimmy1 wrote:Anyway, anyone on these boards that knows anything about Nokia knows that the device to really wait for is the N9/Meego phone. That one *will* be interesting, when it finally comes.The N8 is to just keep the customers moving up from feature phones and considering iPhones or Android inside the Nokia circle. They likely know they're not going to get Android and iPhone owners to move to Symbian.
That's a sweeping generalisation if ever I heard one. I'm sure there are many visitors here who are far more interested in the N8 than the N9, for a variety of reasons: price, OS, size, weight, monobloc design etc. I agree that the N9 sounds like a very interesting device, but it definitely won't be everyone's idea of their ideal phone...
This might be a generalisation but not as sweeping as you might think.
There are many people who "know Nokia" - I think specifically those dissappointed with the companys recent oferings - who will wait it out.
I sure belong to this bunch. I'm not he least excited about N8 after having experienced N97mini and services Nokia offers, seing N8 performance in videos etc. Of course there will be those who will find N8 interesting. But there is a lot of people who will take N8 under close scrutiny before they'll decide to fork out. And there are those who consider Nokia to lack vision and direction. They'll wait even more. Possibly for Meego, which brings a promise of a fresh start and will not be associated with Nokia/Symbian blunders of the past.
I've had an N97 with Symbian^1 since last year, and only recently has Android and iOS matched the functionality of my phone. The Symbian Foundation was setup to continue to evolve and improve the established Symbian OS. Once the N8 and the rest of Symbian^3 devices come out; it will be catch up for Android and iOS all over again...
As for Meego, I believe it's missunderstood by everyone; I think it is being developed to complement Symbian Smartphones (not replace them). That is why Nokia is investing heavily on QT framework; to bridge mobile devices and computers. Imagine if you will a Netbook, Tablet, MID or even Desktop/Laptop running Meego instead of Windows or Mac OS X? Now that would be a breath of fresh air =).
Unregistered wrote:I've had an N97 with Symbian^1 since last year, and only recently has Android and iOS matched the functionality of my phone. The Symbian Foundation was setup to continue to evolve and improve the established Symbian OS. Once the N8 and the rest of Symbian^3 devices come out; it will be catch up for Android and iOS all over again...As for Meego, I believe it's missunderstood by everyone; I think it is being developed to complement Symbian Smartphones (not replace them). That is why Nokia is investing heavily on QT framework; to bridge mobile devices and computers. Imagine if you will a Netbook, Tablet, MID or even Desktop/Laptop running Meego instead of Windows or Mac OS X? Now that would be a breath of fresh air =).
Personally I am not interested in netbooks or tablet/pad type devices, I have no use for them. I do like something small and portable that I can easily carry and use for the occasional task - like an email or photo, but prefer not to obsess with. I don't want to be spending a lot of time playing with the phone. I feel that would be an enormous waste of time.
Consequently, meego is of no particular interest.
The N9 looks pretty portable to me 😉
Anyways, I find Meego interesting, but somehow I still feel more drawn to see what Symbian^3 and the N8 has to offer. I guess I am equally fascinated about how much can be done at reasonable price.
I'm looking forward to the Nokia N8. hopefully the software on it is sound and not buggy. But from experiences when I first got the Nokia N97, it was dreadful. It's better now mind but we shall see.
So what exactly is preventing all you UK people from buying this phone from an online store in the mainland?
It's not like you are cut off and on your very own planet, just order the thing online from the cheapest source you can find in Europe.
Unregistered wrote:Hmmm, I am stacked up with clubcard vouchers too. I'm almost tempted. http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.209-8479.aspx
OK, bingo - you can unlock a Tesco mobile for �20 before the first 12 months is up (applies to pay as you go too). See about a page and a half up from the bottom: http://www.tesco.com/mobilenetwork/content.aspx?page=36
Which means you can get an unlocked N8 for �309 all in! Nice 😊
Tesco is an MVNO using the O2 network by the way.
Remember, if you're willing to have a contract with some other network, then you can simply see what other premium handsets your network will offer with a contract, then check prices on EBay, ask for the one that will get the most money, then sell it on Ebay and use the money to fund the N8 from Tesco as above, swapping in the SIM from your network of choice. This may not be necessary however in the UK at least, as it seems N8 will be available in various deals on all networks. Nice 😊
ving wrote:I'm looking forward to the Nokia N8. hopefully the software on it is sound and not buggy. But from experiences when I first got the Nokia N97, it was dreadful. It's better now mind but we shall see.
In anticipation of trolls attempting to tell you that you should be worried because the N8 will be woeful like the N96, N97 etc, I can tell you that everyone I know of who has actually used says that it's very stable. Even Eldar Murtazin had no particularly negative comments about the stability of the software.
JayTay wrote:I suspect that the final price when they have some in stock will be higher.
Not possible. Why? Because it's already printed in millions of Tesco catalogues that's why, and it is illegal to sell something for a greater price than advertised.
Proof (see first picture): http://mynokiablog.com/2010/09/09/nokia-n8-found-in-the-tesco-catalogue-for-289-97gbp-no-contract/
I've ordered mine as an upgrade on T-Mobile from the Nokia Store.
Interesting that Microsoft has just announced their rollout of Window Phone 7 for October 11, about a week or so after the N8 is available.
Coincidence? Possible. Or it could be that Redmond has Espoo's N8 in its sights.
I *was* definitely going to buy the N8 at launch. But as I buy all of my kit sim free, I really don't see why I should get screwed again by Nokia being greedy in the UK
The N8 must have been Nokias- Pekka Kallasvous last chance but now will be replaced by Microsoft Business Manager Steve Elop,so more good news at Nokia after finally announcing the N8,there had to be a shake up at Nokia as they company should be more advanced than the position they are in now,but everything as been so slow,so with Intel an some Microsoft Experience in helping Nokia we might now get this Company moving Forwards instead of Backwards