Nokia launches new enterprise-class Communicator

hmm so it's not comes with touch screen right ??

nowhere mention touchscreen and it says it is still using Series 80 which not meant to be for touchscreen layout

maybe i'm wrong

Full Nokia 9500 page with more details here.

LAuRA's gonna love this. She has been waiting for new Communicator news for ages!

Hopefully won't be too long until it's in shops, but certainly looks the business.

Personally I'm a bit disappointed with it. It's just an upgrade to the old communicator with the obvious additions made i.e. put in the missing funtionality from the 6600 and add WiFi. I dont see why they could not have brought this out last year? It just feels like it's too little too late.

same thoughts here.
I don't really like the look of it for one thing. Screen resolution is the same as the 9210, too.

I agree with langoda and CyberFred,i expected more,at least a touchscreen and being Series 90 powered.

Originally posted by GhostDog
I agree with langoda and CyberFred,i expected more,at least a touchscreen and being Series 90 powered.

Dissapointed once more by Nokia.
Always confirming one thing. They will never release the perfect device. I expected at least being series 90 with touchscreen in the inside and series 60 outside.

I think it's gorgeous! I like everything about it, except the fact that I can't get it before Q4.

I've always liked the communicator, and would be using one today, if it only had GPRS.

The fact that it doesn't have a touch screen don't bother me much. The full QWERTY makes up for it, with shortcuts to practically anything. It also has a "rocker" key that can be used as a mouse on the screen, so what do you need a touch screen for?

I also like the fact that it uses a slightly improved version of the Series 80 interface, because that means compatibility with all the existing S80 3rd party software.

Love it! 😊

I just heard about the "rocker" key so i love it too 😃

The release date really bothers me!

me 2

anyway since its series 40 outside does that mean u can download 7210 games on it?

and also anyone know the diffrence between it and series 90?

Hi,

Contrary to many others, I think the Nokia 9500 rocks. But a Nokia 9310 could have being launched 8 months ago with half of features of the Nokia 9500, just to keep the users who need to buy new units : GPRS, MMS, Bluetooth, USB, 104 MHz, 8 MB of free RAM, 32 MB of free flash RAM and minor improvements. But the softwares would be compatible with a slow mode running at 52 MHz (needed for games).

Well, let's talk about the future. At least now Nokia says that there will be more Communicators, the Nokia 9500 is just the first one of the line. I support the strategy of frequently releasing new hardware while keeping the same OS and softwares, like PalmOne does.

The Forum Nokia says that Java programs have a max. heap size of 20 MB, so the available RAM of the Nokia 9500 is at least 20 MB ! Very nice. I say at least because other Symbian devices have approx. half the available RAM as max. heap size, like the Nokia 7650 with 1.4 MB of max. heap size compared to approx. 3.0 MB of free RAM. The current Nokia 92xx has approx. 3 to 3.5 MB of free RAM, so it is a huge improvement, now only the sky is the limit for the programmers 😊

I like the new Nokia 9500, it looks more like the Psion Revo with respect to the keyboard (better than the Nokia 92xx keyboard). Also comparing with the Revo, the touch screen/stylus is not so important, IMHO, I rarely use it. The IRDA is also present, unlike the N-Gage. I was not hoping for the VGA camera, Wi-Fi, USB 2.0, stereo sound and 80-90 MB of available flash RAM.

Oh, the price seems to be good, 800 euros, if compared to SX1 (600 euros), P900 (800 euros), etc.

Starting to save money...

Roberto

Originally posted by Roberto
Hi,

Contrary to many others, I think the Nokia 9500 rocks. But a Nokia 9310 could have being launched 8 months ago with half of features of the Nokia 9500
Roberto

i would agree but then sales would be less and also more disappointed nokia users cause a knew phone arrived faster(as usual)

by the way has it been 4 years for the 9210?

Originally posted by Raven
I also like the fact that it uses a slightly improved version of the Series 80 interface, because that means compatibility with all the existing S80 3rd party software.

If this really is the case (and it sounds logical), then that is a bonus. I was sure that all the apps I had would be useless in the new device. Maybe they aren't 😊

I haven't really decided if I love it yet. At first I was slightly disappointed as it looked so much like the old one... But maybe I will start saving the money 😊

No matter what, and no matter the delay, it is an impressive set of features.

My take, many people will prefer the Series 80 user interface since they are used to it, especially if they originally came from GEOS.

It is also good that Series 80 survives, now that a lot of investment in applications, OPL etc has gone into it, though people from Psion 5mx/Revo background might prefer Series 90 if it ever shows up in a Communicator.

I am very curious about the keyboard. Having been used to Psion-keyboards, I found the 9210 keyboard apalling. The 9500 looks much better, a bit like a HP calculator, though not ergonomically shaped keys like the Revo.

cheers
Martin

I really don't get it. Quite apart from the questionable looks (could they not have tried, even just a little bit, to make it look less like a large, grey, plastic brick) it seems bulkier and heavier than a traditional PDA, costs way more, but seems to have no added benefits bar a tiny keyboard - and there are even plenty of PDA's on the market today with those!

The advantage of the smartphone over the PDA has (IMO) always been a combination of built in comms and form factor. Now that the PDA market has (nearly) caught up in terms of comms, what has the 9500 got left to offer?

Technology has moved far ahead of the Communicator series over the last few years, and the 9500's incremental improvements are way short of what's needed to catch up.

IMO the only problem witht he 9500 is that its the topnotch device of today!God knows what will pop up in Q4?

Originally posted by GhostDog
IMO the only problem witht he 9500 is that its the topnotch device of today!God knows what will pop up in Q4?

What makes it the top notch device of today?

What does the 9500 have that, for eample, a Treo 600 with a Wi-Fi card doesn't?

1. EDGE
2. Erm......

For me, Nokia needs to justify the extra cost and massive weight\bulk of the communicator series. A few years ago it was revolutionary and that was justification enough. It was the ONLY alternative to a laptop\IR cell-phone combination.

But now the market is much more competitive and I don't see many people being prepared to carry around such a huge device when far slicker alternatives are available.

I think that having a one device with a FULL QWERTY keyboard,big screen,WLAN,EGDE and Symbian OS on top of that is pretty topnotch for today.

What extra cost are you talking about,it will have the same price as the p800/p900 when they were released.I really don't have a clue how can you make a smaller device that will feature a FULL QWERTY keyboard.

I love it, and I love the fact that they didn't include a touchscreen 😃
Have you read the specs? No symbian phone comes near it, 80mb internal memory ... 640*480 resolution.

It could become a serious multimediamobile device...
Talking about multimedia, the video/audio does seem to be ok, anyone know if it will have stereo output 2?

Well now I've got used to my P900 I'm not sure I would want to go back a communicator type device. However I don't tend to do a lot of typing on the move at the moment.

Anyway Infosync have a good brief preview of the device.

Originally posted by Dazler
640*[b]480 resolution.[/B]

Actually it has the same resolution as the old commie; 640x200

anyone know if it will have stereo output 2?

It doesn't appear to have a stereo headset jack, but it has a com-port (-or whatever it's called) which could be used with a Nokia stereo headset. Another thing is that apparently a stereo Bluetooth headset is due for release later this year, which would let you listen to those MP3s wirelessly. 😊

Btw, here's a video of the device in use: http://cheminots06.free.fr/95000.wmv

Yes it has a pop-port so it will have stereo output.

Originally posted by langdona

Anyway Infosync have a good brief preview of the device.

They are not impressed with the keyboard,IMO the most important factor for geting a Commi.I hope the final release is improved.

Why don't they have a proper keyboard like the revo? So simple, make so much sense. That makes the People at Nokia very ...stupid? Similarly for a touch screen, it a must for such a thing. So obvious!!!! The people at Psion were genius, but they can't be that far smarter then the people at Nokia.

Once again, common sense fail. Not happy, my Revo replacement is not showing up anytime soon. Sure the new nokia has all the bells and whistles, it doesn't provide the very basic requirements for it to be a work horse.

I think that this looks sexy and sounds sexy and is likely to be the only thing that will ever manage to replace my 9210. The timescale is of concern though, especially when it often happens that things get released after a given date.

Nevertheless, I do like the look of this. Nobody ever bought a 9210 because it looked good, so this is going to be a bit of an improvement!

It has looks, power, functionality and so much more (IMHO)!

Go 9500! Go 9500!

Don't like the proprietry lock-ins though 😞

A blast from the past!Nice to see you here again TANKERx.I sure miss your waffles 😮

Back to the subject,Motorola announced the MPx,a possible 9500 competitor: http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20698

Today Motorola announced the MPx - the latest in its line of smartphones. The MPx has one of the most innovative form-factors seen in a mobile device, with dual hinges to allow the device to open both lengthways (as a clamshell phone) and in landscape mode with a wide screen and full QWERTY keyboard.

The MPx is a tri-band GSM device with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth support as well as a large 2.8 inch, 16-bit color display (320x240 pixels). Since it is based on Windows Mobile software, the MPx is compatible with a wide variety of advanced PDA applications and utilities. This also means that the MPx can view and edit Microsoft Office file formats.

The device is also very strong when it comes to multimedia. It supports MMC/SD cards of up to 1GB capacity, has a 1.3 megapixel camera (with flash), Java technology, and video recording. The video recordings can later be sent via e-mail, MMS, Wi-Fi, or Bluetooth.

Motorola hasn't released pricing details yet, but claims that the MPx will be available in the second half of 2004.

Hello everybody

I can only say that the new communicator rocks.
I have been playing with it for awhile here at the 3GSM show
in Cannes and I really cannot wait to get it.

Btw, the 9500 will come with a 128 MB MMC, at least in some countries... 😊

Cheers,

Tilman

Originally posted by upponalle
Btw, the 9500 will come with a 128 MB MMC, at least in some countries... 😊

Wow, that's great! But do you know for sure if the 9500 will be able to use higher capacity MMC cards, like 512MB-1G cards?

I can try to find that out.

Cheers,

Tilman