JPZR could you please stop posting the same message twice, it wastes space (as if once wasn't enough).
As for your complaints at me I shall spell it out to you:
"I W A S N O T M A K I N G A N Y C O M P A R I S O N S B E T W E E N A M $ B A S E D S M A R T P H O N E O R A S Y M B I A N B A S E D O N E , I W A S C O M M E N T I N G O N T H E A R G U M E N T S P U T F O R W A R D B Y F A N B O Y S F O R S U P E R I O R I T Y O F O N E O V E R T H E O T H E R ."
What I like about jpzr is that he pisses off most the the MS Smartphone guys as well 😉
Perhaps one day he'll learn to communicate effectively.
Calling people liers when they are telling provable facts is not very sensable.
[quote="SwitchBlade"]JPZR could you please stop posting the same message twice, it wastes space (as if once wasn't enough).
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hey bro, by the freaking way: your avatar says "Afganistan, Iraq, Poland?" - what do you mean by that? I was born in Poland. You wanna imply something here or what up?
I was making a political statement about George Bush's behaviour to invading countries without UN consent and no-one stopping him. Poland, being a reference to Adolf Hitler invading Poland while the rest of the world watched rather than helping.
BTW the arguments are fun, but it might help to step back and chill, and maybe seem a little less aggresive in putting your points across.
Also, damn this stupid forum for deleting some of the spaces in my previous message.
[quote="SwitchBlade"]I was making a political statement about George Bush's behaviour to invading countries without UN consent and no-one stopping him. Poland, being a reference to Adolf Hitler invading Poland while the rest of the world watched rather than helping.[/quote]
The sad thing is that you had to explain that to him :roll:
[quote="TANKERx"][quote="SwitchBlade"]I was making a political statement about George Bush's behaviour to invading countries without UN consent and no-one stopping him. Poland, being a reference to Adolf Hitler invading Poland while the rest of the world watched rather than helping.[/quote]
The sad thing is that you had to explain that to him :roll:[/quote]
yo TankingMan,
but the saddest thing is that it was YOU 2, not jpzr, who associated SYMBIAN with Hitler.
jpzr's here just to show you people, some superior software technology of Microsofty cellphones, but you bring up this ideological sh*t to cellphone topics, what the duck up? It's not right. Shame on U2!
are you here to make some (wrong or not) political statements or to talk cellphones? if you bring ideological shit here in avatars or elsewhere, then I must conclude that you're blind Symbian fanatics...
facet it folks, most of you use windows from ms anyway, it's nothing wrong to use it in cellphones 2...
[quote="Anonymous"]
Calling people liers when they are telling provable facts is not very sensable.[/quote]
Didn't I mention that "Anonymous" users are worse than any pest, let it be SARS, NOKIA or AIDS?
jpzr has doubts to participate in a forum where "Anonymous" uers are allowed and gonna give it a second thought...
...disallow these anonymous sh*t, God damn it!
Ok, so this has to be a wind up right? Because I haven't laughed like this in ages!
TankingMan! LOL!
I bet if I rang up one of those telephone numbers on http://www.jpzr.com, I'd be put through to a Masturbation Health Education Line or maybe even Buckingham Palace?
You really should be on TV, or at least a late night radio phone-in!
Rafe, do we have enough bandwidth so we can stream our own talk show for an hour once a week? We could have a panel of experts (and jpzr) answering questions and solving emotional problmes (like why do I feel the need to support Microsoft all the time).
It's strange Symbian users can acknowledge promblems on the ir platform, but MSoft users have everything 100% perfect.
There hasn't been a 100% perfect Operating System developed. Ever. So who are you trying to kid.
(But please respond in detail to this - it's hilarious, and the onlypoint you;re making is clear to everyone else).
I've just spotted this Computer Weekly article posted last month. It seems to match my own opinions on why Microsoft is struggling in the Smartphone market very closely. I think the following quote from it is very significant.
"The biggest challenge Microsoft has to face is that the major market for smartphones is consumers. Microsoft thinks it understands consumers because they buy home PCs. It does not. Consumers only buy Microsoft because they have little choice."
[quote="Ewan-FreEPOC"]
It's strange Symbian users can acknowledge promblems on the ir platform, but MSoft users have everything 100% perfect.[/quote]
As you can see at ms smartphone forums and newsgroups also users using ms smartphones experience problems, but these are just teething problems - it is just first generation of smartphones (SPV) while symbian phones were on the market many years and users still complain!!!
the problems will be resolved very soon and now, when we know that apart from MiTAC, HTC, Compal, Samsung, also Dell, Motorola and HP will be making and selling MS Smartphones (not to mention many other producers already producing Pocket PC phones), we can say: symbian phones will soon die out like dinosaurs.
