N70 Questions

1) It depends, but usually yes.

2) Yes (Options -> Mark/Unmark -> Mark all)

3) Yes.

4) Don't know. Depends on Vodafone and how they've built their services (might require some specific software on the phone, too, which you won't get on a non-Vodafone phone, unless Vodafone offers that as a separate download).

5) No support for Outlook categories, I'm afraid. You can use different Outlook folders, though.

Thanks for taking time to reply.

I've used a C500 and C550. The MS o/s really doesn't compare to Symbian for me. The MS o/s is slow and cumbersome in comparison. The UI on Symbian S60 phones is much better, and very time I want something on the phone I don't have to 'hack the registry' to get it.

I had an N70 and hated it compared to my C500. So much so that I sent it back after 6 days. I should point out that this was an Orange Firmware N70, but since you are using a C500 I would guess you are on Orange. I found it slow, badly laid out and the inbuilt Nokia browser is dreadful. You can install Opera but as far as I could tell you couldn't map to Opera from the Home Page, so you had to go into the menu first. Might not annoy you but I found 3 ways of getting to the Nokia browser from the home screen (2 with a single key press) excessive when to get to contacts you had to press down - right - click. The camera was light years ahead although it would have been nice if it took pictures at the same time as the shutter noise (as opposed to about a second later). Battery life was less, but given the size of the battery and the 3G this is to expected. It also lacks the easy customisation of how it looks compared to the C500. It also seems to be under-resourced when compared to the C500 (i.e. lower RAM/RAM/Processor) and consequently was slow in all the apps. To be blunt I was horrendously disappointed with the N70. I am hoping the N80, when released, will be a vast improvement.

Confusing. One of you says it's slower and the other faster!

I have played with one for a few minutes in a store but that wasn't enough to convince me.

I would stick with WM5 if they only produced a 3g smartphone.

The E60 has the features I really want but no camera 😞

I'd like an N70 but to be honest some of the reviews have put me off.

1. I think the N70's build quality is poor and tacky.

2. I am worried about the slooooooow sync stories.

3. I was very impressed with the Voda TV on the N70

4. Not sure if I like the Nokia way of asking if you want to connect all the time. If obvious I do if I click the browser button.

Oh, I'm so confused! I guess that's life.

I would say switching between apps was faster on the N70 but running concurrent apps seems to slow the phone down more. I really want 3G and wanted to try the Orange TV service but will need to wait. Like I say, check the N80, 3MP camera, full N70 feature set, upgraded OS version and WLAN. SHould be out in the next few months.

The differences in our opinions is Dr Who? is comparing an Orange N70 to a C500. I'm comparing a Voda N70 to the C500 and C550. The Orange N70 is awful, simply because Orange have butchered it so much with their horrible Homescreen setup. The Vodafone version is not nearly so bad. I have the active today apps, can change the shortcuts on the main softkeys. I can allocate one quick shortcust also to the media key (although it appears this should take up to four, I can only set one)

To compare the Orange N70, you are not always going to get a favourable review. Chaeck a sim free or lesser branded N70 and the opinions would be much better.

I have been a WM Smartphone User, as well as a Pockpet PC Phone user, last week, I decided to go back to Nokia, and I bought the N70.

Here is my quick summary of what I like and don't about the N70, comparing with the WM devices.

1. N70 is really a phone, with some additional PIM functionalities. It is faster, less resource hungry, and definitely more superior if you are looking for a phone
2. However, if you want something really integrated with our Outlook ... meaning, you want everything in your Outlook to be sync with the phone, N70, or most other phones can't do that for you
3. So far, no WM Smartphone has a good camera, yet
4. Email client on N70 ... not impressive at all, but it's faster though
5. What I don't like about these devices
- The Smartphone doesn't have the functionalities that I need, like the ones available on the Pocket PC Phone Editions
- The Pocket PC Phone Edition doesn't have the numeric keypad (hardware) that I like, so that I can continue using the T-9 predictive Text functionality. I like, and want to be able to operate single handedly
- N70 (Symbian) has no Outlook integration ... it only does sync-ing of Task, Calendar, Contacts and Notes ... no Email.

