the only thing letting me down is release date q4😞
im already impressed with the motorola
god knows what other phones will appear by then
maybe something better🙄
Nokia launches new enterprise-class Communicator
The register having doubts: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/68/35822.html
what did he mean by" It will hit the market at the end of the year with a strong catalog of binary compatible software.
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anyway i heard ppl say that about the nokia 9210 and it turned out to be a swell phone
i thinke 9500 well be even better
The 9500 runs on Series 80 2.x.The 9200 Series run on Series 80 1.x.There are loads of applications available for Series 80 1.x.Some applications will be compatible and some will need small modifications to work.A similar case was with Series 60 1.x devices(7650,3650 etc) and the 6600,Series 60 2.x device.Some application did work when the 6600 was released and some needed and still need some modification to work.
well thats good news to hear😊
but im falling in love with the motorola
That is your choice.IMO,the 9500 is a better option by far.
hey ghost dog u know a good furom for the motorola?
Don't like the proprietry lock-ins though 😞
What proprietary lock-ins? Do you know something I don't know?
cheers
Martin
Why don't they have a proper keyboard like the revo? So simple, make so much sense. That makes the People at Nokia very ...stupid? Similarly for a touch screen, it a must for such a thing.
The Psion 5mx keyboard is probably the best keyboard any PDA has seen, and the Psion Revo's keyboard was not far behind. Why this legacy has not lived on to later generation Symbian devices is puzzling, in particular in view of the very large professional markets in need of mobile devices suitable for fast typing of text, e.g. journalists, lawyers, doctors, mobile salesagents ...
Well, the Nokia 7700 with a Bluetooth keyboard might still be the way to go.
cheers
Martin
I think Psion hold patents on their keyboard designs which could explain why similar ones have not been produced by other manufacturors. It's why they don't license the design from Psion that confuses me?
It's why they don't license the design from Psion that confuses me?
Exactly!
Or will the continue to think that they can attract masses of mobile professionals with something that has the tactile feel of the very first Sinclair Spectrum...
cheers
Martin
Why do people moan on the one hand that it's big bulky and brick like, and then want a bigger keyboard that will increase the size of the device. I don't like the look of the new keyboard compared to the 9210 one. Hell I don't like the outward styling one bit, they've just tried to make it look more like a "fashionable phone". Who gives a monkeys arse what it looks like, it's got everything I need and I HAVE THE MONEY NOW! SHOW ME THE DEVICE NOKIA, SOD Q4!
and then want a bigger keyboard that will increase the size of the device.
Eerr, are you sure? If anything, a Revo-type keyboard could make it rather smaller...but then again, the key word here is typeability, not size...
Now, this machine's got almost everything I need as well, but I wouldn't invest in a Jag if the steering wheel feels like a Trabant.
Nokia, ye can do better than that!
cheers
Martin
The Revo had a larger footprint than the 9210, although I don't think it was as deep. Anyway I find the current keyboard perfectly usable as long as I'm not typing anything past the realms of 2000 words otherwise I get annoyed mini-touch-typing.
Infosync were not very impressed with the keyboard.Rumours are that keyboard on the 9210 was better.Like I said before,if its not improved in the final release,I'm not buying,heck,the biggest reason for getting a Commi is the keyboard.
@Raven
The 9500 should handle MMC larger than 256 MB!
I had again a chance on Thursday morning to test the new communicatior and now I personally think that I will wait until next year and not buy one of the first releases. The main reason is that the Series 80 inside did not yet work so smoothly and calendar, contacts and bluetooth were crashing a few times. Anything else seem to work quite okay.
The new UI is very nice and I like the idea of having Series 40 in the small display (actually very small 128x128 and the only way to take pictures with) and Series 80 inside. The inside display is 640x200 and could be bigger as well.
WLAN work very smoothly at the Nokia booth. Whenever you need an Internet connection (browser, email) you will be presented with all the possible option. The browser should be Opera, but I could find any indications for this.
I take a picture with the 9500 and transferred it to my 7650 via bluetooth, unfortunately it took 3 tries until I got it 😞
According to Nokia people at the booth, the existing software for the 9210(i) is not working in the 9500 😞
Let's hope that the 9500 really will come out until Christmas this year.
Cheers,
Tilman
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Thanks for info, upponalle. 😊
Since it's only a prototype, I'm not surprised that the firmware isn't rock solid yet, but I am very surprised that existing S80 software won't be compatible. Hopefully it will only require minor tweaks to work with the 9500 though.
The picture quality doesn't look good either, but I rather wish manufacturers would just lose those cr@ppy VGA cams anyway. It's just a waste of space IMO.
Another thing I'm curious about is whether Nokia will allow the firmware (ROM) to be flashed from home (OTA like the P900) with the 9500...
Did you happen to notice if you can use T9 on the phone side this time?
And, what about the speed maneuvering around in the PDA side, was it good? You didn't happen to get any info on the actual processor speed did you? Or the amount of free RAM?
Thanks again.