Please note: I know also of yet more producers from East Asia who were contacting me with certain issues, but asked me to keep mum, not to betray their names. So number of companies producing MS Smartphones will be soon very impressing and you with your puny Symbian phones will be able to go where you belong: to the trashbin of the cell phone history...
[quote="Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf (aka jpzr)"]
"The puny Symbian phones are already slaughtering themselves and Symbian users' stomachs will be cooked in hell. It will not be long before they, like dinosaurs, are vanquished before us and Microsoft smartphones will be victorious. Microsoft will crush the Symbian phones and they shall be thrown down in the trains. There are no Symbian phones!"[/quote]
Somehow I can't see any hardware manufacturers, as they were trying to think of someone to tell about their secret plans, thinking that it would be a good idea to tell jpzr.
Keep it up fella, you're great!
[quote="thejpzr"][quote="Ewan-FreEPOC"]
It's strange Symbian users can acknowledge promblems on the ir platform, but MSoft users have everything 100% perfect.[/quote]
As you can see at ms smartphone forums and newsgroups also users using ms smartphones experience problems, but these are just teething problems - it is just first generation of smartphones (SPV) while symbian phones were on the market many years and users still complain!!!
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Oh the irony - I was talking about YOU and not the polite well mannered un-blinkered members of the respectable communities
the problems will be resolved very soon and now, when we know that apart from MiTAC, HTC, Compal, Samsung, also Dell, Motorola and HP will be making and selling MS Smartphones (not to mention many other producers already producing Pocket PC phones), we can say: symbian phones will soon die out like dinosaurs.
Oh I wish we had a smiley for a gut laugh. HTC pretty much used Msofts 5 year old reference design, and arguable have lifted components and designs from Sendo. The others are commodity PC manufacturers - and have no real experience in making phones and handsets. I don't see them moving in, even HP withdrew the 928.
Let's face it, all the companies with major experience in phones decided against Microsoft. I wonder why... Oh that's right, it's an evil conspiracy by the Finns to upset one person!
I know also of yet more producers from East Asia who were contacting me with certain issues, but asked me to keep mum, not to betray their names. So number of companies producing MS Smartphones will be soon very impressing and you with your puny Symbian phones will be able to go where you belong: to the trashbin of the cell phone history...
The defence rests. Which companies are left? Market shares measured in tenths of one per cent I guess. Its a business axim that companies of like size work togtherer. Nokia and Ericcson are working with Symbian, Microsoft Phone Dept are working with bucket shop tiny manufacturers. Says it all really.
But please, continue. I haven't read anything this good since "Bill Gates: His Part in My Downfall"
</irony>
A. Both Samsung (nr 3 in the world cell phone vendor) and Motorola (nr 2 in the world cell phone vendor) will be producing MS Smartphones - they are already developing it and first protypes have been shown, so you are TELLING UNTRUTH. Lies. Please apologize for it!
Nope. Samsung have demonstrated a Symbian OS device but only talked about a Pocket PC. Motorola are producing (allegedly) phones using Java, SavaJE, Linux, MS, Symbian, Palm, TR-DOS and Z80a assembler if they thought it would get them a headline and you all fanboy excited into a kleenex.
Tell you what, why not link to a decent market share report rather than pulling numbers out the air. Or answering the points you know you can't without betraying the 30 pieces of silver you appear to have taken.
And where did that quote came from?
Do you think that jpzr is Alistair Campbell in disguise?
"Lies! Everybody is telling lies! Lies! Lies! You're all liars! You liars! Lies! Lies! Apologise now! Lies! You must apologise or the streets will flow with the blood of the unbelievers!"
The irony is that someone is, in defence of Microsoft, accusing people of telling lies.
:roll:
And I thought Comical Ali had been captured by the US marines. LOL! 😉
Comical Ali says, in this direct quote (intercepted by the CIA and passed to us covertly):
"The satan of symbian is nowhere. I can tell you honestly. All the people are using our proud Microsoft Mobile, even when their battery is flat it still works. Nokia? I have never seen one of them. This is a false story. There are no Nokia in London, Paris, or New York . . . the people who say these things are killing themselves at the gates of carphone warehouse. We will send them on their way and show them who is in control."
