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Ogg Vorbis Player Beta for P800

69 replies · 15,140 views · Started 30 April 2003

I was just wondering what kind of playtime you get when using oggplay. Is it just me or is it better then the normal media player? (could be that I run the volume a bit lower)

Another update. I think the version numbering is kinda missleading.. it way more usable then the media player allready.

0.4:

* Bugfix: In V0.3 the volume setting was itialized to zero initially and there was silence until the jog dial was pushed up a few times.
* Bugfix: The support for audio files other than 41Khz stereo is now really working (the fix which went in 0.2 apparently didn't work).
* Bugfix: Some ogg files suddenly stopped playing or did not play at all. This is due to an error in the ogg stream. The player is now more tolerant and continues playing even if it encounters an error.
* Making the GUI sexier: Display small CD/album-icon next to the album name, and a microphone icon next to the artist's name.
* Pause the music at incoming or outgoing telephone call, and resume afterwards! (this one drove me almost crazy...)
* Stuttering of the music when other tasks are active is somewhat reduced now (not perfect).
* PLEASE GIVE ME FEEDBACK IF THERE ARE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE NEW FEATURES

Wollmilchsau,

I just wanted to say thank you. I'm really enjoying this player, can't wait for the FC controls. I now have 40 music tracks which only takes up about 70MB of space on my 128MB DUO.

Keep up the good work man. 😃

Cheers!

I use 64kbps Ogg which equals about 112kbps MP3. When I rip from a CD to Ogg, most of my tracks are around 1.7MB in size, that's how.. 😃

I find this software; http://download.com.com/3000-2140-10196390.html
to be really good and easy when you wan't to rip music from a CD straight to Ogg.

And encode some 3min radio techno crap instead of 8min badass Metal songs. 😉

[quote="Raven"]I use 64kbps Ogg which equals about 112kbps MP3. When I rip from a CD to Ogg, most of my tracks are around 1.7MB in size, that's how.. 😃[/quote]

Most of mine are still 3Mb+
I'll play with winLame some more and see if I can get the sizes down (they're down by 30% already)

chris,
The vbr 1 (or about 64kbs) setting on ogg is prol the only thing to change.. ogg handles the filtering internally from what I understand.. unlike lame mp3 where you can tweak a lot more. I tried some converting to 22050Mhz but the sound quality degraded far to much compared to the gains in compression. The best bet was to convert the stream to mono if things really needed small size.
If you want to compress audio books you can first tweak the wave source with a noise gate that sets the volume to 0 if it drops below a certain level. Correctly done it silences the gaps between two words and gives ogg a good chance to save space.

[quote="spf"]And encode some 3min radio techno crap instead of 8min badass Metal songs. 😉[/quote]

Hmmm, was that directed to me? 😃

I prefer the badass metal songs though! :evil:

i'm using ogg @ 45kbps bitrate, and i think the sound is superb (considering its 45kbps!!).. it sounds like my extremely well customized and encoded mp3's (lame 3.93.1) @ 80-90kbps. I currently have 14 ogg's in my P800 (1-1,5mb each), and i have the 16MB DUO.. i also have Opera, Fuel Manager, Handy Day/Dates/Safe, Tracker 1.01, Full Screen Pictures, OggPlay! 0.4b, and some more apps installed (+ about 50 pics).. and still i have 2075kb left on my internal phone memory 😊

cant wait till i get my 128MB DUO, then i'm gonna use ogg at 64kbps (approx. 112-128kbps mp3 quality, dont need better on a portable device anyway).. i reckon i could get quite a big collection of music in there, + all the apps and games i want..

http://www.geocities.com/p800tools/

changes to 0.5:

- A simple flip-closed mode support has been added. Everything works just like in flip-open mode. In addition the jog dial can be used to select the previous or the next song in the playlist.

- Reclaim the sound device after it was stolen from us, i.e. resume the music after an SMS arrived or an alarm went off etc.

- Tipping on a song will automatically start playing it. No need any more to press STOP and then PLAY.

- Bug fix: Track titles with certain special characters in it would not display correctly.

- The (new) program icon now has the same size as the other program icons. Looks better.

First of all, I should say that this application is fantastic. It has made my P800 100% more useful!

I wanted to report "issues" with 0.5 (which is the first release I have had any problems with):

- It seems that flip closed mode is achieved by running in flip open mode and then closing the flip. I think it would be more normal behaviour to allow the user to run up themselves in flip closed mode. It should also be possible to press the loop back arrow key to jump out of the app.

- Once in flip closed mode... if the phone is called, the application disappears from view. Once the call is complete, the player retakes control of the sound, but is not re-displayed. Unfortunately, it is then impossible to get back to Oggplay in either flip open or closed. I use "Switcher" to terminate OggPlay - but this causes the whole phone to crash - thank you and good night! 😃

My phone is on R1D version of the firmware :cry: . Does anyone else have these issues - I don't want to add more junk mail to Leif's inbox!

Other than that - as I said - what a fantastic application.

@timlips:

Agree with all point:

a.) Player is absolutely great.

b.) I do have the exact same problems.

But with the big improvement from version to version, I am sure, V0.6 will have dealt with most of the issues.

Regards,

Michael

Hi,

has anyone noticed an increase in battery usage from v0.4 to v0.5?

My battery seems to run down faster when using v0.5 of Oggplay compared to v0.4.

Z.

[quote="timlips"]First of all, I should say that this application is fantastic. It has made my P800 100% more useful!

- Once in flip closed mode... if the phone is called, the application disappears from view. Once the call is complete, the player retakes control of the sound, but is not re-displayed. Unfortunately, it is then impossible to get back to Oggplay in either flip open or closed. I use "Switcher" to terminate OggPlay - but this causes the whole phone to crash - thank you and good night! 😃
[/quote]

This can easily be sorted out. Just set OggPlay's hotkey to the "power" button for example, and just press that while in flip-closed mode to bring oggplay back into focus 😊

great app thank you very much

could add a zoom function (zoom out) to make font smaller.

Also could you possibly add the folder option like on the p800s mp3 player, so you can just play an entire album.

Also personally I prefer Artist/album/track rather than the other way around, and no icons showing (looks better without them) or instead of icons have small font saying Artist/album/track (would look nicer)

please note that these are just my observations, I think the app is absolutly fantastic

please keep up the great work

Nigel

sorry and I think the 'note' by each track would be better without it if possible

could the track have a different colour when playing? say blue? (instead of the note/etc icons

that would be nice

[quote="Nigel"]could the track have a different colour when playing? say blue? (instead of the note/etc icons

that would be nice[/quote]

it has that anyway

I mean as the track changes the track name colour changes (subtle) not highlighted

Ps

Ogg is now my favorite P800 app

-Hey, wazzap spf?
-I'm listning to ogg, get off the line!
-eh... what!?
-Ogg vorbis!! now quit yapping!!
-damn puter geek.. 😉*click*
-aaaah.. Pantera.. .

BTW,

No need to go overboard with improvements of GUI (maybe a simple skin would do). The other ogg player was a bit too graphical.

BTW, any chance you could add some kind of visualization?

For those of you lucky enough to have Cool Edit Pro 2, you may not be aware that there is a ogg vorbis filter available that you may find handy:

http://www.vuplayer.com/other.htm

I've been suffering some skipping especially in flip close mode, and even more if I turn on the screen saver so it will be great if this problem will be fixed. Its very irritating.

Accela I found this aswell I turned the phone on and off and its been fine!

Im not sure which app its not getting on with though as it hasnt done it since?