I thought I would start a new thread for this so its easy for people to find.
You all know I did my test with the charge discharge cyle and I didnt see any improvement.
Well I have found probably the most important way to extend the battery life with normal use.
Dont get me wrong, the battery is still crap, if a load is put on it i.e. music player, wifi, BT it still drains far too quickly.
Well I did a new test yesterday and after 24 hours I still have full bars in the battery indicator with no charging.
I suggest following the steps below and see what happens.
1, turn the screen brightnes down a notch or 2 (ok screen doesnt look as good but I can live with it).
2, turn screen timout down a few seconds
3, and most important TURN ON SLEEP mode.
I made a dozen text messages and 1 * 3 minute phone cal yesterday and I still have full battery strength after 24 hours, keep in mind I didnt use any other features of the phone but at least I know now that if I need I can make the battery last longer.
I will update this thread when the battery has died.
Anybody who tries this please report in this thread
Cheers
does turning on sleep mode really make that much of a difference?
nish wrote:does turning on sleep mode really make that much of a difference?
well I am amazed, its now 29 hours since my last charge, made a couple of calls and sent about 15 text messages and I am still on full battery strength.
I've had sleep mode on all along.... my previous phone was the sonyericsson S700i and that put it self to sleep after a short time too- so I thought it sensible to keep doing that with my N80... My battery can go 3 days before charging and I use it a lot for texts, pics and watching videos.
So I guess it does make a big difference!
Cash
I think the single most effective way of extending battery life is to enable sleep mode. I previously had "weather forecast" screen saver running but now I let teh N80 shut itself down and go to sleep my battery life has increased significantly. Still "Full" after a day of calls, SMS, GPRS, application installation and general useage.
I am on 34 hours now without recharging, and the battery strength is still showing full 😊
Feeling a little better now about the phone ..
Ah, I always use sleep mode, could explain my "awsome" battery, hehe.
Turning on "Only GSM", does that impove much?
how do you turn on sleep mode, i see stand by mode, i dont see sleep mode
*update* never mind, found it , was already on tho ;/
cbcharlie wrote:how do you turn on sleep mode, i see stand by mode, i dont see sleep mode*update* never mind, found it , was already on tho ;/
Tools > settings > phone > display > sleep mode
You know its in sleep mode becaus after a few minutes and the phone enters sleep mode the little blue light on the fromt of the phone starts to flash
i have had sleep mode on all the time and i find this helps, as well as bluetooth off and wifi off as mentioned.
one important thing i think u may be missing is the use of the task manager.
a few times a day i will hold the menu button to see if i have left anything open in the background, then shut it down.
it is so easy to leave something running thinking u have closed it, especially if u use to the end call button to cancel applications, often it just puts them in the background!
for instance if i scroll down contacts, make a call, once i have ended the call, the contacts is still open in the background if i hold menu!
i hope they solve little things like this in the next firmware, but for now i just check whats running all the time and it can save the battery alot!
Leaving programs open in the background will have little or no impact upon battery life. The OS is designed such that this should not be an issue.
In fact it might prolong it. Starting an application is quite intensive and I would imagien constantly open and closing appls would use more power. I don't have any figures to back that up now.
Rafe wrote:Leaving programs open in the background will have little or no impact upon battery life. The OS is designed such that this should not be an issue.In fact it might prolong it. Starting an application is quite intensive and I would imagien constantly open and closing appls would use more power. I don't have any figures to back that up now.
Interesting bit of Info Rafe
Nothing of this convinces me! The phones been made to be used, with all on one and to take off the greater broken possible of the same ones. The solution, will be, or better technology, little consumer, or greaters and better batterys, without use restrictions.
nj7 wrote:Nothing of this convinces me! The phones been made to be used, with all on one and to take off the greater broken possible of the same ones. The solution, will be, or better technology, little consumer, or greaters and better batterys, without use restrictions.
I agree,
Ultimately the phone was supplied with a battery not suitable for the phone, you wouldn't order a top of the range porshe and expect an engine from a ford escort, because thats exactly what this phone is.
It would be nice to get some feedback from Nokia about this problem, but they are as tight lipped as ever.
Cash wrote:Tools > settings > phone > display > sleep modeYou know its in sleep mode becaus after a few minutes and the phone enters sleep mode the little blue light on the fromt of the phone starts to flash
Hi,
A m8 asked my why the blue light was flashing on my phone... did I have an unread message or a missed call?
When I told him it was 'power saving' we both p*ssed our selves laughing. (We had been drinking quite a lot).
How dumb is using a flashing light to save power? I bet someone at Nokia won an employee of the month badge for that! lol
P.S. I get 2 days out of my battery on average, enable power save mode, and leave bluetooth on all the time.
P.P.S. The battery is rubbish but the poor reception in weak signal areas is unforgivable on the Nokia Flagship handset.
Dez😮
Ok My test is complete, Battery has just died
I managed to get 75 Hours out of the battery with everything switched off, and using it only to accept and make calls and text messages, and the phone in sleep mode.
5 calls made and received (approx 5 minutes in total)
15 text messages sent and received
So I could live with that if I just wanted a phone and nothing else.
So results so far of all my test
First test - After 16 hour recharge/discharge cycle using phone as normal with application but no sleep mode - 18 hours
Second test - After full recharge using phone as just a phone with no apps and sleep mode activated - 75 hours
My final test will be to use the phone normally with apps, but with sleep mode on, I will post results when finished.
Cash, like I said, the single most effective way to extend batery life is to use Sleep mode.