Max, one of the most important things to me is email. Why do you say the email client on the N70 is poor?

BTW, when I sync to Outlook I never sync my emails so for me that would not be a problem. I do however, set my phone to poll my inbox every 30 mins. I guess I action about 100 emails a day via my phone. A 'delete all' function would be greatly appreciate, something that is missing on the windows smartphone.

Pagemakers, the delete all is a hideous oversight in the WM OS, but you can get 3rd party software to do it. But you already know that, I'm sure. BTW, haven't seen you on Modaco much of late?

Maxclj, did you look at the HTC Wizard - the one with the slide out QWERTY keyboard. Or the latest Palm Treo700W (http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=234596)

N70 email client is much like what I used to remember in Nokia 7610 ... surprised that there has been much improvements. I cannot have different user ID and password for incoming and outgoing mail server, though I can specify different server. In most corporate environment today, the SMTP port is blocked. It does have IMAP, so that's pretty nice. I also find that it cannot download full messages at scheduled intervals ... instead, it will only download when I try to open them.

There are other mail software that works pretty well ... like profimail, but it's like $30!

I checked out the Wizard. Problem with that is, the Qwerty keyboard made it thick, and the camera is just bad. Also, I want a numeric keypad, not a Qwerty. I bought the Gigabyte G-Smart - however, the keypad doesn't come with T-9 English predictive text input. So I sold it after 2 days.

maxclj wrote: I also find that it cannot download full messages at scheduled intervals ... instead, it will only download when I try to open them.

I may be misunderstanding what you mean, but you can can create as many email accounts as necessary and within each account you can set passwords and to check at time intervals. I check my Yahoo account every 30 minutes between the hours of 9am-9pm and download only headers from that account. I have a corporate account that checks every hour between 10am-6pm and downloads a preset(you determine) kb of each message. A third account checks my Lycos account every 30 minutes and is set to download full message and attachments.

I was hard on the eMail client at first as well, but it does a nice job in the end.

As far as being a "phone" I would say that with some third party apps it works quite nicely as PIM device. I am even able to support my corporate IT infrastructure using the MovianVPN client for s60 and Telnet s60-I rebooted some internal servers from my n70 in my seat at the hockey game before-very nice and quite powerful.
SmartProfiles even switches my phone to Silent profile when I enter meetings based on keywords(I preset) that are in my calendar(which was synched with my Corporate Notes calendar via PC Suite) and back to the previous profile when the meeting is over. It also swithes to different profiles at different times of the day-i.e. to the loud profile at 5pm, to the silent profile at midnight, back to the bluetooth profile at 8 am.

It's my mp3 player as well as providing me with streaming internet audio throughout the day via real player(Can you say "JimRome.com"?). There's even a Symella client for PPP downloading of just about anything you can think of. I use it as a modem for my laptop tethering and it still checks my email even if other connections to the internet are taking place.

There is program for anything you may want to do on s60. This is my single device and I easily track my expenses, to-do, calendar items, personal account info and more using third party apps, crap, I even have my resume on my memory card.

The On-board Muvee app is real nice for making cool movie presentations from the nice pics and videos i've taken.

Don't doubt the n70, it can do just about anything a WM can do, and in less picks.

Going forward, Symbian has licensed ActiveSync, which will give everyone what they're looking for.

I'm a harsh critic but the n70 has exceeded my expectations for corporate needs as well as personal.

Oh Yeah, make sure it is un-branded as mentioned above-there is a big difference in home screen.

Oh, thanks for your opinion EinZtein.

Any idea when you will be able to use active sync and will it work the same as WM? IE: connect your phone and it auto-syncs with your local copy of Outlook?

Re the email, can you delete emails of the phone and the server in 1 or 2 clicks? I download about 100 emails a day and when I delete them from my phone I want them off my server as well (as all emails are sent to my PC and copied to my phone).

Pagemakers wrote:Oh, thanks for your opinion EinZtein.

