I've checked, it's still �528 inc vat
UK Availability
Just rang SE UK sales - What a surprise "it's been delayed as it still being network tested - we are being told beginning to middle of Feb".
What is different to our networks in the UK, that it takes so long for them to test the phone?
I wonder why the vodaphone shop told me that the SE rep had stated that it had been PASSED by the UK networks finally ?
If only the Nokia 9210 had been released with bluetooth.
That's all I want, a product that exists that you can make a phone call on without looking like you have just left a SCI FI convention and are still in character !!!
:agrue: 😞
I think the entire release process is tangled up in dependencies
e.g.
* SE waiting for approval from networks for compatibility. For me this is a pain as I am on the Isle of Man and thus not affected by this. The compatibility tests are more likely to be with 'service products' (e.g. java games) than RF etc.
* Companies with grey imports waiting to empty their stocks before bringing out official ones at lower prices
I cannot see how the radio/GSM part of the equation could be wrong, as Ericsson have supplied a lot of the telco gear in the first place, and that Italy (as a major consumer of mobiles) has no problems.
Just spoke to SE UK agian!!! and this time was told:-
Today we have received information that the first shipment will arrive in the UK on the 17th FEB and that your handset will be shipped to you on that day if the information about the delivery date stays firm!!!!!!!
Theres a promise!! if SE go out of business they should go into politics!.
I was also told ( this time ) the reason for the delay was that they can not release the phone SIM free until one of the UK networks approvies it, its not a handset issue the phones are ready to go.
If I dont get my phone by the end of FEB I have decided to give up, I am sick of looking foward to to many dates that have just slipped by, its now been nearly 6 months!
Theres a review in T3 or STUFF cant remember which that says when it was announced nearly a year ago it was the dogs nuts. A lot has happened since then, its still good but with such a delay it has shortened its life and lost out on a huge number of people that would of brought it 6 months ago but not now.
It's funny that SE are now saying 17th Feb. I remember someone in the Forum saying ages ago that he had inside info and that it was going to be 17th Feb. Can we do a search to find out who said that when?
Woo hoo! Thats my birthday! :bday: What a present that would be. I distinctly remember thinking that last year though... doh..
Umm.... just to update you all in the UK...waiting "patiently" 😮 for SE to start shipping the P800....
Spoke to their eShop today and the girl said that they will now be getting them into the warehouse on the 24th feb...they should then be able to send them out to people who've already paid a day or two afterwards....
😉 Yeah ...right SE... I don't think I can wait much longer..... :roll:
This is getting boring.
Come on NOKIA, release something soon that blows this out of the water before it's easily available (May would be my best guess for full network availability based upon the last years fiasco).
I agree with the previous comments regarding Motorola, I think there is 0 chance of a release before late this year, if it actually exists. It looks to me a lot like the Chrystal prototype that they worked on with PSION a few years ago before dumping it.
As I said before, if I EVER see it, I will still probably buy it 😞
I got fed up of waiting and bought it in HK, on hk-mobile.com.
I got it in 24H and for a cheaper price than I would have paid here in France...
Sprotch,
How do you get upgrades ?
Will SE honour international warranty ?
I predict at least 3 major firmware changes during the first 12 months.
If SE will honour fully, then I am very, very tempted, especially compared to �900 UK for an imported unit.
Thanks for the information, very useful.
And the saga continues, 24th FEB delivery date for UK........
This is all getting just a tiny bit sad. The phone has been available to half of the world since Xmas and some of the biggest markets in Europe are still waiting. Why don't they just release it in small numbers to the mail-order guys who are going to sell it SIM free anyway?
They are p1ssing off their biggest customers more and more with each passing day. This phone is not going to sell in massive numbers anyway, only to those who enjoy technology and genuinley need the PDA features. It is certainly true that the last 12 months have diminished the desireability of the P800 and I bet that if Nokia had known they had that long to develop an alternative, they might have given a direct P800-competior a shot.
If they (SE) announce anything exciting at Cebit or any other conference, who among us would wait for them again? Not me, I can tell you, after this I won't even contemplate a new phone until it's in stock!
I am also interested in P800s from HK. If the warranty is worldwide, then I think I might have to do this, as their price of �448 inc shipping is lower than the official (yet to be made available, if ever) SE UK price!!!
You may well have to pay extra to Customs and Excise when the Courier arrives with the package.
Worth checking to see if it is a duty exempt item.
