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Printer for 9210i??? = Canon BJC-85 in recommeded

37 replies · 7,899 views · Started 26 March 2003

Can anyone recommend a good quality black and white or even colour printer for the 9210i? It has to be portable and fairly quick.
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i have a portable printer with IR, how can I use that as a 9210i printer?
I understand you have to install the software to the communicator first but the cd that came with the printer is for PC only,anyone know which driver to copy so I can use the printer for my phone also?

[quote="TheSpecialBoy"]I just ordered for me a cannon i75 new portable one. With IR. Will tellyou how it works in one week.

Dragos[/quote]

I look forward to this review, 😉 how much did it cost, is it the best on the market or the best priced one on the market? :roll:

Colour/ or b&W? :roll:

[quote="aj96"]i have a portable printer with IR, how can I use that as a 9210i printer?
I understand you have to install the software to the communicator first but the cd that came with the printer is for PC only,anyone know which driver to copy so I can use the printer for my phone also?[/quote]

There should be a number of extra optionally-installable printer drivers as .SIS files on the CD that came with your phone (or you can probably download them from Nokia). You just install them as you do any other app. You don't mention which printer you have, but you may be able to find a close-ish match amongst those drivers. I've successfully used my 9210 with both my own little Canon BJC-80 & a HP Laserjet 4050N at work that way. I seem to remember that there are there are one or two Postscript-compatible one, & there's also a basic text-only ASCII driver as well, if all else fails. If you still have problems, tell us which printer you have, & maybe someone else here has already got it going & can help you out.

Where do you get this little Canon BJC-80, is it small to carry about in a big pocket? :roll:

[quote="4u2nv"]Is it worth while getting the BJC-85 Canon printer?[/quote]

It's not a bad little printer at all, actually. The BJC-85 is essentially just an update of the BJC-80 with built-in USB support. I think that the print quality's pretty good for a portable printer (although CNET aren't so keen), & the page feeder will hold 30 sheets. It's about the size of a desk cigar box, though, so it's a bit on the big side to be called 'pocketable'. More the sort of thing you could throw into a briefcase, ruckasck or laptop bag. There's the BJC-50 & 55 as well, which are basically the same unit, but smaller, & can handle only single pages at a time (I seem to remember that these are the ones the Nokia driver is actually written for, but it works for the 80-series models as well).

If you're into portable gizmos, & intend to use it with a laptop as well, they also offer an optional NiMH battery, & a scan head, so you can use the printer as a 360dpi colour scanner as well (of course, this latter won't work with your Communicator).

If size is really your main consideration, the Citizen PN60i is about the smallest printer I've ever seen that'll handle A4/letter-sized sheets. There's a 9210 driver available for that as well. That thing's tiny - about half as long again as the 9210, & only a couple of inches deep & high. You could put that in, say, a coat pocket. It'll do colour too, & I can't attest to the print quality or speed. It's not cheap, either.

SiPix do a tiny A6 monochrome thermal printer for PDAs as well, but I don't know if it'll work with any of the 9210 printer drivers. If you fancy that one, test it before you buy.

The bottom line with portable printers is that you'll pay over the odds for the basic printer spec, as the portability raises the price. And a portable printer is not going to be able to handle huge volumes of paper at laser-type speeds. On the other hand, you can take it with you, & either of the Canon printers or the Citizen will definitely work with a 9210 to produce a tiny but usable word processing & spreadsheet system.

Check out the following for general advice:

http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/hardware/printers/0,39001759,20002213-7,00.htm

One other thing to bear in mind is that I haven't shopped for one of these things for a couple of years or so, so it may be that there are newer, groovier models available now. I know that Canon do an i70, & Brother & other companies do portable printers these days as well. However, whether they'll work with a Communicator is an open question...

If you want, I could probably post a list of all the 9210 printer drivers I currently have...[/url]

Thanks for this INVALUBLE advice, I think I'II be going for the BJC-80 with a Scan head, this will be perfect for me, I can't wait to go and buy it now, i've seen them going for about �150'ish with scan head.
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help please, how can i use bjc-55 as my phone's printer? is the driver installed already? :-?

[quote="aj96"]help please, how can i use bjc-55 as my phone's printer? is the driver installed already? :-?[/quote]

Sorry - I forgot to log in for a couple of my above posts as well. 😮ops:

I got a bunch of optional extra printer drivers on the CD-ROM that came with my 9210 (4.13) - I seem to remember that they were just normal .SIS files. I'd guess the same sort of thing came with the 9210i? Try doing a search on the CD for them. Since I've got a pretty big memory card, I have them all installed, & my current list of printer options is as follows:

Canon Bubblejet (BJ mode)
Canon Bubblejet (LQ mode)
Citizen PN60
Epson LQ-860
General
HP Deskjet 340
HP Deskjet 660C
HP Laser Jet 3
HP Laser Jet 4

I use one of the Canon Bubblejet drivers to print via my laptop's IR port ( I can't remember offhand which of the two, but one of them works fine, & the other sends strings of control codes which the printer prints as garbage - try them both & you'll soon see which one works).

The Laserjet drivers seem to produce reasonable output from a LJ 4050N machine as well (unsurprising, since it's presumably just fairly generic HP Postscript).

The 'General' driver is a text-only ASCII driver, or so I seem to remember, the ida being that if all else fails, you can still print text.

In practivce, using your BJC-55 should just be a matter of installing the approriate driver .SIS file to your phone, lining up the printer IR port with that of your communicator, & selecting the correct printer driver from the Word Processor or whichever app you're using. You might have to toggle on the Communcator's IR port as well (I can't remember offhand if it does it automatically or not).