Any idea when you will be able to use active sync and will it work the same as WM? IE: connect your phone and it auto-syncs with your local copy of Outlook?

Re the email, can you delete emails of the phone and the server in 1 or 2 clicks? I download about 100 emails a day and when I delete them from my phone I want them off my server as well (as all emails are sent to my PC and copied to my phone).

ActiveSync was just licensed and it will probably show up in devices in the fall. Not sure if future firmware versions on n70 will support ActiveSync-probably not.

Yes, you can easily mark the email you wish to delete by holding down the pencil key and holding down the directional pad (or you can "Mark All" or invert marked items). Then you simply press the "c" key and you are prompted to "Delete from Phone Only" or "Delete from Phone and Server". If it's only one email to delete then just hit the "c" key.

On my WM5 phone I got somebody to write a small app that deletes the contents of my inbox with 1 click. I guess the same sort of app could be written for the series 60 platform?

Oh and I read the N70 browser was poor and slow.....

The Nokia one is dreadful. Opera was better, although I didn't get to give it a full workout or use it over 3G.

Pagemakers wrote:On my WM5 phone I got somebody to write a small app that deletes the contents of my inbox with 1 click. I guess the same sort of app could be written for the series 60 platform?

Oh and I read the N70 browser was poor and slow.....

I use Opera, which comes free with the phone and includes free updates from Opera's site. I also use NetFront 3.3, both work quite well.

Not included on the Orange firmware, though. One more nail in its coffin.

Does the N70 render HTML email?

Pagemakers wrote:Does the N70 render HTML email?

Jay3gsm wrote:The differences in our opinions is Dr Who? is comparing an Orange N70 to a C500. I'm comparing a Voda N70 to the C500 and C550. The Orange N70 is awful, simply because Orange have butchered it so much with their horrible Homescreen setup. The Vodafone version is not nearly so bad. I have the active today apps, can change the shortcuts on the main softkeys. I can allocate one quick shortcust also to the media key (although it appears this should take up to four, I can only set one)

To compare the Orange N70, you are not always going to get a favourable review. Chaeck a sim free or lesser branded N70 and the opinions would be much better.

My N70 on o2 is fan-f*****g-tastic,no problems with it what so ever,plus i aint got no home screen s**t.My only gripe with it is that they have stuck the pics and vids in the same folder in the gallery,thats the only slow thing thing that happens on mine:icon13:
So my advice is,dont knock the N70 til you've played with an un-branded one!

EinZtein wrote:Sorry, but no the built in client doesn't. Profimail does, but it sucks the life out of your battery.

Will it read HTML email and display it as plain text though?

Pagemakers wrote:Will it read HTML email and display it as plain text though?

Dr, Who? wrote: You can install Opera but as far as I could tell you couldn't map to Opera from the Home Page, so you had to go into the menu first.

I can go to opera in 1 click,just assign opera to the media key above the 'c' button..............simple:tongue:

But I would want that mapped to contacts on the Orange version...............

Dr, Who? wrote:But I would want that mapped to contacts on the Orange version...............

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Dr, Who? wrote:But I would want that mapped to contacts on the Orange version...............

I have the left soft key for contacts,right soft key for profiles,middle of the navigation key for messaging.....simple😎

Dr, Who? wrote:Not included on the Orange firmware, though. One more nail in its coffin.

Crikey mate, your just all doom and gloom.

Opera can be downloaded from www.opera.com and installed for free for all N70 users, so its hardly a loss that it wasn't on the memory card, the version on the memory card has been superseded by Opera 8.5 anyway.

so its hardly a nail in its coffin.

As many people on the forum have stated to you multiple times, if you wanted a N70 that performed properly you should have had it reflashed with generic firmware or not bought it on orange with their screwed up branding.

steve_perry wrote:You realise that even with Orange HomeScreen installed on the N70 that if you press and hold down the centre Navikey the phone will jump straight to contacts (effectively one keypress albeit a long one) so you don't have to highlight the Contacts top Icon followed by a second press to enter Contacts. This will then leave the multimedia key open for other options.

S.

Ah, no. I hadn't appreciated that.