9210/9210i with MMS software — Nokia 9210 and 9290

Special 27 Oct 2002, 16:04

i'm still waiting the MMS software.. specially that the MMS service is free og charge till 31/12/2002 in my country 😃
they have 1 month to make it, otherwise i won't think about it 😉

ashby 31 Oct 2002, 11:10

How this app coming along?

Ginzy9210 09 Dec 2002, 14:01

[quote="akn78"]Hello!

Me, my friend and I are thinking to develop a software to the 9210 that implements a MMS function to the 9210. The question is if there is any interest in purchase this kind of software for approximatly 10-20€ ?[/quote]

I think you shall proceed as soon as possible to make the MMS function working in 9210. Thera are many buyers in the market for this product. At least I am ........ 😃

The Godfather 09 Dec 2002, 17:34

Cool...do it!!!!!!!!!!!!! :fadein:

ashby 09 Dec 2002, 17:47

I presume that its harder than it sounds as the specifications for MMS have been arround for a while now and still no one has created a reader

The Godfather 09 Dec 2002, 19:56

Somebody will have to go for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😉 8) :roll:

Guest 05 Feb 2003, 19:59

I have suggested to Psiloc that they add it to their Extended Messaging application.

heres hoping...

Guest 05 Feb 2003, 20:33

That won't work here :-?
because i need GPRS, to send and recieve MMS
Camera & GPRS ( and bluetooth, if possible 😃) in the size of the GPS, will be great 😃

Guest 25 Mar 2003, 14:15

lo, There is already some implementations supporting old SMIL 1.0 and using both WSP or HTTP+ playing gif89a, wab 8 bit mono, mulaw pcm, amr and using dialup with overridden IAPI+ISP+MODEM+PROXY taables. These are all ( 3 are for corporate customers to use for different purposes ).

So u price is so low that u have market, me thinks, if you can support all the 20 common versions of 9210 and 9210i you can sell it to corporate customers, meaning low amount of sales talk and lot of clients sold.

The problems are normally supporting the MMS client with all the time evolving standard ( SMIL is already quite heavy and mixed.multipart isnt for all cases )and big changes like soon obsolete WSP -meaning supporting just HTTP is ok.

And you are quite alone cos both symbian and nokia are already working on versions 8.0 etc. and 6.0 ( netdial etc ) are long forgotten and not fully supported. So get IDA or another dissassembler and solve a lot of problems.

Also high priority is not enough for u processes and u must hack ws_serv level priv. that needs proprietary h files.
If you do it with BIO id it doesnt work, own server is suitable or auto executing exe type daemon. This needs the recogs polish hack and gives low priority for first run, so first restart, so fast that the kernel message handlers doesnt notice the push in global inbox etc.

I think creating MMS client with enterprise level support that the customers demand, because the biggest customers are sales and expert personnel of big companies, is waste of time if you cant get it done in elegant way in couple of months. Now you would have 100k customers, in a year new corporate terminals, new standards and WSP dying from MMS would make your current work obsolete.

It takes only couple days to do a daemon exe that handles the push messages overriding diallup ( BECAUSE U NEED TO HANDLE ALL COST THINGS COS SOME OPERATORS DOESNT SUPPORT ALL MMS BILLING SCHEMES ), it takes only some hours to create the starter recogs thing, and it takes only some hours to create document based basic app to view and list MMS messages, if u use opensource codecs and basic app framework. And smil parsing is just basic XML stack shit so np. But what then 1) only rare operators support MMS 2) MMS is changing 3) because bugfull software versions and async services messing up u messages showing sometimes flashing dialogs, 4) u cant get the ISA overridden so the dialup connection dialogs, 5) if wisely with HTTP with own reconnect some help to messed up servers...

It pays of if you really are hackers and can get it to all 4.XX versions of 9210 and for 9210i and in the market in next months.

Otherwise its just a lost unsupported obsolete piece of application in tucows or something.

PS. The moment the MMS infrastucture gets bigger, and so does the market quite many of the solutions now part of some server side system shall emerge and then u have your 9210 MMS clients. Now no bigger company has interest for small market and big support costs cos half ready support from series 80 os.

PPS. Do you really the the lions chasing the money or Nokia itself wouldn't have made MMS client to 9210 if they would have seen buiz in it. There is by normal distribution about 18 coders daily who invent it and about 5% of them produce something for personal usage, but cos they cant fix the os or hack the rom sited servers they cant make it stable enough for bigger market.

PPPS. And newer terminals and symbian versions have new libraries like the one that replaced netdial.

PPPPS: And the open source idea + debug sources included in beta releases of older sdk:s are now buried because operator pressure and network security issues.

PPPPPS: Doing MMS client for personal use is quite easy, and if someone can find my email, I can reply with some sourcecode to help with the push message handling, executing with uber high priorities and overriding not only IAP but also proxy and global setting still using common sockets etc. These codes could be easily used for scary malware so I dont post it anywhere. ( I used Forum nokia examples, debug sources, 3gpp and wap forum specs, opensource, IDA and mainly C + bit and assembly + as little as symbian idiotically too academic made C++ classes.

Simplicity, the universal partial recursive function, me

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Guest 25 Mar 2003, 14:16