If you still have trouble with it, let me know, & I'll run through it at home myself again, & give you a step-by-step run through &/or dig out the original driver file. 😊

Rather then carry a mobile printer around and the paper you can get a cable to print direct to any printer from greenwich instruments

http://www.greenwichinst.com/Printlinks.html

I had a pn60 it takes about 12 minuets to print a fax page and the ribbons only do about ten pages before needing to be changed and cost a fortune
and you have to feed the pages in one by one

Chris

Yeah but u have to install printer drivers, and if ur on the move or at a office it does seem a bit naff if you ask to use ther printer, I intend to use my printer to print a "release note" from the net, then scan it via the scan function on canon printer to 9210i ready to be faxed- this option is no longer available because that scanner don't work with 9210i! 😞 😞 😞 😞
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This option u recommend is a great ideal if your printing loads and loads of colour etc... pages! 😮 :roll: I think I might go for the top range BJC-85 printer, it's difficult deciding which one to buy out of the Canon range, lot and lots available. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Its the same printer options on my 9210i, see below:

😮 Canon Bubblejet (BJ mode)
Canon Bubblejet (LQ mode)
Citizen PN60
Epson LQ-860
General
HP Deskjet 340
HP Deskjet 660C
HP Laser Jet 3
HP Laser Jet 4

I wasn't aware that the scan head option does not work on 9210i? 😞 😞

This si a great shame :x 😞 😞

[quote="4u2nv"]
I wasn't aware that the scan head option does not work on 9210i? 😞 😞

This si a great shame :x 😞 😞[/quote]

Yup. I'd never even considered the possibility until now, actually.

The Canon Windows driver for the BJC-80 scan mode requires that the printer is on LPT1 (which is annoying for me, as I can't use my USB-printer port adaptor cable for scanning, & have to take my laptop port expander with me if I want to scan on the move). Dunno about the USB-enabled BJC-55/85 drivers, though - maybe they allow USB-based scanning. And similarly, since IR is not usually LPT1, scanning over an IR link is a non-starter for me, even under Windows.

In any case, even if you could send scanning instructions to the Canon via IR, how would you initiate the scan mode from your 9210(i)? You'd need scanner drivers & control software for the 9210, & as far as I know, there's no TWAIN driver software available for Symbian (Am I right about this?). I think that in the case of the Canon machines, it'd also depend on whether the printer scan head could be made to send its output via the printer's IR port in the standard data format. If it could, then I suppose it could be possible for it to just appear in your phone's Inbox as an IR-transferred file (as if it had come from another computer).

Hang on, though. I wonder if it could work with a direct cable connection & suitable Symbian software. I don't see why not, in principle. Whether the actual software exists is another matter, of course.

Are any of the Grand Symbian Gurus on this site able to clarify the above situation regarding Symbian TWAIN drivers? Would it actually be possible to drive a TWAIN scanner from a communicator, at least in theory?

I've loacte dthat symbian headoffice or at least the place they develop all the software, its just off the Marylebone Road, its a right old shabby building with a few security cameras hanging off the front door, with security guards patrolling the outside, I think I might pay them a visit, as there customer service is conveniently located in the "front room" of the building, you would of thought that there offices would of been located in a fancy building! 😮 😮 😮 😮 😮

I'm not bothered about a scanner option anymore, as I'II print directly from the net and fax from a another, actaully I am bothered as this scanning function would of made my life totally convenient. But then again I'm more than happy with the portable print option 😮 😮 😮 :roll: :roll: 😞 😞

hey dusty, i dont have the driver for the bjc55 in my cd, can u send it to me or attach it here? 😃

[quote="aj96"]hey dusty, i dont have the driver for the bjc55 in my cd, can u send it to me or attach it here? 😃[/quote]

I'm not trying to be funny, but are you sure you don't have the Canon BubbleJet drivers already installed & don't know it?

Under Word or Sheet, please just try:

Menu -> File -> Printing -> Print... -> Options -> Printer -> Change

My memory's hazy on the installation of these (I'm getting old 😞 ) & I don't have my CD to hand atm, but the reason I ask is that according to

http://lists.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/9000/2002-January/004979.html

they are supposed to be amongst the pre-installed software (I can't remember now about my phone - it's so long since I've needed to mess about with such things that I tend to forget what I did & didn't install myself). Sorry about the vagueness, but you know how it is: if it works, don't fix it...

If you really don't have them anywhere on your phone, then presumably I really did install them on mine in the past by myself, & so must have them on CD-ROM somewhere, & so should be able to dig them out for you, providing it wouldn't be causing legal problems &/or breaking forum rules. (moderators?)

Anyway, good luck with it, if you still have no joy, post again & let me know. & I'll have a dig through my stuff over the weekend if necessary.

Oh dear. If I had a memory, I'd be er... um... dangerous?!? 😮

hey its there, thanks man that's a great help ill try it out as soon as possible. 😃

[quote="aj96"]hey its there, thanks man that's a great help ill try it out as soon as possible. 😃[/quote]

Cool. Glad to help. As I said above, I found that one of the Canon Bubble Jet drivers causes the printer to produce garbage, but the other one should work fine, so don't worry if your first try doesn't work. Let me know when you get it going.

I've HP Deskjet 990cxi Prfessional series , it has an IR port, but it only prints in B&W :-?

How can print in colors?? :roll:

Ordered my new BJC-85 printer today 😃 should get it by end of week, will provide a full update on how it works 😮 , I can't wait! 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃

[quote="4u2nv"]Ordered my new BJC-85 printer today 😃 should get it by end of week, will provide a full update on how it works 😮 , I can't wait! 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃[/quote]

Please do so...I about to buy one too... 😉

I've just brought one, it prints but not what you want it to! 😞 😞 😞 😞 😞 😞 😞 😞 😞 😞 😞 😞 :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: