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Why no 44.1 khz stereo .ogg in my nGage

4 replies · 2,379 views · Started 17 February 2005

Bought an nGage (original) a while ago and i'm very pleased with it, with a 512mb MMC it's a complete entertainment center. Only thing dissapointing is the built in mp3-player, the sound is good but it ends there, lousy interface to say the least.

Searched for a new player, found better GUI:s but all sounded crap. just now found out that it's not possible to make a 3rd party plyer that supports 44.1khz stereo so thats the reason.

Heard of .ogg player and the possibility to have great sound and great interface. Downloaded (including ipogg-skinn - very nice) converted some music to 64kbit .ogg and transferred to my phone.

"Warning, cant play 44.1khz stereo, will be convereted to 16khz mono" Whats the deal, thougt I found the perfect application, but no.

In all probability it's not the OggPlay app. As you said:

it's not possible to make a 3rd party plyer that supports 44.1khz stereo

Although, exactly WHY 3rd party apps cannot do this is something that only Nokia would be able to explain.

I thought the limitations only concerned the playback of mp3 files, thereof the big advantage with the ogg-player

capncrunch wrote:Bought an nGage (original) a while ago and i'm very pleased with it, with a 512mb MMC it's a complete entertainment center. Only thing dissapointing is the built in mp3-player, the sound is good but it ends there, lousy interface to say the least.

Searched for a new player, found better GUI:s but all sounded crap. just now found out that it's not possible to make a 3rd party plyer that supports 44.1khz stereo so thats the reason.

Heard of .ogg player and the possibility to have great sound and great interface. Downloaded (including ipogg-skinn - very nice) converted some music to 64kbit .ogg and transferred to my phone.

"Warning, cant play 44.1khz stereo, will be convereted to 16khz mono" Whats the deal, thougt I found the perfect application, but no.

In order for a developer to use some special features of a device (such as the stereo output of N-Gage or even the PPT key of the handsfree) the manufacturer of the phone must release an API which will show the developer how to do it. The API will actually be the bridge between this feature and the software developer. With no API for a specific feature the only way for the developer to use this special future is to program as close to hardware as he can (ASM) but this is extremely difficult for any developer and can cause incompatibility problems with other devices (Assembly optimisations are most of the time specific to a piece of hardware).

In the end, Nokia is to blame for not providing an API for 44.1khz Stereo sound, a feature only accessible by the built in MP3 and Radio Apps. All the phones that have an API for this (like Siemens SX1, Sendo X ,SE P800, SE P900, SE P910i and Nokia 6630) can play Ogg Files using Oggplay at 44.1khz Stereo.

Ok, thanks for the information. I thougt oggplayer was a way around the problem that there were no API for 44.1khz stereo MP3-playback, but it concerns all audioplayback then, not just MP3, too bad. So the only Nokia with 44.1khz Stereo playback with .ogg-format, is the 6630 then?