Just thought I'd mention it in case you got a nasty suprise.
Things like this can tip the balance against importing one.
(I'm assuming you live in the UK)
N
Good point, I had totally forgotten about VAT on items outside of the EU. I doubt that a mobile would be duty exempt. It would still be much cheaper than the current price of imports, but would push it just above the official UK price.
I'm still considering it. Alternately does anyone know of a good online retailer of P800's in Sweden?
What you all want to do is......buy from somewhere after you check it out very well, and not get all star eyed, buy the pictures and just give them your card number like it did :x
What if they send it as a gift? Would you still have to pay duty?
Yes, you still pay duty on gifts worth more than �150 (they get you from all angles!)
I know this for a fact. In fact, I know rather a lot about this device but that's another story.
The UK networks are the most incompetent, backward-looking, laggardly cretins in business anywhere in the world.
I am serious; this is the reason the P800 is not qualified on UK networks. They have had devices for qualification before all the other global networks (where is SE headquartered? Hammersmith. Where is O2 headquartered? Hammersmith :roll: ). The processes they go through are frankly ludicrous, involving the first production models that come through ON THE NETWORK but in the pockets of senior technicians and interested execs and used as bragging objects. No work is done on them. "We need a couple more" they say ... and it takes time. They come through. The guys pick the software apart and say they don't like the way MMS works (for example) as it's not what they're used to on other devices. Or they don't like the browser. Or something. "Can you change it please?" they ask, to which SE reply "Sod off. It's OK." And they argue. And then the device needs a couple of Master Resets, or comes up with the animated "I've crashed!" icon ... and the network complains again. "Fix it or we won't release it." To which SE reply, "Uh guys, it's a version 1.0 ... ALL 1.0 products crash. Even your 'network grade' apps." And then they argue the toss for a few weeks.
And this is before the politics and the corruption in some of the UK networks all of which delays introduction of products internally, the introduction of the wrond products, and ... the delayed intro of complex handsets.
Some of the stuff that goes on in the UK you would not believe. One day I'm going to spill.
Whoa, Heavy stuff there Harald, but your probably right. Inside info tells me that it's just red tape stopping the phone being released in the UK. If majority of the networks around the world have approved it for for them why not uk?
Episode II : The Orange is the only fruit
I have been reliably been informed
that it should be out by the end
the month on Orange, it is
already featured in this
months Orange Mag.
:black:
oh right... Now they're saying the END of the month. Deja vu anyone?
Expansys is still say 14 working days for delivery. Anyone remeber it saying 30 working days for delivery for about a month back last August?
We should sent the Expansys Webmanager a calendar, as it still says we are expecting them at the end of January. I think they just can't be arsed to change the web page anymore.
:P I got mine, what are you guys waiting for? :P
Thought you'd lost your money?
Ok firstly, it cost me a bomb, but I have no regrets, this is a brilliant toy and I am very happy with it.
I bought it off E-Bay, from SK Worldwide in HongKong. I believe he can get plenty of them.
It cost me �499.00 + �30 delivery etc. It arrive within 4 days of payment clearing. However it was hit with �74.54 duties which I had to pay (what can you do, its within your grasp, you just gotta pay da man).
Came with everything and a UK charger, and dammit, its the dogs danglies.
The guys email (I doubt he would mind if it brings him some business) is [email protected] his Ebay name is SKON (but just search for P800), he communicated well for all my questions, sent a tracking number for the order. I complained about the duties, but its out of his hands. As said above, anything over �150 gets hit even if its a gift (which is what it was marked as).
I definately recommend you also get a Brando screen protector (another HongKong site supplied - but Expansys have them too).
If you buy from him, tell him I sent ya, maybe he will send me a present 😃
t0me,
That appears to be a good price compared to other import versions.
I am surprised at the duty.
I thought that it would be more than �75, also why no VAT ?
Well done !
As I said earlier, it will take a while for full availability, it does appear not to be SE's fault, so maybe I should be emailing Vodaphone etc complaining.
At least we should have firmware release 'I' by then 😞
The only duty payable on a mobile phone would be VAT (17.5%) which is about �85 on a �500 phone.
[quote="bigrob"]Thought you'd lost your money?[/quote]
So did I!, got it today 😃
I may be wrong but i heard that SE are putting a video recorder on the p800 and adding a couple of small features as of the competition, -that's why it's taking so long.
L