duchski wrote:I thought this was Nokia forum??? Was I wrong?
This is a Symbian forum. The part we are in now is the Nokia 6600 and 6620 section. You are the one that started bringing up non-Nokia handsets - i.e. the SPV C500. From the beginning we've tried (in a polite manner) to bring up alternatives to the 6600/6620, but you seem completely unable to listen to anyone. Your agenda seem to be to blindly bash Nokia and Symbian in an effort to promote MS phones, or simply to justify your own new non-Nokia purchase. What exactly is it that you hope to gain from this narrow-minded rant?
Oh, I see. And what are these improvements in Symbian OS 7.0.0.1?
Support for wireless keyboard? Epress covers as in 6320?
When you try so hard to come off as a person who knows what he's talking about you need to get your facts straight. The correct version of Symbian OS used in newer S60 handsets are simply named 7.0s. And there is no Nokia phone named 6320.
Of course you understand that wireless operators are not charities and that operator's price is a somehow a reflection of the wholesale price paid to the manufaturer?
Not necessarily! Carriers can be subsidised to promote a specific handset. Again, A FAIR PRICE COMPARISON CAN ONLY BE MADE BY COMPARING UNLOCKED PHONES SOLD WORLDWIDE. For your comparison to be fair, we would all need to be living in the USA using the same plan as you on the AT&T network.
I am talking about what is available at this point in time. Not in "near future".
My carrier is testing 3G, as almost any other in the world, but the key world is "testing"... If 3G is widely available in Sweden then I can only imagine how funny Swedish street must look where everybody carries the same phone - Nokia 6320....
Again, 6320??? I'll just assume you have some problems with numbers from now on, and that you really meant the Nokia 6630.
You said you couldn't use the 6630 in your country because you don't have a 3G net, so I tried to explain to you that it also works in the GSM net (GSM 900/1800/1900). So as long as your operator supports either of those networks you can still use all of its features.
These 'couple of grams" represent 25% weight increase when compared to Smartphone. 25% is a significant value, isn't it?
25 grams may be too heavy for you, but I'm in fairly good shape so I'm quite confident I'd be able to handle the "massive" weight increase.
Phones are personal devices and ergonomics is the keyword here. Especially since that improved ergonomics translates also into better features.
? That doesn't make any sense. How would "improved ergonomics" -as you call it, give you a better feature set???
By your own standards It's actually the other way around. You seem to think that the bigger the handset - the worse the ergonomic - the fewer the features. While in the real world, you need a bigger areal to pack in more hardware components - thus making the phone bigger. The 6630 is actually setting a new standard here, previous 3G phones have always been on the larger side. And more often then not, you need a bit of size to comfortably handle something. At least if you are a fully grown male. Like 'Friendly guest' mentioned earlier in this topic; while the 8850 was possibly the best looking phone ever made, it was also too small to be handled in a comfortable manner.
Hold your 6630 in hand and you will see and feel the difference,
I can't, I don't own one, nor do I plan on getting one. You don't own one either so who are you to talk about its ergonomics?!
Let's face it, from the design perspecive Smartphone is a much better product since it packs more in a smaller package and lighter package...(compared to 6600 6620, let's stay focused here)
Yeah, let's stay focused here! Lets not compare the new SPV against the aging 6600. Again, making something smaller doesn't necessarily make it more ergonomic. In many cases on the contrary. I don't care which of the two are the better phone. I don't own either of them, nor do I plan to purchase one.
Then maybe you should start carying a laptop with the 3G card and a nice VOIP application?
Yeah... Right. I'm sure that in your closed little world 25 grams is what makes the difference between a laptop and a phone.
first you spend $500+ on a device and then the manufacturer gets you for another $30-50 so you can have a nice looking phone as opposed to an ugly one... What marketing genius came up with this one?
The manufacturer "gets you"??? Do Nokia put a gun to your head shouting; "buy this xpress-on cover or die!"?
It's just another alternative, a choice. Yet another thing that your precious Microsoft (under)powered phone doesn't offer.
Thanks so much. Why not? Because I know what WinHex is? Oh I got it. For you a business user is that guy in business suit who wants to know how to print color copies on a mono printer...😊))
Yeah, pretty much that guy. I don't know what cave you're hiding in, but in the real world the majority of "business users" don't know, nor care, what WinHex is.
I can't understand why would you include support for MP3/AAC playback and not make the phone stereo??? Why???
Nobody is disagreeing with you there. The 6600 doesn't have stereo sound output, get over it already. Like I've mentioned a dozen times, there are alternatives to the 6600.
Nokia's website proudly states that 6600 plays RA, MP3 and AAC files.
No it doesn't. Nowhere under Phone Features is MP3/AAC playback mentioned.
You seem to know more about Nokia than Nokia itself: 6600 Business Tool It comes straight from the hoarse's mouth...
The 6600 can be used as a business tool, as can the N-Gage etc. Series 80 phones (Communicators) are still the only smartphones they promote as real business devices.
As a matter of fact, from a marketing perspective 6600 is an Olsen Gang type of marketing... Its camera is too low-quality to consider the phone an "imaging phone" as you gracefully put it, no stereo music playback makes it hardly a "multimedia center" phone... What the h... is it then?
It's a phone. Just another one in the growing range of Symbian phones.
Cool. How much is 6320 if I ever wanted to buy one???
You cannot. There is no such thing as a 6320. Concerning the 6630, there is no "Coming soon" label on Nokia's website, so it must be shipping now.
Nokia forgort to implement TODAY screen on S60... I know Sony did but Nokia "chose not to" What a shame
Sony Ericsson didn't either. Yes a today screen is a useful feature indeed. Fortunately you can get it with an add-on.
7710 is not a phone. Who knows what it is... How do you carry it in your pocket?
Like any other phone.
Of course. I should check all the Nokia and Symbian oriented websites for the balanced and objective info. Or maybe I just start by checking the source of all knowledge - Nokia's own website.....
If you are going to argue against Nokia and Symbian's business strategy and products, you NEED to learn more about the companies and products they offer. You have proved again and again that you don't have a clue. A good place to start would be from those links I provided.
I just cannot help but feel love for Nokia and all the marketing geniuses thar are running this Corporation. To the ground.
Only time will tell.
This discussion is obviously going nowhere. I'm getting sick of repeating myself. This will be my last post on this topic. From the very beginning we've tried to reason with you, politely at first - then following the tone you've set for the discussion. Nevertheless you seem completely unable to accept any other point of view. If we stop replying to your posts you will hopefully just go away. Just like any other forum troll does when the attention-well runs dry.
I think I'll end with a quote that seems suitable for this discussion:
"Winning an argument on the internet is like winning a gold medal at the Special Olympics --- even though you're the champ, you're still a retard".