FWIW, I've just had two and a half days use out of the battery (just gone down to two bars, which as we all know means the battery is about to go pup) with two apps running constantly in the background, bluetooth on for two hours each day, 2 application installation and removal and GPRS use for email checking and receiving every hour, as well as IM with Agile Messenger. Think I'm slightly happier now I can clear the two days, though even longer would be nice.
Just came back from holiday, and since my phone is simlocked to vodafone i coudnt use it there.
so it was just lying a home, not doing much. But the battery life was faaantastic! it could last 3 days without the need for recharging.
however recently i installed agile messenger on it. and with that thing running in the background (and abit of chitchat now and then) the phone doenst last a day.
messanger is awesoem though 😊 walk around house with the phone in the pocket, and it'll give you audio and vibra indication when someone's calling you :P nice way to keep in touch. the only sad thing is that the keyboard is abit hard to use.
Mensis wrote:Just came back from holiday, and since my phone is simlocked to vodafone i coudnt use it there.so it was just lying a home, not doing much. But the battery life was faaantastic! it could last 3 days without the need for recharging.
sorry mate but i dont know how u can call 3 days fantastic, especially with no use whatsoever. i used to get about 8 days out of my k750i if i didnt use it. and 4-6days with normal use!
Teece wrote:And remember that the N80 is supposed to have 8 days of standby so 3 days is still poor.
The Nokia guys, have much joke...
how do you shut off the wifi so it only comes on when you need it??
My tips:
1) Always have charger handy in places you spend lots of time:
a. Car if you travel a lot. A few car-kit with pop-connector that function as handsfree and charger at the same time
b. Charger in your desk.
charge when you spend time in these two places and you'll always leave with full battery.
2) Buy additional battery and bring it handy.
It's small and will help you in emergencies.
3) When low in battery (battery level less than full bar), don't use WLAN and GPRS/3G at the same time. Choose either one and disconnect at soon as you don't need it.
I dont' have any issues as I've done the above.
Great posts.... useful information here.
I have been unable to get over twelve hours of battery life from my new E70--either of them!
1) I have tried to turn off my WLAN, but it seems to "reconnect" by itself within a matter of minutes.
2 How do you invoke "Sleep" mode. My Tools | Settings | Phone doesn't have this feature--just General, Standby and Display. I've turned of "Active Standby" and set Power Saver Time Out to it's lowest setting (1 minute).
The third-party software support people claim that their software does not run in the background and take energy when no in use!
So, the search continues...
Thanks again.
Michael
mgoodson45 wrote:My tips:1) Always have charger handy in places you spend lots of time:
a. Car if you travel a lot. A few car-kit with pop-connector that function as handsfree and charger at the same time
b. Charger in your desk.
charge when you spend time in these two places and you'll always leave with full battery.
2) Buy additional battery and bring it handy.
It's small and will help you in emergencies.
3) When low in battery (battery level less than full bar), don't use WLAN and GPRS/3G at the same time. Choose either one and disconnect at soon as you don't need it.
I dont' have any issues as I've done the above.
The issue is that you have to do all this shite to keep going the phone one day.
Yes, I agree with Sebhelyesfarku. What's wrong with this picture?
This is really not acceptable. I have a tired old Motorola RAZR, that goes a week between charges and has been my backup phone during all the problems I've had with the new Nokia E70.
I guess as long as Nokia (and others) can get away selling sexy phones that really don't meet either customer expectations or even their own product specs, they will do so.
As long as we continue to accept that level of product, I guess we get what we ask for.
It's really rather discouraging :frown:
Michael
Rafe wrote:Leaving programs open in the background will have little or no impact upon battery life. The OS is designed such that this should not be an issue.In fact it might prolong it. Starting an application is quite intensive and I would imagien constantly open and closing appls would use more power. I don't have any figures to back that up now.
So long as those apps don't call on anything that draws more power. Any Internet based apps that require a GPRS/3G/WLAN connection will drain a lot more power.
Mensis wrote:Just came back from holiday, and since my phone is simlocked to vodafone i coudnt use it there.
No reason why you can't use it abroad just because it's simlocked. Vodaphone surely have roaming arrangements. Will cost you more of course.
however recently i installed agile messenger on it. and with that thing running in the background (and abit of chitchat now and then) the phone doenst last a day.
Yeah, I find that with the china/HK MS Messneger app. It's not the app that's the problem, it's that the phone is stuck in transmit/receive mode on GPRS or whatever which obviously means it's drawing a hell of a lot more power.
Sebhelyesfarku wrote:The issue is that you have to do all this shite to keep going the phone one day.
If you use it just as a phone you don't have to. However if you use it as a PDA and always-on Internet device, VoIP, etc then yes. It comes down to it being a phone with pretence of being an Internet device.
I'd treat it though as an early adopter device in this field.
deadkenny wrote:
If you use it just as a phone you don't have to.
If I just wanted a phone I wouldn't buy a "multimedia computer" later "internet edition"... 😎
Sebhelyesfarku wrote:If I just wanted a phone I wouldn't buy a "multimedia computer" later "internet edition"... 😎
That's where most manufacturers of such phones will justify the performance. "It's a phone with bonus multimedia features not a multimedia computer with a phone built in"😉
Though with phone companies now trying to position their devices as multimedia/internet computer devices and market themselves as internet companies then yeah you'd expect their products to perform as such.
That said I treat the N80 as an early adopter / prototype. Okay you could say the public shouldn't be sold prototypes, but that's always been the case (remember the brick phones?).
I'm sure there will be newer phones from Nokia that will sort out battery life when using it as an internet / WiFi device. Hopefully they'll also sort out the sluggish operating system too 😉