Edit: Profanities Removed
[quote="GhostDog"]And where did that quote came from?[/quote]
The quote has been from a message that I posted to this thread but bad people removed it. It has no sense to write anything in your crappy forum if my messages are being sometimes partially censored and sometimes totally removed. At microsoft.public.smarpthone newsgroup there is no censorship and people say what they want, also against Microsoft, but here I see that only anti-Microsoft propaganda is allowed.
Rafe Blandford who owns this website should better rethink policy, because now I must conclude that he is the one responsible for irresponsible behavior of some moderators who are censoring my messages here.
No sense to write to this crappy forum and crappy wesite if censorship continues...
Are you sure that you didn't delete your own post after understanding that its a bunch of crap an finaly decided to face reality?
Moderators may remove posts for a variety of reasons. In JPZR's case the majority of the time it is for libellous comments, bad language, nad most of the time being rude.
All of which are against the board policy, which you agreed to abide by when you joined (which also says we can edit posts as required). I'm sure if I posted libellous statements on an MS-Board it would be edited as well.
Usenet is a world away from Moderated Bulletin Boards. perhpas you need to read up on the basics of both?
Also, if you have problems, please EMAIL Rafe as requested in the policy, rather than a public posting.
[quote="GhostDog"]Are you sure that you didn't delete your own post after understanding that its a bunch of crap an finaly decided to face reality?[/quote]
I am sure. And as I said before: there is censorship here, like Soviet Union, so I must rethink participation here.
[quote="From AAS Forum rules"]
Removal, Editing and Moving of Posts
The webmaster, administrator and moderators of this forum have the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic at any time should they see fit.
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Censorship is too strong a word, especially considering the comments I personally had to remove that you made against Nokia and The Register for starters.
If you want to leave, leave. And if you want to throw a massive strop and dlete all your posts before you do (as you did last time) then I'm sure everyone will applaude your attitude.
[quote="Ewan-FreEPOC"][quote="From AAS Forum rules"]
Removal, Editing and Moving of Posts
The webmaster, administrator and moderators of this forum have the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic at any time should they see fit.
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Censorship is too strong a word, especially considering the comments I personally had to remove that you made against Nokia and The Register for starters.
If you want to leave, leave. And if you want to throw a massive strop and dlete all your posts before you do (as you did last time) then I'm sure everyone will applaude your attitude.[/quote]
Ewan-FreEPOC, you again removed my messages from here. Bye bye crappy forum, crappy website and crappy people! I am not interested in you any more.
Looks around, wondering what part of the AAS Forum Policy JPZR disagrees with...
Ewan-FreEPOC: JPZR's final comment has resulted in him being banned until the Senior Admin team can discuss his comments
Oh that was just getting funny too. Shame that he's incapable of understanding LAWS and that libellous comments on websites get the webmaster sued, not the poster. Unlike USENET groups which don't seem to be covered by that law.
Plus I remember the last time JPZR left this forum (when he went from soooo staunchly pro-symbian and utterly anti-m$, to totally pro-M$) and he edited out his posts when he left.
Like I say though, it's a shame to see him banned... I'll stick on the Polish national anthem in order to respectfully remember him.
It's a pity thejpzr is not here anymore - it was so funny to read his comments 😃 I really wonder what he does more: loves M$ or hates Nokia 😃
[quote="Raven"]I wonder what's going on with Samsung though, they seem to be going both ways. Planning to release both a Symbian powered device as well as PPC, there's even a Palm powered device in the pipeline from this manufacturer.. :roll: [/quote]
Samsung is making products for Symbian, MS Smartphone, Pocket PC Phone Edition, and Palm.
Samsung's smartphones globally
Symbian: SGH-D700
MS Smartphone: SPH-I600 + SCH-I600
Pocket PC Phone Edition: SGH-I700 + SPH-I700 + SCH-I700 +SPH-M400
Palm: SPH-I330 + SPH-I500 + SGH-I500 +SPH-M500
[quote="thejpzr"]Samsung is not commited to Symbian. Show me one Samsung phone with Symbian on the market please... or stop telling not-truth.[/quote]
Samsung SGH-D700 slated for release in Q3 2003.
[quote="Ewan-FreEPOC"] Nope. Samsung have demonstrated a Symbian OS device but only talked about a Pocket PC.[/quote]
Talked? Yes. They have already released a Pocket PC Phone Edition smartphone here in the US: SCH-i700 for Verizon Wireless. However, Samsung seemed to underestiamte the huge demand for this phone as it is currently sold out. You cant even find it on eBay.[/b]