Originally posted by Raven
Another thing I'm curious about is whether Nokia will allow the firmware (ROM) to be flashed from home (OTA like the P900) with the 9500...Did you happen to notice if you can use T9 on the phone side this time?
And, what about the speed maneuvering around in the PDA side, was it good? You didn't happen to get any info on the actual processor speed did you? Or the amount of free RAM?
Unfortunately, I didn't check the flash ROM possibility, but I'd be surprised if it would work.
T9 I didn't notice, but I will check as well about processor speed and free RAM.
Maneuvering was smoothly and it felt faster than with the 9210(i). One thing that I forgot to mention is the possibility to close any of the application (e.g calendar or contacts) so that they do not use memory unnecessarily.
Cheers,
Tilman
Upponalle, have you seen the pointer key, the "rocker" key? I've heard the rumours about it but nothing concrete.
InfoSync states there is "...the navigational pad which doubles as a mouse cursor that can be called upon when browsing web sites in the Opera browser. " So what is it? Is it anything more than the cursor there already is in 9210 which appears only in the browser?
😕
LAuRA, do mean this pseudo track ball "mouse" on the right side of the keyboard?
The navigation, not only in the web browser, is much easier than with arrow keys of the old communicator.
Cheers,
T9 I didn't notice, but I will check as well about processor speed and free RAM.
SMTP Authentication?
Should of course be there since it is v7s, but just to be sure...
I'm far more excited about this that anything I've seen from Motorola. That phone looks like a clumsy fumble IMO. Nah, this 9500 is going to bring it all home!
All I need now is for Frank Butcher to come back to Eastenders and the world will be as it should.
One thing is certain, that MPx thing does not pose any quandries for me against this baby. That double-hinge thing looks like a right regular pain in the bottom that reminds me of a naff puzzle I was given back in the 80s.
I'm far more excited about this that anything I've seen from Motorola.
Whereas I agree that Motorola is responsible for some of the worst phones in the history of humanity, the A1000, in fact, looks quite OK, doesn't it?
As others have said, the pictures of the 9500 don't do the new phone justice.
For me the 9500 and the Motorola were the stars of 3GSM and being lucky enough toplay with them, I think they are both great phones.
I am also very impressed with the Panasonic Series 60 phone - it is very compact and from what the Panasonic guys were saying (as opposed to anything in print) will weigh in under 80g.
Wirelessly posted (6600+9210+Special owner =9500: Nokia6600/1.0 (3.42.1) SymbianOS/7.0s Series60/2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.0)
Originally posted by Raven
[QUOTE]Originally posted by upponalle
[B]Btw, the 9500 will come with a 128 MB MMC, at least in some countries... 😊
Wow, that's great! But do you know for sure if the 9500 will be able to use higher capacity MMC cards, like 512MB-1G cards?[/b][/quote]
Well i agree with it. If is supposed to replace laptop for mobile users then the most important documents and e.mail with attachment must be taken . 1 Gb is fair enough
Roberto wrote:Hi,Contrary to many others, I think the Nokia 9500 rocks. But a Nokia 9310 could have being launched 8 months ago with half of features of the Nokia 9500, just to keep the users who need to buy new units : GPRS, MMS, Bluetooth, USB, 104 MHz, 8 MB of free RAM, 32 MB of free flash RAM and minor improvements. But the softwares would be compatible with a slow mode running at 52 MHz (needed for games).
Well, let's talk about the future. At least now Nokia says that there will be more Communicators, the Nokia 9500 is just the first one of the line. I support the strategy of frequently releasing new hardware while keeping the same OS and softwares, like PalmOne does.
The Forum Nokia says that Java programs have a max. heap size of 20 MB, so the available RAM of the Nokia 9500 is at least 20 MB ! Very nice. I say at least because other Symbian devices have approx. half the available RAM as max. heap size, like the Nokia 7650 with 1.4 MB of max. heap size compared to approx. 3.0 MB of free RAM. The current Nokia 92xx has approx. 3 to 3.5 MB of free RAM, so it is a huge improvement, now only the sky is the limit for the programmers 😊
I like the new Nokia 9500, it looks more like the Psion Revo with respect to the keyboard (better than the Nokia 92xx keyboard). Also comparing with the Revo, the touch screen/stylus is not so important, IMHO, I rarely use it. The IRDA is also present, unlike the N-Gage. I was not hoping for the VGA camera, Wi-Fi, USB 2.0, stereo sound and 80-90 MB of available flash RAM.
Oh, the price seems to be good, 800 euros, if compared to SX1 (600 euros), P900 (800 euros), etc.
Starting to save money...
Roberto
9500 wrote:Wirelessly posted (6600+9210+Special owner =9500: Nokia6600/1.0 (3.42.1) SymbianOS/7.0s Series60/2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.0)Well i agree with it. If is supposed to replace laptop for mobile users then the most important documents and e.mail with attachment must be taken . 1 Gb is fair enough
It should be not problem to use High capacity MMC in N9300/N9500. 😉
So far I'm using 512Mb MMC in my N9300. :icon14: