Hey guys wonder if you could help me out here. Just curious you know, I read a review of the SX1 on www.mobileburn.com and there was this picture with a SD card inside.
My question is, does the SX1 support SD cards?
Can the SX1 support SD?
well actully its an mmc
I think the poster knows that the SX1 supports MMC cards.His question was about SD cards and actually,there is a rumour that the SX1 supports some brands of SD cards.
No. The original poster said that the review has a picture of an SD card with the SX1 (quote: "there was this picture with a SD card inside"😉.
The card in the last picture/page of the review, however, clearly is labeled to be a Lexar Media "MultiMediaCard" as Ismail points out:
http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Page=11&Id=604
Ups,my bad!This is what happens when you go on a orange diet.😮
There are still rumors out there of some SD cards working on the SX1, wish the testers would post there results. Since SD's are faster and becoming cheaper then MMC's, it would be nice to have a choice.
Tach
Hi All,
SX1 for all me know supports only MMC... but I opened my SX1 ( disect ) and the MMC card slot has 9 pins... 7 pins are for MMC 9 pins for SD..
Who knows maybe they will support it....
Well What I can see on the reason why they choose to support MMC only is that Mass electronic with storage capability uses MMC.
I'll still give Thumbs up for SX1.
rv ice
I noticed the pin count also... It would be a nice competative advantage if Siemens would support SD in SX1, not to mention a nice choice for users in countries where is SD is cheaper...
Tach
I agree with you mate! Lets hope it happens!
Rv ice
don'T see the reason why they are not supported.
are there some cents for the licencs for sd's - that are too much for a �650 phone ?!? 😡 😕 😡
i have sd-cards for my video-camera and my loox.
don't want to buy another one - especially when they are minor and need more current than sd's.
so does anyone have an sx1 to test it alrready?
A lot of people have SX1's 😉
mine doesn't support a reference sanddisk 128MB nor a canon 8MB.
haven't tested with later firmware rev's, but i don't think they'll change anything.
bug2 do u mean it fit in but the phone didnt recognize it or it didnt fit?
Guys I spoke to Siemens tech support about this - they say they don't support it but that they have tested a couple of SDs and that they worked with no probs - but they didn't reveal the make
- so I went with MMC in the end Expabsys work striaght out of the box
bluefish wrote:Guys I spoke to Siemens tech support about this - they say they don't support it but that they have tested a couple of SDs and that they worked with no probs - but they didn't reveal the make ..
😱 😕 😕
don't really understand this. different firmware ?
@ Ismail
of course they fit - they are the same. all other devices support both of them. - because of this nobody buys theese old mmc and goes with the better and meanwhile cheaper sd's.
today i was at 3 electronic "mega"-stores. (more than 2000m2 sale-area)
two of them only had one type of 64MB mmc and about 40 different types of sd's from different vendors from 32MB to 512MB. the third also offers a 128MB mmc for a crazy price (about 25% more than the same sd).
the lack of of support for SD's is a MAJOR issue .
if there are some types of supported SD's siemens should tell us.
and they should work on the support for the others in next bios releases.
They are not all the same,most SD cards are thicker then MMC's.Not all other devices support them.Most(Not all) SD card readers support MMC's.None of the MMC only devices support SD.MMC are not old and they come in same capacities as SD, up to 1GB.
Siemens never said that the SX1 does support SD cards so they are not obligated to do anything.
GhostDog wrote: .. they are not obligated to do anything.
of course not ..
but before this phone, i'd never thought that there would be a problem in using sd in a modern device.
mmc stood for the mechanical dimensions of theese cards. and all devices, built since y2k that support mmc do support sd.
so no shop that hasn't heard about this siemens bug, is thinking about selling mmc-cards, because they are of no use anymore - just to support some legacy hardware.
so even in online shops it's hard to get mmc's with more than 128MB - where even 1GB sd are ready for shipping.
even 1.5 years ago, when i bought my dv-cam - the dealer told me not to get theese legacy mmc. 😮
I have to agree with BUG2, there should be no reason why Siemens or even Nokia for that matter, have imposed the MMC card over the SD, when both units 6600 & SX1 have the pin count to support SD. The older SD cards may vary slightly in size, but they all have to comply with the SD card spec.
The fact that a few SD cards work on the SX1, implies that support is prob in firmware... It's just kills me that they would not offer me the choice. I would understand if Siemens doesn't support SD beacuse there is a power consumption issue, but dang... I've been to several retail outlets where there are Flash media shelves, with everything except MMC, SD from several vendors.... It's annoying. Oohh well...
L8tr
bug2 wrote:mmc stood for the mechanical dimensions of theese cards. and all devices, built since y2k that support mmc do support sd.The may seem very much alike, but what you say is not correct.
MMC and SD are different specifications defined by different organizations, but the SD card has been made compatible with MMC (in other words, a device with SD card support can read/write MMCs).
However, an SD card is physically thicker, so that SD cards will not actually fit in an MMC slot. An MMC card will fit an SD card reader, though.
Also, SD cards have more leads/connectors than an MMC to support features on SD that are not in MMC.
MMC details on http://www.mmca.org
SD card details on: http://www.sdcard.org/
what i say is that there are no new devices that support mmc, that doesn't support sd.
sd is the sucsessor of mmc. from a time where digital rights management was the most important thing for the media industry.
so they added support for decryption to mmc an the sd was born - just to stay in front of other media types like the white mem-stick.
but the major improvement for us was the improved power consumption of the sd's.
maybe there is a difference in the dimensions in the white papers of the both types, but in real life there are no connectors where a sd' wouldn't fit in.
the socket of the sx1 has the optimum size for all common sd-cards.
hey geuss what then since the sd is the succeseor of mmc the the new rd-mmc is the succesor of sd
yay
new medias are nice, but the sx1 is a phone for 2004.
it should support medias that are available in 2004 and this is obviously sd.
same as nokia only mmc
heck se have their own memory cards
Its not that obvious to me.I must've missed the ceremony where SD succeeded MMC(What about SMMC).Acording to the latest MMCA specs,MMC will have the highest transfer speeds from all flash memory.
BTW:In my contry MMCs are cheaper the SD.
We are geting off topic.I will probably test a 64MB and a 256MB Sandisk SD with the SX1 this week,if they let me.Stay tuned but don't get your hopes up.
-Edit-
This comparison might be old,but its quite relevant: http://www.davespda.com/hardware/expansion/cfmmcsd.htm
lol ghostdog what do u mean by if they let me?
I don't own an SX1 so I'm going to ask one of my friends in the local Siemens Service Centre to let me test it on one of theirs,if they let me.
loool u make it sound like ur in the mafia 😃
Ghost,
SD transfer speed is anywhere from 2 to 4 times faster then MMC.
Ref. ---> http://www.geocities.com/romidar/mmcvssd.htm
Also since people are betting on SD/MMC prices will continue to drop. I still would like a choice from Siemens...
Ref. --->http://www.globalsources.com/am/article_id/9000000047803/page/showarticle?action=GetArticle
As Bug said this is 2004, beyond me why Siemens would not exploit the speed advantage on there sets, not to mention that newer versions of SD have a lower power consumption rate... Good Luck with the test on SD, let us know what you find out...
Tach