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Unstable Gmail SMTP in Nokia S60v3 ?

18 replies · 11,067 views · Started 07 July 2006

Hello All,

I have two phone N80 and E61. I can read email just fine with google mailboxes that was setup with setting wizard. The problem is now when sending email.

I tried all settings, but it doesn't work more than it did. Tried the following:

smtp.gmail.com
StartTLS -> default port, 465, 587, 25
SSL -> default port, 465, 587, 25

It works on one or two occasion out of 50 tries, this is consistant with both N80 and S60v3 over my wireless broadband and 3G connection.

Can anyone help? Is it Google SMTP that is not stable or phone bug? or Am I missing some configuration?

I was always under the impression that the SMTP settings on the handset had to be for the network you use. e.g. I am on Vodafone, so my SMTP is set to send.vodafone.net

The only Google settings I need are the POP settings, plus my username & password

Jay3gsm wrote:I was always under the impression that the SMTP settings on the handset had to be for the network you use. e.g. I am on Vodafone, so my SMTP is set to send.vodafone.net

Not necessarily. If your mobile phone network operator allows connections to whatever port is used by your email provider's SMTP server, you can use it instead of the one provided by your mobile phone network operator. Not that it matters much though, no matter which SMTP server you use, your email will go through. But that could indeed be a solution to the OP's problem.

mgoodson45 wrote:So does anyone here has successfully used Gmail SMTP? Please share with us?

Don't have my E61 yet so can't tell you but have you tried to use your mobile network operator's SMTP server instead as suggested? That should work fine.

Thanks for the info. You're right, using operator's SMTP server works just fine. I'm a bit surprised as they allow us to send email using other domain (open relay, may be controlled by IP i.e. have to use their 3G/GPRS connection).

The cons of this approach:
1) I have to use GPRS/3G instead of WLAN to retrieve and send email ( no separate setting for sending and retrieving email servers). Otherwise, with WLAN, it'll not allow us to use the SMTP server.

2) No security i.e. plan SMTP and no SSL/TLS/StartTLS

E61 is a powerful phone with access group where I have been using it:
1. When I'm at home/arrive at home, email boxes will switch to my WLAN
2) When I leave home, it'll switch to 3G/GPRS
3) When I arrived at the office, I'll use company WLAN.

So while it's working with operator SMTP, it increase the phone bill and slower too.

THis is not specific to E61, I felt all symbian S60v3 should have the same problem (tested with N80 and E61).

So is it true SMTP Gmail is not realiable or just my problem?

I was trying for the same with our company SMTP/SSL.

It seems like the the E61 resets the protocol to StartTLS and the default port. :frown:

The good news is that I found a weird semi-hack to get this to work (kind of)! 😃

For each Access Point you can set a SMTP in pretty much the same way as for each mailaccount, but the settings are not resetted.

Go to Tools->Settings->Connection->Access point groups->"Your connection group"->Access Points; Here you add the APs that you will be using.

In this view, press Options->SMTP settings; Here enable "Override SMTP serv." and input you SMTP info.

This will force the mailclient to use these settings, only drawback is that this override will be for all mailaccounts.

I use Gmail without problem on my phone -

using pop.googlemail.com

and smtp.googlemail.com

(I did have problem when using "gmail" instead of "googlemail")

In regards to the more general question about SMTP - I have 5 accounts on my e61 not a single one uses the operator relay (which in this case is UK orange).

Since it's just a ditch account for me I just use the default of

Security (ports): ssl/tls

Port: Default

If you want something a bit more secure - I have no idea!

It works now with Gmail, so may be at that particular time when i created this thread, gmail was having problem.

I'm using gmail.com

The only setting I have not been able to test is port 25 since my ISP is blocking it due to the threat of Internetworms. 😞

Can you guys check if you are running the secure SMTPover port 25? I guess trying to set the port to 25 should verify it.

Thanks! 😊

pedantic wrote:Go to Tools->Settings->Connection->Access point groups->"Your connection group"->Access Points; Here you add the APs that you will be using.

In this view, press Options->SMTP settings; Here enable "Override SMTP serv." and input you SMTP info.

This will force the mailclient to use these settings, only drawback is that this override will be for all mailaccounts.

I posted a question about this SMTP overriding for the E70 in another thread,
not noticing this thread. Can anyone confirm that it is working as intended?
Exactly what I need, but I haven't been able to get it working... Just want
to make sure I am the problem... before I spend more time on it...

Kolibri wrote:I posted a question about this SMTP overriding for the E70 in another thread,
not noticing this thread. Can anyone confirm that it is working as intended?
Exactly what I need, but I haven't been able to get it working... Just want
to make sure I am the problem... before I spend more time on it...

Oh, never mind. It was me. I got it working. I think. But I really have a
hard time figuring out when things are sent. There is a lot of logic going
on in there, not all of it matching my head... Sorry for the noise.

The new version 2 of the firmware seems to solve this problem. 😊

After my upgrade and restoring the back-up to my E61, one of my email accounts worked fine with out the "SMTP overriding", but the other one did not.

I deleted the non-working account and re-added it, and now both my e-mail accounts work with SSL and the outgoing servers and without the "AP SMTP overriding"-hack.

Yay Nokia! 😃